LisaColette Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 36 minutes ago, Big Al said: What does "out and out" actually mean? Sounds like a bulls**t expression, used by people but with no clear meaning. A rider's either a number one or not. Defined by his CMA I don't think you really get out and out no1's anymore. Back in the day in top league you would have majority of GP stars so definitely had them. Personally I would class anyone with 9+ average as an out and out No1, but not many of them it seems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, lisa-colette said: I don't think you really get out and out no1's anymore. Back in the day in top league you would have majority of GP stars so definitely had them. Personally I would class anyone with 9+ average as an out and out No1, but not many of them it seems! It's almost as bad as another word which has crept into sporting boll**cks-speak, the "Marquee signing". Strange, I've always thought a marquee is a large tent. "We've signed a large tent"..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 hours ago, lisa-colette said: I don't think you really get out and out no1's anymore. Back in the day in top league you would have majority of GP stars so definitely had them. Personally I would class anyone with 9+ average as an out and out No1, but not many of them it seems! You can’t afford a9+ average these days,you might find it hard to get aTeam place next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 Expecting to see this 1-5. 1. Kyle Howarth 8.35 2. Dan Gilkes 4.55 3. Ben Barker 7.80 4. Hans Andersen 7.00 5. Richie Worrall 7.96 6. 2.00 7. 2.00 0.34 left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, TTT said: Expecting to see this 1-5. 1. Kyle Howarth 8.35 2. Dan Gilkes 4.55 3. Ben Barker 7.80 4. Hans Andersen 7.00 5. Richie Worrall 7.96 6. 2.00 7. 2.00 0.34 left Hans is not at Plymouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Skidder1 said: Hans is not at Plymouth. I take it he's not riding in the Championship at all next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, TTT said: Expecting to see this 1-5. 1. Kyle Howarth 8.35 2. Dan Gilkes 4.55 3. Ben Barker 7.80 4. Hans Andersen 7.00 5. Richie Worrall 7.96 6. 2.00 7. 2.00 0.34 left Dan Thompson instead of Andersen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, phillipsr said: Dan Thompson instead of Andersen Leaves enough to have 4 pointer at reserve. Complin or Tate Z and then a 2 pointer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0310 Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 I’m hearing what Andersen was on last season was mental money and I doubt anyone would pay that this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendonebunching Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 Ben Barker signing confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 Plymouth clearly don't learn their lesson regarding Barker. They will reap what they sow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherborne Green Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 Scream I think you are being a little silly. Barker has been a good rider for Plymouth i personally think he was silly with what he took but who is to say what I would do if in pain. I do not think it is even benefit of the doubt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 hours ago, TTT said: Expecting to see this 1-5. 1. Kyle Howarth 8.35 2. Dan Gilkes 4.55 3. Ben Barker 7.80 4. Hans Andersen 7.00 5. Richie Worrall 7.96 6. 2.00 7. 2.00 0.34 left Looks an awful long tail, but better heat leaders than Berwick & better second strings than Oxford! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0310 Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, screm said: Plymouth clearly don't learn their lesson regarding Barker. They will reap what they sow. That’s daft it’s been proven it was not a recreational drug he was daft for exceeding dosages of painkillers and the Plymouth promotion took him to a clinic for a drug test to prove it was just that and nothing more so I think your comment is frankly out of order like someone else has said if your in that much pain who knows what we all would do in the same circumstances. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) I see they announced Barker has being in the number 4 race jacket, I think some team managers think they are being "clever" by having a stronger rider in heat 14. But for me it would make sense to adjust your riding order based on your opponents, i.e if there's an opposition heat leader Barker should beat & an opposition second string Gilkes should beat - then line them up against them in heats 8/12/14 for the extra point. Edited December 10, 2022 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) Drew Kemp or Dillon Ruml to complete the 1-5? Edited December 10, 2022 by TTT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Mike0310 said: That’s daft it’s been proven it was not a recreational drug he was daft for exceeding dosages of painkillers and the Plymouth promotion took him to a clinic for a drug test to prove it was just that and nothing more so I think your comment is frankly out of order like someone else has said if your in that much pain who knows what we all would do in the same circumstances. Agree about the pain issue but you have to admit there have been problems at other clubs he has been at. Barker's an exciting rider to watch even if he can seem a little out of control on track at times. Hopefully his uncle Mark will keep an eye on him. Edited December 11, 2022 by Skidder1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 8 hours ago, TTT said: Drew Kemp or Dillon Ruml to complete the 1-5? I wouldn't think it would be Kemp because I don't think he has a ride anywhere which is a shame for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomPirate Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 8 hours ago, TTT said: Drew Kemp or Dillon Ruml to complete the 1-5? Starke 5.11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTW Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 12/10/2022 at 1:09 AM, szkocjasid said: As there's 9 teams on the league, the top 9 riders can rightly be described as number ones. Using the 2022 aves, not just the last 10 matches (rolling aves) Howarth is the 5th best rider in the league. So I think it's fair to call him "an out & out number one" Masters (10.03) Morris (9.33) Douglas (9.24) Harris (9.07) Howarth (8.87) Cook (8.84) R.Worrall (8.74) Pickering (8.67) Lawson (8.48) Masters,Lawson,Harris,Douglas,Morris there I’d call out and out no1 riders atm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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