StarBoy Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gasser90 said: Sad sad state of affairs at lynn and pboro, you can be sure that they will be the bottom two teams in the league and at this stage I would say it’s highly unlikely they will both come to the tapes next year, British speedway is slowly dying. Such a shame for the sport in east anglia I think you'll definitely see Lynn at tapes as Buster makes a small fortune as stadium owner and renting it out for Bangers/Stocks. Whether they'll be in the premiership or not is another question... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKM91 Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Picko obviously coming straight back in for Fred then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 What a shambles but no surprise as Chapman couldn’t run a drinks party in a brewery! I feel sorry for loyal Star fans who deserve better than this incompetent clown. He was useless at the BSPA together with the equally stupid Mr Godfrey and clearly at KL and Pboro…what a depressing state of affairs these clubs are now in, all down to Chapmans disastrous mismanagement. The sooner Chapman gets out of speedway the better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, 4BM said: Seems to be if you’re riding OK for Grudziadz they give you the ‘freedom’ to ride where you want, if you’re not scoring well then you’re grounded and it’s Polska only be that for training or meetings. If they just had this sort of rule for the Poles only you’d sort of have to accept us as PZM/Ekstraliga give out the agreement to ride abroad, but should have no control on the foreigners. Suppose it just shows they pay the £££ they run the show Unfortunately they’ve found some form and Leszno have been ravaged by injury so looks like they will survive relegation. I was shocked Jakobson had an Ekstraliga ride in the first place, never rated him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 25 minutes ago, Speedtiger said: What a shambles but no surprise as Chapman couldn’t run a drinks party in a brewery! I feel sorry for loyal Star fans who deserve better than this incompetent clown. He was useless at the BSPA together with the equally stupid Mr Godfrey and clearly at KL and Pboro…what a depressing state of affairs these clubs are now in, all down to Chapmans disastrous mismanagement. The sooner Chapman gets out of speedway the better. If it hadn't been for Buster saving the club back in the 90's, we might not have had speedway in Norfolk since that time. So we've got a lot to thank him for. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, Speedtiger said: What a shambles but no surprise as Chapman couldn’t run a drinks party in a brewery! I feel sorry for loyal Star fans who deserve better than this incompetent clown. He was useless at the BSPA together with the equally stupid Mr Godfrey and clearly at KL and Pboro…what a depressing state of affairs these clubs are now in, all down to Chapmans disastrous mismanagement. The sooner Chapman gets out of speedway the better. Peterborough yes but King's Lynn's mess is down to Alex and Dale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, Noodles said: Peterborough yes but King's Lynn's mess is down to Alex and Dale. Chapman owns the clubs and he is responsible full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bagpuss Posted June 15, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Speedtiger said: What a shambles but no surprise as Chapman couldn’t run a drinks party in a brewery! I feel sorry for loyal Star fans who deserve better than this incompetent clown. He was useless at the BSPA together with the equally stupid Mr Godfrey and clearly at KL and Pboro…what a depressing state of affairs these clubs are now in, all down to Chapmans disastrous mismanagement. The sooner Chapman gets out of speedway the better. With all due respect you are clueless. Mr Chapman isn't particularly my cup of tea and I fully understand why you and others dislike him, however he essentially saved the club in 1992, 1996, 2003 and again in 2023. The club could have been long extinct but for him. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 49 minutes ago, Mimmo said: If it hadn't been for Buster saving the club back in the 90's, we might not have had speedway in Norfolk since that time. So we've got a lot to thank him for. That’s all well and good but that doesn’t excuse Chapman for his total incompetence in overseeing the demise of speedway during his time at BSPA and with what is happening at KL and Boro now! He’s is utterly useless and true fans will realise that… they are not stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Speedtiger said: That’s all well and good but that doesn’t excuse Chapman for his total incompetence in overseeing the demise of speedway during his time at BSPA and with what is happening at KL and Boro now! He’s is utterly useless and true fans will realise that… they are not stupid. So you think Alex Brady left King's Lynn because of Keith Chapman? Like I said you are clueless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: So you think Alex Brady left King's Lynn because of Keith Chapman? Like I said you are clueless. I didn’t suggest that at all. I understand Brady left for “personal” reasons. What I do say is Chapman owns KL and as such he can not avoid his responsibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Gasser90 said: Sad sad state of affairs at lynn and pboro, you can be sure that they will be the bottom two teams in the league and at this stage I would say it’s highly unlikely they will both come to the tapes next year, British speedway is slowly dying. Such a shame for the sport in east anglia I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzAssStar Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Gasser90 said: British speedway is slowly dying. Such a shame for the sport in east anglia Slowly dying ..... yes absolutely, but not just over the last 5 - 10 years as many now seem to think ! Take a look at how many teams were competing in DIv 1 and 2 around 30 - 40 years ago ....... British Speeday had its "time in the sun" during the 70's - 90's and has unfortunately been in a state of decline ever since, soon to be nothing other than an amateur sport in UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 minute ago, DizzAssStar said: Slowly dying ..... yes absolutely, but not just over the last 5 - 10 years as many now seem to think ! Take a look at how many teams were competing in DIv 1 and 2 around 30 - 40 years ago ....... British Speeday had its "time in the sun" during the 70's - 90's and has unfortunately been in a state of decline ever since, soon to be nothing other than an amateur sport in UK. Absolutely this. The demise I'd exactly pinpoint to when SkySports came on board. No blame at all is to be put on them by the way, it was the promoters just totally mismanaged the whole thing, over paying rider's, not securing their own stadia etc. Zero future planning went in to the sport to which it really should have hit it's peak. Current 80's standard stadia conditions, mismanagement etc the sport remains as a £10-£15 sport but due to economics the price has to be higher. British Speedway is now in a rock n' a hard place in balancing VFM & unfortunately, it's no longer in the favour of the fan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Absolutely this. The demise I'd exactly pinpoint to when SkySports came on board. No blame at all is to be put on them by the way, it was the promoters just totally mismanaged the whole thing, over paying rider's, not securing their own stadia etc. Zero future planning went in to the sport to which it really should have hit it's peak. Current 80's standard stadia conditions, mismanagement etc the sport remains as a £10-£15 sport but due to economics the price has to be higher. British Speedway is now in a rock n' a hard place in balancing VFM & unfortunately, it's no longer in the favour of the fan. The demise started long before Sky came on board. The top flight has been in trouble since the mid/late 80s. Sky was the golden egg that should have sparked a new dawn but was completely mis managed by the powers that be. The demise has accelerated over the last 20 years but can be traced way back to the 80s 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: The demise started long before Sky came on board. The top flight has been in trouble since the mid/late 80s. Sky was the golden egg that should have sparked a new dawn but was completely mis managed by the powers that be. The demise has accelerated over the last 20 years but can be traced way back to the 80s Totally agree thinking back to the 80s points limit was 50or 52 ? now the limit isn’t even a win 46 that’s how much speedway year on year has been run into the ground - sky sports money was wasted and what I see as what could have been the great relaunch was after the covid season that was the last chance saloon and what they do carry on as before . Buster might have his faults but as Bagpuss has said he saved KL not just the once but several times if he wasn’t around now after Brady walked out what would happen now ?? Edited June 15, 2023 by Haza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W9 Lion Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: The demise started long before Sky came on board. The top flight has been in trouble since the mid/late 80s. Sky was the golden egg that should have sparked a new dawn but was completely mis managed by the powers that be. The demise has accelerated over the last 20 years but can be traced way back to the 80s I didnt start watching speedway until 1984, which is bad timing for a kid from Leicester. I dont think I have ever seen the Golden Era or even good times. Certain events boosted clubs in the short term, Henka signing for the Starts in late 91 resulted in me doing the A47 dash on Saturday nights in the Summer for a few seasons. Leicester coming back in 2011 was another event that gave the sport in the midlands a short term boost. I was up at Workington last weekend and their stadium set up is the future in the UK. Brownfield site, out of town centre. Limited perm facilities but enought to make it an enjoyable afternoon. Reminded me a a smaller scale Swedish stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Speedtiger said: Chapman owns the clubs and he is responsible full stop. somone should do there home work maybe read up . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Speedtiger said: That’s all well and good but that doesn’t excuse Chapman for his total incompetence in overseeing the demise of speedway during his time at BSPA and with what is happening at KL and Boro now! He’s is utterly useless and true fans will realise that… they are not stupid. you know he saved 3 club right not including kings lynn ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 After loosing Fred today if anyone can sort the club it will be Buster . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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