Plymouth Gladiators 2023

[szkocjasid]

On 12/24/2022 at 10:09 AM, Spiderman1 said:

Think he would be good signing, a qlder  for a start,lap record pace, always has flashest gear , room for improvement , bargin average ,as keen as mustard capable of heat leader

 

6 hours ago, torpointfanatic22 said:

Can't say anything about his roots but heat leader, no chance.

I agree ZK isn't heat leader material, but that's no reason not to sign him. Plymouth looking for a strong reserve with 4 points available, Keleher looks one of the best options out there!

[HGould]

A rider who showed real speed and promise on a few occasions a few years ago, could suit Brummies or Plymouth!

Valentin Grobauer.

Not sure what he's doing these days but worth a look maybe?

I've a vague recollection he shacked up with Gary May when he rode for Somerset?

[LisaColette]

10 hours ago, Matt Davis said:

Kelleher and Poole is like uncle Bryn and Jason from Gavin and Stacey’s fishing trip 

Any Gavin and Stacey fans on here knows what this means. I can only cope with ten mins before I turn over 

[Najjer]

8 hours ago, HGould said:

A rider who showed real speed and promise on a few occasions a few years ago, could suit Brummies or Plymouth!

Valentin Grobauer.

Not sure what he's doing these days but worth a look maybe?

I've a vague recollection he shacked up with Gary May when he rode for Somerset?

….before he was given the boot because to be honest, he isn’t that good!

[szkocjasid]

9 hours ago, HGould said:

A rider who showed real speed and promise on a few occasions a few years ago, could suit Brummies or Plymouth!

Valentin Grobauer.

Not sure what he's doing these days but worth a look maybe?

I've a vague recollection he shacked up with Gary May when he rode for Somerset?

 

34 minutes ago, Najjer said:

….before he was given the boot because to be honest, he isn’t that good!

Did he ever get a shot at reserve though? My memory says he was always a second string, so could score more at 6/7?

[HGould]

Spot on 

He didn't ride at reserve I don't think as it was Rowe and Atkins. 

Would have had some tough heats riding at 4.

Showed real speed at some tracks including Somerset 

[lewy]

2 minutes ago, HGould said:

Spot on 

He didn't ride at reserve I don't think as it was Rowe and Atkins. 

Would have had some tough heats riding at 4.

Showed real speed at some tracks including Somerset 

He was poor at Plymouth if my memory serves me correctly. As said could do a job at reserve. 

Edited December 29, 2022 by lewy

[Nickinho]

On 12/29/2022 at 10:01 AM, lisa-colette said:

Any Gavin and Stacey fans on here knows what this means. I can only cope with ten mins before I turn over 

I'm the same. I can't stand the sight of James Corden along with that continuous laugh of his.

[SteveLyric2]

So with 6.21 left for the last 2 riders, who will Plymouth be surprising us all with?

Happy New Year Gladiator fans.

Edited December 31, 2022 by Skidder1

[Mike0310]

46 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

So with 6.21 left for the last 2 riders, who will Plymouth be surprising us all with?

Happy New Year Gladiator fans.

No one because we only have one rider left to sign my moneys on Roynon for the last place.

[lewy]

13 minutes ago, Mike0310 said:

No one because we only have one rider left to sign my moneys on Roynon for the last place.

Roynon is Poole bound,which is a pity Plymouth would be a good fit for him he likes the track, the promotion rate him and he would score good points for us. I think at Poole he will be dropped before the playoffs to make way for a new asset imo.

Edited December 31, 2022 by lewy

[LisaColette]

41 minutes ago, lewy said:

Roynon is Poole bound,which is a pity Plymouth would be a good fit for him he likes the track, the promotion rate him and he would score good points for us. I think at Poole he will be dropped before the playoffs to make way for a new asset imo.

Just like Ablitt was dropped. Oh wait... 

[HGould]

2 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

Just like Ablitt was dropped. Oh wait... 

Ablitt was always the best 2 point option available and still is. 

Once signed by Poole there was no better 2 point option at any stage of 2022.

Roynon will be dumped just as soon as a 4 point Aussie proves fitness and their overall team average will be manipulated to facilitate that scenarii

It's a shame Roynon can't see that probability as he'd have been a key player at The Coliseum. 

It's a shame Ablitt has committed to Polish U24 on a Tuesday as he'd have been a far better option than Trigger who's nowhere near ready. 

[lewy]

2 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

Just like Ablitt was dropped. Oh wait... 

Ablitt couldn't have been changed as you never had any points to play with, you would have had to have a double change or another 2pointer.

[STEVEHOLS54]

2 hours ago, HGould said:

Ablitt was always the best 2 point option available and still is. 

Once signed by Poole there was no better 2 point option at any stage of 2022.

Roynon will be dumped just as soon as a 4 point Aussie proves fitness and their overall team average will be manipulated to facilitate that scenarii

It's a shame Roynon can't see that probability as he'd have been a key player at The Coliseum. 

It's a shame Ablitt has committed to Polish U24 on a Tuesday as he'd have been a far better option than Trigger who's nowhere near ready. 

Just fyi it's worth pointing out that Ablitt is part of a 9 man Wroclaw squad named so far in POL. 

It could be others also get signed as Zischke was only named in the Leszno U24 squad in the last 24 hours and that squad is now up to 12 riders of which 8 are Poles - 3 Aussies and one is Ukranian.

You are not guaranteed a start but no doubt the excellent practice & training facilities in POL will sort out who gets a slot and who doesn't.

Even if just training and racing in some of the matches on arguably the best tracks in the World will be a great experience for these youngsters.

[szkocjasid]

On 12/31/2022 at 1:14 PM, lewy said:

Roynon is Poole bound,which is a pity Plymouth would be a good fit for him he likes the track, the promotion rate him and he would score good points for us. I think at Poole he will be dropped before the playoffs to make way for a new asset imo.

 

On 12/31/2022 at 4:16 PM, HGould said:

Ablitt was always the best 2 point option available and still is. 

Once signed by Poole there was no better 2 point option at any stage of 2022.

Roynon will be dumped just as soon as a 4 point Aussie proves fitness and their overall team average will be manipulated to facilitate that scenarii

It's a shame Roynon can't see that probability as he'd have been a key player at The Coliseum. 

It's a shame Ablitt has committed to Polish U24 on a Tuesday as he'd have been a far better option than Trigger who's nowhere near ready. 

Quite a few riders who rode well for Poole at reserve got dumped when their averages went up, Hans Andersen, Artur Mroczka, Renat Gafurov & Drew Kemp spring to mind. I guess it's a risk a rider has to be willing to make, improve your average & you may get dropped!

Edited January 3, 2023 by szkocjasid

[PTW]

21 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

 

Quite a few riders who rode well for Poole at reserve got dumped when their averages went up, Hans Andersen, Artur Mroczka, Renat Gafurov & Drew Kemp spring to mind. I guess it's a risk a rider has to be willing to make, improve your average & you may get dropped!

Think you will find your wrong with Hans Andersen he was retained in 2002 after attaining a mid 6 average from reserve in 2001 the rider that wasn’t retained was Krzysztof Cegielski 

[szkocjasid]

1 hour ago, PTW said:

Think you will find your wrong with Hans Andersen he was retained in 2002 after attaining a mid 6 average from reserve in 2001 the rider that wasn’t retained was Krzysztof Cegielski 

Yeah I went via my memory rather than looking it up, but I guess that means they dropped the stronger rider & kept the weaker one. Not meant as a dig at Poole, who want to win no matter what. But certainly think Roynon is more likely to get a full season if he signed for Plymouth rather than Poole.

[tocha]

21 hours ago, PTW said:

Think you will find your wrong with Hans Andersen he was retained in 2002 after attaining a mid 6 average from reserve in 2001 the rider that wasn’t retained was Krzysztof Cegielski 

This is not entirely correct. Krzysztof qualified for the SGP in 2002 but lost his place in the Poole team because of the ruling that year restricting clubs to just one GP rider so he moved to Eastbourne. Poole already had Tony Rickardsson who joined them in 2001.

[gazzac]

49 minutes ago, tocha said:

This is not entirely correct. Krzysztof qualified for the SGP in 2002 but lost his place in the Poole team because of the ruling that year restricting clubs to just one GP rider so he moved to Eastbourne. Poole already had Tony Rickardsson who joined them in 2001.

Can't remember the exact reason but he never rode for Eastbourne in 2002( may have been a Saturday night fixture problem),and we ended up with Mark Loram  instead which may have been our choice when he became available. Having said that he was amazing for Poole even around the tight track the couple of times I saw him at Arlington. 

Edited January 5, 2023 by gazzac