Leicester lions 2023 (PREMIERSHIP)

[IainB]

What did the manager have to say about the tonking we took at Belle Vue yesterday morning... can't find any quotes on the website

[justathought]

1 hour ago, iainb said:

What did the manager have to say about the tonking we took at Belle Vue yesterday morning... can't find any quotes on the website

I don't really understand what you want him to say. "We were rubbish", "If only we had another heat leader"," At least it didn't rain" .???

It's done now. Was never going to win at Bell Vue, not in a million years. Get some perspective. And, if we manage to squeak into the play-offs, which is unlikely, the semi-finals will be our last meetings of the season. 

[Pinny]

I think with the huge merry go round of riders this season, that it has to be up there with one of the most ridiculous seasons ever.

Harris getting the chop from Leicester, then moaning about it like a child and then guesting for them a month later is absolutely outrageous.

It really is no wonder that nobody within the sport takes it seriously anymore. A s**t show of the highest order.

[1 valve]

1 hour ago, iainb said:

What did the manager have to say about the tonking we took at Belle Vue yesterday morning... can't find any quotes on the website

In his interview on the center green prior to the first race (in summary), he said the performance at BV had just not been acceptable. he made more about his disappointment with how the Lions lost v Tigers having been five points ahead with only three heats remaining adding "He expected the riders involved in those three heats to have been more than capable of winning the meeting".
He went on to say C Cook was expecting his call to let him know he was being replaced and that Kerr may not be the last signing that day and he had told the riders their performance that night would determine if he was to make further changes before midnight. Interestingly, all of the riders were near the pit gate and would have easily heard what the manager was saying. 

Edited August 29, 2023 by 1 valve

[IainB]

17 minutes ago, justathought said:

I don't really understand what you want him to say. "We were rubbish", "If only we had another heat leader"," At least it didn't rain" .???

It's done now. Was never going to win at Bell Vue, not in a million years. Get some perspective. And, if we manage to squeak into the play-offs, which is unlikely, the semi-finals will be our last meetings of the season. 

I'm interested to read his comments, he's always quick to appear in front of the fans after a victory but has gone missing lately after a run of defeats. Can you imagine Leicester City going down 8 nil away from home and to not read one word from the manager in the press?

[FishersGate]

23 minutes ago, iainb said:

I'm interested to read his comments, he's always quick to appear in front of the fans after a victory but has gone missing lately after a run of defeats. Can you imagine Leicester City going down 8 nil away from home and to not read one word from the manager in the press?

I have also noticed this as well. Maybe he's so annoyed that he's afraid of what he might say. It's easy to hide. I think he's a little embarrassed of the current situation. Maybe he's thinking about where his future lies next....Sheffield Maybe....

[IainB]

If we don't squeak into the play offs we have already seen our last (home) meeting of the season, in August!

[Coventry_Bee]

If you took starting line ups from March to now there must be only a handful of riders who haven’t been replaced throughout the league. As a Coventry fan I don’t have the same issue but I look back on my favourite sides and we had a settled team, and you had an affinity with riders and this tosh about team spirit they try give these days. It’s a merry go round with no loyalty from clubs. 

[arnieg]

28 minutes ago, Coventry_Bee said:

If you took starting line ups from March to now there must be only a handful of riders who haven’t been replaced throughout the league. As a Coventry fan I don’t have the same issue but I look back on my favourite sides and we had a settled team, and you had an affinity with riders and this tosh about team spirit they try give these days. It’s a merry go round with no loyalty from clubs. 

31 out of 49 unchanged.

But 5 of 7 rising stars have changed.

[SteveLyric2]

Any news on the 'For Sale' situation?  factual or rumour..........?

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

8 minutes ago, arnieg said:

31 out of 49 unchanged.

But 5 of 7 rising stars have changed.

Over a third changing is a huge proportion imo

The split if separating the 3 largely unchanged sides from the other 4 would also be quite stark

 

[DJC]

28 minutes ago, arnieg said:

31 out of 49 unchanged.

But 5 of 7 rising stars have changed.

3 clubs have made 3 changes, one injury RS switch for BV and Riss out then back in for Ipswich.They changed the twins over as well, then Wolves haven't made any.

That leaves:

Kings Lynn - 6 outgoing in KK, Laguta, Edwards, Jakobsen, Thompson and Pickering.

Leicester - 5 outgoings with Cook, Dan T, Harris, Batch and Morris.

Peterborough - 4 outgoings, Pedersen, Wojdylo Andersen, Worrall

Sheffield - 5 outgoings, Holder, Kerr, Ellis, Bellego, Giles.

 

That's 20 changes with only 3/4 due to injures?  Gilkes, Holder, Pedersen and Pickering. 

[IainB]

3 minutes ago, DJC said:

3 clubs have made 3 changes, one injury RS switch for BV and Riss out then back in for Ipswich.They changed the twins over as well, then Wolves haven't made any.

That leaves:

Kings Lynn - 6 outgoing in KK, Laguta, Edwards, Jakobsen, Thompson and Pickering.

Leicester - 5 outgoings with Cook, Dan T, Harris, Batch and Morris.

Peterborough - 4 outgoings, Pedersen, Wojdylo Andersen, Worrall

Sheffield - 5 outgoings, Holder, Kerr, Ellis, Bellego, Giles.

 

That's 20 changes with only 3/4 due to injures?  Gilkes, Holder, Pedersen and Pickering. 

I think you'd have to say that after the net effect of those changes Leicester's have probably worked out the worst. Taken us from 2nd in the league to scrapping around for 4th and an immediate pay off elimination

Edited August 29, 2023 by iainb

[DJC]

1 minute ago, iainb said:

I think you'd have to say that after the net effect of those changes Leicester's have probably worked out the worst. Taken us from 2nd in the league to scrapping around for 4th and am immediate pay off elimination

Agreed, and more frustrating I'd imagine that the majority of those changes were driven by one riders actions. 

The knee jerk reaction of replacing Morris with Batch when there were (from the signings that have come later) better options out there has cost them big time. 

Even with the poor start from Laguta last night, Peterborough seem to have somehow come out of it all looking the better of those 4 sides. 

Sheffield have big hitters but a very long tail now and Kings Lynn still have a few injured or carrying injuries. 

[1 valve]

1 hour ago, DJC said:

The knee jerk reaction of replacing Morris with Batch when there were (from the signings that have come later) better options out there has cost them big time. 

Even with the poor start from Laguta last night, Peterborough seem to have somehow come out of it all looking the better of those 4 sides. 

Sheffield have big hitters but a very long tail now and Kings Lynn still have a few injured or carrying injuries. 

You need to realise that because the Lions had done so well by the time the Morris situation occurred the points available for a replacement was very low and Batchelor was one of a very short list who would fit. No question that his signing didn't help matters at all, but to replace him there was a need to ship out two riders and bring two more in and one of those (Cook) proved ineffective.  

Meanwhile & by comparison  Peterborough & Kings Lynn, having had a terrible start to the season had room, average wise, to bring in new riders who could improve the team. 

Sheffield lost a top scorer and used the points available via new signings & releasing low performers to create their new look team.

Bottom line is that  options available to the Stars, Panthers & Tigers have not been available to the Lions. 
 

Edited August 29, 2023 by 1 valve

[W9 Lion]

1 hour ago, DJC said:

Agreed, and more frustrating I'd imagine that the majority of those changes were driven by one riders actions. 

The knee jerk reaction of replacing Morris with Batch when there were (from the signings that have come later) better options out there has cost them big time. 

Even with the poor start from Laguta last night, Peterborough seem to have somehow come out of it all looking the better of those 4 sides. 

Sheffield have big hitters but a very long tail now and Kings Lynn still have a few injured or carrying injuries. 

Who were these better options you talk of?

[DJC]

5 minutes ago, W9 Lion said:

Who were these better options you talk of?

Well batch came in on 4.99, if there were the full 5 available then there's plenty of evidence that there were Danes, Poles and Russians available at that mark.

10 minutes ago, 1 valve said:

You need to realise that because the Lions had done so well by the time the Morris situation occurred the points available for a replacement was very low and Batchelor was one of a very short list who would fit. No question that his signing didn't help matters at all, but to replace him there was a need to ship out two riders and bring two more in and one of those (Cook) proved ineffective.  

Meanwhile & by comparison  Peterborough & Kings Lynn, having had a terrible start to the season had room, average wise, to bring in new riders who could improve the team. 

Sheffield lost a top scorer and used the points available via new signings & releasing low performers to create their new look team.

Bottom line is that  options available to the Stars, Panthers & Tigers have not been available to the Lions. 
 

I get that they had done well, but well enough to have carried RR until the next set came out to properly reassess options, that's where the knee jerk comment came from. 

But all that matters little as the 'for sale' must have been on the cards before the Morris issue as there has been chance to improve since and the changes have been as cost effective as they could make them. Shame as they really did start off well...Sedgman's form is the biggest concern since Morris was banned

[hyderd]

what has happened to wojdylo ? seemed a decent rider. 

 

Edited August 29, 2023 by hyderd

[SteveLyric2]

2 hours ago, hyderd said:

what has happened to wojdylo ? seemed a decent rider. 

 

visa issue apparently

[Panthers99]

3 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

visa issue apparently

Also injured now