SamKM91 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 How Klindt even kept his place after his little showing at the end of last season I'll never know... he desperately needs to go and he needs to go now!! Alex and Dale need to do something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lynnfan91 said: How Klindt even kept his place after his little showing at the end of last season I'll never know... he desperately needs to go and he needs to go now!! Alex and Dale need to do something This seems familiar. Peterborough and king's Lynn who picked their teams? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubichair Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Lynnfan91 said: How Klindt even kept his place after his little showing at the end of last season I'll never know... he desperately needs to go and he needs to go now!! Alex and Dale need to do something While dale is involved expect nothing but rubbish performances every year! But don’t worry most of these riders will be back for 2024 as they Mates with him lol Edited April 24, 2023 by pubichair 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Flappy said: This seems familiar. Peterborough and king's Lynn who picked their teams? I’m not sure Buster does.He must sign it off, but he has taken a step back at both clubs. Dale has taken up more of a roll in both clubs for the last 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 I’ve done a quick one, after 4 meetings in all comps.. NK 4.85 TJ 5.86 JP 6.28 KK 6.11 MPT 5.11 Fred 5.33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: I’ve done a quick one, after 4 meetings in all comps.. NK 4.85 TJ 5.86 JP 6.28 KK 6.11 MPT 5.11 Fred 5.33 Isn't that 'strength in depth' when your sixth rider in the averages is only 1.43 behind the top rider? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwichstar Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 This team clearly was not going to deliver, it's performing exactly as I thought it would, but hoped would be proved wrong. Only a few fixtures in, but the writing is well and truly on the wall. It hurts as a fan of nearly 40 years .Although I cannot get to every meeting I am seriously considering for the rest of this season crossing the border to watch speedway at Foxhall, can't believe I'm saying that, but cannot face another season of being the whipping boys going into every fixture expecting to loose 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 hours ago, mikebv said: Isn't that 'strength in depth' when your sixth rider in the averages is only 1.43 behind the top rider? Or weakness in depth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, Norwichstar said: This team clearly was not going to deliver, it's performing exactly as I thought it would, but hoped would be proved wrong. Only a few fixtures in, but the writing is well and truly on the wall. It hurts as a fan of nearly 40 years .Although I cannot get to every meeting I am seriously considering for the rest of this season crossing the border to watch speedway at Foxhall, can't believe I'm saying that, but cannot face another season of being the whipping boys going into every fixture expecting to loose But it never looked like it would be bad enough to only score low thirties, a team this solid should be getting 40 everywhere even if its losing. At least then there would be some hope that a slight improvement would result in a win. Certain riders aren't achieving what they were at the end of last season for no apparent reason. I get that some big names have returned but we have only raced two different teams so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 7 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: I’ve done a quick one, after 4 meetings in all comps.. NK 4.85 TJ 5.86 JP 6.28 KK 6.11 MPT 5.11 Fred 5.33 Very similar to P'boro. [Iversen 6.29 followed by Worrall 6.13] In fact put the top 7 from both teams together and it comes to less than 42. (And top 6 plus JE as rising star is well under the limit.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: But it never looked like it would be bad enough to only score low thirties, a team this solid should be getting 40 everywhere even if its losing. At least then there would be some hope that a slight improvement would result in a win. Certain riders aren't achieving what they were at the end of last season for no apparent reason. I get that some big names have returned but we have only raced two different teams so far. I see it a different way. When you have a team of 3rd heat leaders and second strings you are going to have matches when they all click and you do a great job and a good score (last week against Wolves as an eg) but you will have more matches scoring 30 or less because of no real genuine solid scoring. This team was never going to threaten the top 4 imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldHawk Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 I have been racking my brains since last nights meeting to see if I can ever remember so many people leaving a meeting before the end. I could not recall anything like it in a almost 50 year speedway career!! I was standing in a place overlooking the car park and it was bad, at least 20 cars. Buster needs to wake up before the crowd becomes even more dangerously low. Agree with others, Nicolas Klunck was rubbish and needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 35 minutes ago, stevebrum said: I see it a different way. When you have a team of 3rd heat leaders and second strings you are going to have matches when they all click and you do a great job and a good score (last week against Wolves as an eg) but you will have more matches scoring 30 or less because of no real genuine solid scoring. This team was never going to threaten the top 4 imho. The main thing the team was based on is a high scoring reserve and apart from Jaksobsen at Wolves it's not happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKM91 Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 Kasprzak not riding against Leicester on Thursday as he's in Poland and Picko still injured... I've heard the team for Thursday will be 1 Klindt, 2 Jorgensen, 3 Jakobsen, 4 S.Worrall (G), 5 Palm Toft, 6 Craig Cook (G), 7 Edwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, Lynnfan91 said: Kasprzak not riding against Leicester on Thursday as he's in Poland and Picko still injured... I've heard the team for Thursday will be 1 Klindt, 2 Jorgensen, 3 Jakobsen, 4 S.Worrall (G), 5 Palm Toft, 6 Craig Cook (G), 7 Edwards It is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwichstar Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 They look and should be a fairly solid team, but that relies on them all performing and in my mind there are too many inconsistent riders...too many gambles. NK did nothing last season to justify his inclusion, TJ lovely fella, can score well, but too inconsistent and in my view has had too many chances with us. MPT, last season's injury would have concerned me but if that was/ has healed, yes would have had a punt on him. KK, need I say anything, but so pleased for his max against Wolves. Picko, still think we could get more points from him, but he's a trier. Fred, disappointed with him so far. So far even Jason doesn't seem to have carried last season's form across, but we shouldn't have to rely on his points, he,s learning. I don't believe the riders go out with the intent to ride badly, the fault lies with those that put them there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 57 minutes ago, Lynnfan91 said: Kasprzak not riding against Leicester on Thursday as he's in Poland and Picko still injured... I've heard the team for Thursday will be 1 Klindt, 2 Jorgensen, 3 Jakobsen, 4 S.Worrall (G), 5 Palm Toft, 6 Craig Cook (G), 7 Edwards 35 minutes ago, tellboy said: It is. Have a feeling Cook is to have a look as a replacement for someone?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneacat Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, arnieg said: Very similar to P'boro. [Iversen 6.29 followed by Worrall 6.13] In fact put the top 7 from both teams together and it comes to less than 42. (And top 6 plus JE as rising star is well under the limit.) I said similar last night - put the best from both teams together and it still wouldn’t work. Buster has two HUGE problems on his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, maneacat said: I said similar last night - put the best from both teams together and it still wouldn’t work. Buster has two HUGE problems on his hands. Only himself and Dale to blame 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Mimmo said: So, Simon scored more points than Nicolai Klindt, Jason Edwards and David Bellego(Sheffield). He scored as many points as Michael Palm Toft & Frederik Jakobsen and if you included bonus points, he was better than those two. So, of the 14-riders on display, he was better than a third of them. I never make comments on here with regarding the rights and wrongs of what managements are doing at any club, but the comments I'm reading about Messrs Chapman, Allitt & Brady on both the King's Lynn & Peterborough sites, are in my opinion, cause to make them walk away, hence the closure of both clubs. DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT? Of course everyone has the right of freedom of speech, but don't you think it would be better to be done in a more productive way, rather than continually slagging people off that are putting a lot of money into keeping the sport alive at those two venues. Do you really, with hand on heart, want to risk losing the sport you love, forever, because that's what would happen, then your only choice of watching the sport without travelling to the Midlands and beyond, would be Ipswich & Mildenhall? Just for this one time only, do I think the team that has been put together at KIng's Lynn is good, then no I don't. Did they have enough money to put better teams out, if I include Peterborough, only they know that, so I can't be critical on that point. Do I have the answers to solving the obvious problems, no I don't thankfully, as I'm not putting thousands of pounds into clubs in to trying to entertain us all. I know that you will probably start slagging me off now, but BRING IT ON, because it seems that all the British Speedway Forum is designed to these days, is look at negatives instead of praising positives. I'll close my posting by saying, please continue supporting your respect clubs, and show some respect towards those who run them. Okay, so fire away if you want, but I will not react to any of them. Enjoy your sport. 3 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: So you'd prefer disgruntled fans to just put up & shut up? When they've had enough, walk away silently? Come on Mimmo. I'd always spoken face to face with JC when he was there & Buster. They actually listened. Whether they did anything or not didn't matter, they listened. I felt wanted. When Wagstaff was in charge he made the fans feel wanted, easy to talk to about anything, it could be argued we were even worse than now back then. Anyone tried speaking with Allitt about their unhappiness yet? He does not (or didn't then anyway) take negativity well at all. Told me I have know idea what I'm talking about (a few expletives) & turned on his heels. He never spoke to me again. Point is, when you try to show your discontent face to face & they disrespect you as a life long fan only so much can be taken. It does look like, with the teams being put out year on year, Allitt still doesn't get it. Personally, Allitt is the biggest problem for King's Lynn (& Peterborough) but it all falls back on Buster because he employs this guy. It may be unfortunate for you Mimmo that everyone's unhappiness is exhausted on a forum (a social media) but that's the modern world. Everyone now has a voice. Apart from trolls, most people are very constructive but it's not being listened to at all. That could be said for every Premiership club to be honest. As horrible as it can get on here at times, every single promoter & manager should be reading this forum. There 'head in the sand' mentality is not working for this sport what so ever. Sheffield & Ipswich are very fortunate they have a 'sugar daddy' sponsor at the moment. In actual fact, we had that sponsor ourselves, wonder why they left us?!?!? Belle Vue are sticking in there competitively. It's not a coincidence King's Lynn & Peterborough are the 2 worst run Premiership clubs mate. Mimmo, this sport is dying, fans should not be silenced, they have to be allowed to demand change in anyway they see fit. Adding these here, it's important to debate 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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