Baldyman Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 27 minutes ago, mikebv said: I have a 30 year old Wulf Sport jacket and a matching tartan blanket and flask set that all still have a lot of wear in them so why would I not attend and pay them money? My sleeve less denim jacket full of sew patches ("Speedway riders do it sideways" is my favourite), also will stand me in good stead on the terraces for a few years yet, so don't want to waste that money spent.. And I currently have 53 years of "Year Bars" on my admittedly well faded Red (Pinkish) and White scarf.. I do walk now with a stoop though given the weight of it.. Cannot wait for next season to see what exciting unique innovations the promoters will bring... Completing all the qualification fixtures BEFORE the finals they relate to maybe? (Radical).. Or having finalists actually attending the finals they qualify for possibly? (Equally, if not more, radical but you never know).... Roll on 2023.... Have you got a really old programme board and a vast array of programmes and speedway stars in the loft,,, all in date order of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, mikebv said: You would maybe have expected an official press release from the "governing body" about something so fundamental as having 4 riders missing wouldn't you? Still, rinse and repeat for the next time... Years ago you only found out that "superstar x" was not there when you had paid your money to get in.. At least now with the internet we find out before hand.. I agree - years ago other than local radio there was no means of letting fans If a certain rider wasn’t going to be there - no excuse now with social media ( though I think Twitter and Facebook club account have died a death judging by the low amount of comments now ) but there is club websites - absolutely no excuse for fans being treated like mushrooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 13 hours ago, Derrickn said: It was said BV had signed Lambert as a Long Term replacement for an injured rider.Well that was a load of BS. No, the wording is “proven long term injury”. Nothing to do with how long the replacement is used - examples being Tungate at Ipswich and Sedgmen at Sheffield, who were both replacements for long term injured riders, even though both replaced riders (Riss and Allen) returned for their Champ clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, Haza said: I agree - years ago other than local radio there was no means of letting fans If a certain rider wasn’t going to be there - no excuse now with social media ( though I think Twitter and Facebook club account have died a death judging by the low amount of comments now ) but there is club websites - absolutely no excuse for fans being treated like mushrooms. KL posted cheerfully on their Facebook and Twitter with an hour to go, yet the news about Lambert had been circulating at least an hour before that … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 45 minutes ago, Trees said: He thought BV had informed the British public.....make that he thought KL had!! He's not our rider at the mo Doesn’t matter who didn’t do it - KL were the hosts and cheerfully advertised the meeting on Twitter and FaceBook with an hour to go, but no mention even though they must have known. Locals who were tempted by Lambert’s presence might well have called off if they had known. Irrespective of who the riders are, clubs involved should make every effort to inform paying customers of changes as soon as they are known. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 13 hours ago, Fromafar said: Just conning the fans as usual.The sport cannot survive the way it’s going, treating the fans with contempt.We even have Teams the cannot be bothered fulfilling their fixtures now.It’s a joke. This is very true. Sadly, most will be back next year with the same gripes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 I’m really not happy with the way Belle Vue have reverted to type and just lay down and had their belly tickled by the cartel. They should have made Robert ride or taken action if not but the old doctors note trick is played. Going along with the muzzling about his absence isn’t good but we’ve had a few telling offs for posting honesty on social media and I guess they didn’t want to feel the wrath of the BSPL/BSF cartel who went into overdrive when there was money to be (duped) made from the long suffering fans. With all clubs being able to make use of the Polish deal sorted earlier this year (and not just Belle Vue) I see several returning and Roberts low average will fit nicely at Lynn. On an equally low average confusingly is Jakobsen at 5.04. Had the rules been followed re rolling averages it would have increased considerably. TBH quite why he is allowed to use meetings from 2018 for his 2023 average is beyond me but the cartel get what the cartel want and bugger us, the rules and their rivals. Sad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Baldyman said: Have you got a really old programme board and a vast array of programmes and speedway stars in the loft,,, all in date order of course Home made proggy board... Nice bit of 24 inch by 12 inch wooden board, painted in white, (two coats and then varnished so as not to chip)... With stickers on them of riders from the 70's and a huge bulldog clip to keep my programme in place, which also allows for three different coloured pens to be held there tightly and securely.... I do obviously keep spare pens (of the same three colours obviously) in my corduroy jackets top pocket... I have boxes of SS's for each season, and all boxes are clearly labelled in chronological order in my loft. (As you say all the contents are in date order too).... Meaning if today I suddenly felt that I needed to review for example how well Bob Valentine did in 1975 then all I need to do is open that box, and hey presto I can read through all his performances for that season, including his Aussie season... Happy Days... Happy Days.... Edited October 25, 2022 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, mikebv said: Home made proggy board... Nice bit of 24 inch by 12 inch wooden board, painted in white, (two coats and then varnished so as not to chip)... With stickers on them of riders from the 70's and a huge bulldog clip to keep my programme in place, which also allows for three different coloured pens to be held there tightly and securely.... I do obviously keep spare pens (of the same three colours obviously) in my corduroy jackets top pocket... I have boxes of SS's for each season, and all boxes are clearly labelled in chronological order in my loft. (As you say all the contents are in date order too).... Meaning if today I suddenly felt that I needed to review for example how well Bob Valentine did in 1975 then all I need to do is open that box, and hey presto I can read through all his performances for that season, including his Aussie season... Happy Days... Happy Days.... Oh mate,,, I'm so jealous right now,,, but also a little disappointed,,,, no mention of a tipex and spare tipex,,, and one of those cheap led lights attached to your board so you can see perfectly that you haven't strayed over the lines and outside the boxes whilst writing scores. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 57 minutes ago, mikebv said: Home made proggy board... Nice bit of 24 inch by 12 inch wooden board, painted in white, (two coats and then varnished so as not to chip)... With stickers on them of riders from the 70's and a huge bulldog clip to keep my programme in place, which also allows for three different coloured pens to be held there tightly and securely.... I do obviously keep spare pens (of the same three colours obviously) in my corduroy jackets top pocket... I have boxes of SS's for each season, and all boxes are clearly labelled in chronological order in my loft. (As you say all the contents are in date order too).... Meaning if today I suddenly felt that I needed to review for example how well Bob Valentine did in 1975 then all I need to do is open that box, and hey presto I can read through all his performances for that season, including his Aussie season... Happy Days... Happy Days.... That’s the game.!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Baldyman said: Oh mate,,, I'm so jealous right now,,, but also a little disappointed,,,, no mention of a tipex and spare tipex,,, and one of those cheap led lights attached to your board so you can see perfectly that you haven't strayed over the lines and outside the boxes whilst writing scores. Damn that last minute Rider Replacement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 hours ago, ouch said: I’m really not happy with the way Belle Vue have reverted to type and just lay down and had their belly tickled by the cartel. They should have made Robert ride or taken action if not but the old doctors note trick is played. Going along with the muzzling about his absence isn’t good but we’ve had a few telling offs for posting honesty on social media and I guess they didn’t want to feel the wrath of the BSPL/BSF cartel who went into overdrive when there was money to be (duped) made from the long suffering fans. With all clubs being able to make use of the Polish deal sorted earlier this year (and not just Belle Vue) I see several returning and Roberts low average will fit nicely at Lynn. On an equally low average confusingly is Jakobsen at 5.04. Had the rules been followed re rolling averages it would have increased considerably. TBH quite why he is allowed to use meetings from 2018 for his 2023 average is beyond me but the cartel get what the cartel want and bugger us, the rules and their rivals. Sad. Word is Robert will not be returning to Lynn any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Trees said: It was up to BV to announce it not KL, Robert informed BV not KL! They should've for their own fans' sakes imo! Poor!! Being ultra fair both promotions would have known Lambert wasn’t riding because of the line up website used by officials and Referees etc in the lead up to the meeting., notwithstanding that even out of courtesy BV would have let Lynn know he had twisted his ankle and was injured. (I seriously doubt that anyone on this forum honestly believes this $hyte but hey ho let’s play the game anyway) The fact that Neither club said anything is extremely poor. But let’s be fair Lambert was brought in for one purpose only, to give BV the edge in the Play Offs, he was never going to do anything else and most understood that. However yet another kicking for the supporters who paid to attend, honestly thinking Lambert was riding, wonderful PR yet again. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: Being ultra fair both promotions would have known Lambert wasn’t riding because of the line up website used by officials and Referees etc in the lead up to the meeting., notwithstanding that even out of courtesy BV would have let Lynn know he had twisted his ankle and was injured. (I seriously doubt that anyone on this forum honestly believes this $hyte but hey ho let’s play the game anyway) The fact that Neither club said anything is extremely poor. But let’s be fair Lambert was brought in for one purpose only, to give BV the edge in the Play Offs, he was never going to do anything else and most understood that. However yet another kicking for the supporters who paid to attend, honestly thinking Lambert was riding, wonderful PR yet again. Given the (how apt), decades old "track record" of the sport in relation to such things, I would be truly amazed if anyone expected a full compliment of riders who were not previously out injured.. That neither side gave up the details about their missing riders till quite late on in the piece speaks volumes as to how they choose to run the sport in this country... But.. The vast majority of us know, and expect, things like this to happen this way dont we? If you still shell out for such a nonsense situation then you cannot really blame the promoters for providing a service when so many still purchase it... Planning to run a qualifying event two weeks after the Aces had been crowned Champions of the same competition is simply ludicrous isnt it? Therefore, if that is your starting point, then anything that happens after that cannot make it any more ridiculous or less significant... The home team won, there was some good racing, and lads got a chance to earn a good few quid before the season ends.. That's the only aspirational criteria for UK Speedway... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Just explained to my youngest about last night's meetings deciding the final league placings but the semi and final were run a few weeks ago. He kept saying can you explain that again. Lol He's only ever been to one meeting at Stoke about 10 years ago when he said it looks like professional riders riding in a sport run by amateurs He just said looks like nothings changed, I said yeh it has its got worse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, bigcatdiary said: Being ultra fair both promotions would have known Lambert wasn’t riding because of the line up website used by officials and Referees etc in the lead up to the meeting., notwithstanding that even out of courtesy BV would have let Lynn know he had twisted his ankle and was injured. (I seriously doubt that anyone on this forum honestly believes this $hyte but hey ho let’s play the game anyway) The fact that Neither club said anything is extremely poor. Agree absolutely and the fact Belle Vue capitulated to Stars request to keep schtum is a disgrace. Are we part of the cartel now? Wonder what reciprocal back scratch we’re entitled to now. Grim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 11 hours ago, Fromafar said: Injured Playing on Pit bikes during speedway season so Professional,imagine him having to tell these stories to his Polish Club.Typical speedway rider these days no thought for the people who pay their wages. Not suggesting Lambert is lying, but there's no way he would have missed a Torun match for this reason! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 8 hours ago, ouch said: I’m really not happy with the way Belle Vue have reverted to type and just lay down and had their belly tickled by the cartel. They should have made Robert ride or taken action if not but the old doctors note trick is played. Going along with the muzzling about his absence isn’t good but we’ve had a few telling offs for posting honesty on social media and I guess they didn’t want to feel the wrath of the BSPL/BSF cartel who went into overdrive when there was money to be (duped) made from the long suffering fans. With all clubs being able to make use of the Polish deal sorted earlier this year (and not just Belle Vue) I see several returning and Roberts low average will fit nicely at Lynn. On an equally low average confusingly is Jakobsen at 5.04. Had the rules been followed re rolling averages it would have increased considerably. TBH quite why he is allowed to use meetings from 2018 for his 2023 average is beyond me but the cartel get what the cartel want and bugger us, the rules and their rivals. Sad. Jakobsen will use his 2018 5.04 ave in 2023 because he didn't race enough matches this year to get a new ave, there is no alternative. If last night's match had counted towards the rolling aves (as it should have done) he'd have raced his 6th match & have a 7+ ave for 2023. So it seems Lynn calling off a match very early for forecasted weather that never came, will help them greatly in putting out a stronger team for 2023! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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