Kings Lynn 2023

[Haza]

Just now, Noodles said:

But what about 2019, 2022 and 2023 so far?

Well Pboro certainly been more successful in the top league than Kings Lynn have with 0 titles to there name - personally I think both clubs need a new start under different promotions-Buster owning both clubs has done neither clubs any favours both have suffered at the others expense and even the rivalry has gone out of it now . Both clubs could be so good for each other . 

[tellboy]

1 hour ago, mikebv said:

When I used to go regularly to watch the Aces from 88 to around 2005, they were pretty crap for virtually everyone of those years..

Yet crowds never really changed much, given there was never a huge starting number..

And most tracks seem to have a similar pattern..

Nowadays I suppose you have the added cost implications and many more meetings nowadays being "a bit made up" which may put a few more off..

We haven't been successful for years,but you don't have to be successful you just need to be competitive.That to me is a difference.Don't get me wrong i would love to win things,but my first priority is for us to compete with other teams not just to roll over and have our bellies tickled.

I would have thought the cost implications are offset a bit by there being a lot less meetings in a season.

[Bald Bloke]

1 hour ago, Haza said:

Well Pboro certainly been more successful in the top league than Kings Lynn have with 0 titles to there name - personally I think both clubs need a new start under different promotions-Buster owning both clubs has done neither clubs any favours both have suffered at the others expense and even the rivalry has gone out of it now . Both clubs could be so good for each other . 

 It did the Panthers/Prem a favour at the time i think.. Nothing whatsoever for Lynn though. When it was announced i thought oh FFS, but i understood why Buster did it at the time. Still felt like a kick in the teeth for us loyal Lynn fans, who have been turning up week in week out for god knows how many years, well it did for me anyway.. 

What gets under my skin is the Panthers fans moaning after their 1st meeting. Their team looked better than ours !! I get they haven't started well (Take a bow NP),  before they start. Guess what neither has Busters " beloved" Stars... Before i get pounced on, they have every right to complain after the start they have made..

 Being there every week( AFA) in 21 when the Panthers won the league was sole destroying for me and i'm guessing many more.  We won our only meeting late on it the season that year, and i remember Allit jumping up and down on the track, fists clenched, while the riders walked  the through the crowd  getting pats on the back and fist bumped. Almost the same pic we saw when he won the league with his other club.

I wonder what Panthers fans would think if it was the other way around?? Anyway it looks like Lynn's faithful may have had enough, looking at the unusually  crap attendances  at this stage so far. And before i get the "well if you still go then you are the problem" brigade start. If the die hards didn't then there would be no speedway, and do true fans really want that...

Time for Buster and Co to pull something out of that hat.. And fast!

 

 

Edited May 5, 2023 by Bald Bloke

[mikebv]

I get the frustrations of following "your team" but, in all honesty, I think the promoters see putting out "any" Speedway as their main remit...

Hence the operating model they follow..

The relevance of your team winning or losing is very small to the overall UK Speedway plan..

Keeping the sport going and getting to the end of the season is no mean achievement for a fair amount of them given the state the sport is in in the UK I would suggest..

For the majority of followers nowadays, I would suggest the racing is the key driver for them to attend, rather than the match outcome, hence they dont get too concerned about  performances, but are content to accept that they have a meeting to attend again the next time..

Hence a winning or losing season often doesnt generate massive differences in crowd levels at most tracks..

As for "regime change"? Well not attending at all will easily facilitate that, but with the sport losing tracks so quickly, and no real financial rewards available, who would put their money into it to replace the current promoters? 

At least they are prepared to fund it...

[bigcatdiary]

3 hours ago, mikebv said:

The reality is that for most tracks, being 'successful" doesn't bring in several hundred more every week..

Yet being "unsuccessful" doesn't lose you several hundred every week either..

But being "unsuccessful" can be better financially...

As we have seen, title winners can end up going bust....

Being competitive at home is the mantra, with happiness truly being 46-44, meaning a close score line to maintain interest and a victory to celebrate, and, if you take a few 60 - 30's away then so be it...

Your own fans are not likely to be there anyway...

I have little or no knowledge about other tracks attendances dependent on whether they are competitive or not but Peterborough’s are, it’s something I mentioned to Buster when he took over, poor results will affect Peterborough attendances, the football attendances are similarly affected at the Posh.

[Bagpuss]

3 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said:

Didn't they win the league handsomely in 2021? 

They did but it was bottom in 2019 and 2022 with the possibility of the same this year too. 

[mikebv]

1 hour ago, bigcatdiary said:

I have little or no knowledge about other tracks attendances dependent on whether they are competitive or not but Peterborough’s are, it’s something I mentioned to Buster when he took over, poor results will affect Peterborough attendances, the football attendances are similarly affected at the Posh.

Get that,

But if you are spending more to generate "not enough" to pay for "the more", then you would be better off budgeting for keeping your costs as low as you can..

When Doyle, Emil, Bewley, Holder, Fricke, (and Laguta) visit, then crowds will at least be two or three hundred up at each match as those who have dropped off turn up, meaning another £30k or so from the four matches against the teams with GP opposition ..

Add in the derbies that Peterborough and KL have together which bring decent (ish), away followings and you will have some ok return without breaking the bank in points money...

Given the state of Peterborough's future I understand reticence to spend too much on either of the businesses...

[scoobydoo]

1 hour ago, bigcatdiary said:

I have little or no knowledge about other tracks attendances dependent on whether they are competitive or not but Peterborough’s are, it’s something I mentioned to Buster when he took over, poor results will affect Peterborough attendances, the football attendances are similarly affected at the Posh.

Be interesting to see what level of attendance turns up at Peterborough on Monday against Ipswich,  Doyle and Emil there again same as opening night but Peterborough have a "GP" rider guesting for Pedersen this time ,  then theres the fact its being streamed by BSN and to cap it all the weather as it stands doesn't look good for the meeting at all so if its doubtful but then is run will more just watch the BSN coverage .

Theres always the chance of an early call off for the forecast anyway

[kelvinht]

6 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

 It did the Panthers/Prem a favour at the time i think.. Nothing whatsoever for Lynn though. When it was announced i thought oh FFS, but i understood why Buster did it at the time. Still felt like a kick in the teeth for us loyal Lynn fans, who have been turning up week in week out for god knows how many years, well it did for me anyway.. 

Fully agree with this but that is where the commonality should have stopped - the management teams at both tracks should have been completely separate. Allit should have been at Lynn or Peterboro - not both - and preferably Peterboro so he was out of our hair

 

Anyone know if the pit gate is now 'fixed'  ......

[Bald Bloke]

1 minute ago, kelvinht said:

Fully agree with this but that is where the commonality should have stopped - the management teams at both tracks should have been completely separate. Allit should have been at Lynn or Peterboro - not both - and preferably Peterboro so he was out of our hair

 

Anyone know if the pit gate is now 'fixed'  ......

Yep .Can't disagree..  Buster has been at Lynn over 25 years, and we are still coming second best.

[TINYS]

Did they get that bit for the pit gate.

[Bald Bloke]

1 hour ago, TINYS said:

Did they get that bit for the pit gate.

Not got a clue TINYS.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

2 hours ago, TINYS said:

Did they get that bit for the pit gate.

Heard it arrived but they couldn't find a left handed screwdriver so couldn't fit it ....

[rearingtogo]

On 5/6/2023 at 3:04 PM, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

Heard it arrived but they couldn't find a left handed screwdriver so couldn't fit it ....

Managed to find an Irish screwdriver to fit the gates, only now to find the screws sent are too long and are sticking out the other side. Still can’t run as now it’s become a health and safety issue.

[szkocjasid]

On 5/5/2023 at 3:11 PM, mikebv said:

As for "regime change"? Well not attending at all will easily facilitate that, but with the sport losing tracks so quickly, and no real financial rewards available, who would put their money into it to replace the current promoters? 

At least they are prepared to fund it...

Totally agree with these points, lost of people suggesting Buster should leave & let someone else run the clubs, but without him there'd likely be no Peterborough or Lynn, would that mean no Premiership too?

[Greg]

you all moan and slate buster but with out him there would be no Kings Lynn or Peterborough and when he was head of the board he even kept other club going but hay hater gunna hate. 

[StarBoy]

FOLLOWING the postponement of the recent King’s Lynn v Ipswich Premiership fixture, the Speedway Control Bureau launched an investigation into the reasons behind the call-off.

The meeting was scheduled to take place at the Adrian Flux Arena on Thursday May 4, but was postponed on the afternoon of May 3 by stadium owners Norfolk Arena Limited.

The reason given for the postponement was significant damage to the stock car fence, including the pits gate, following a stock car meeting on Bank Holiday Monday (May 1), which could not be repaired in time for the speedway meeting to take place.

The SCB reviewed the circumstances of this postponement, having requested further information from King’s Lynn Speedway and Norfolk Arena Limited, with both parties complying with this investigation.

Both King’s Lynn Speedway and Norfolk Arena Limited have been exonerated of any kind of improper conduct regarding the postponement of the fixture.

A new date for the King’s Lynn v Ipswich fixture will be communicated as soon as possible.

[Bald Bloke]

Duck, and wait for the P/boro lot...

 

Edited May 9, 2023 by Bald Bloke

[Flappy]

8 hours ago, Greg said:

you all moan and slate buster but with out him there would be no Kings Lynn or Peterborough and when he was head of the board he even kept other club going but hay hater gunna hate. 

Bless. Speedway for the sake of it not for me.  I'll miss Peterborough speedway when it's gone I'm sure but the way it's been run into the ground has softened that blow for sure 

[TTT]

19 minutes ago, Flappy said:

Bless. Speedway for the sake of it not for me.  I'll miss Peterborough speedway when it's gone I'm sure but the way it's been run into the ground has softened that blow for sure 

Same and shouldn't be for anyone.

I'll never understand any fan who's happy to splash out £20+ a night just to watch the opposition go 5-1, 4-2, 5-1, 4-2 throughout most of the evening.