IainB Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, SSL84 said: Iainb nick was captain at wolves when master's was out Injured and did a good job. Well I suppose if Pete Adams selected him that's quite an endorsement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Persuade Scotty to come back and fix 2 problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, False dawn said: Persuade Scotty to come back and fix 2 problems. It's baffling that he's decided to sit the PL out... for how long who knows. I would have thought that having Leicester as a home track would have suited him down to the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, iainb said: It's baffling that he's decided to sit the PL out... for how long who knows. I would have thought that having Leicester as a home track would have suited him down to the ground unless he's going to be presenting TV when PL fixtures are on? I also think people are over thinking what a captain does these days in speedway, which is pretty much nothing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, wtf said: unless he's going to be presenting TV when PL fixtures are on? I also think people are over thinking what a captain does these days in speedway, which is pretty much nothing. Not sure what you mean by these days? I think they should be as they always have been, Inspirational, set an example to the other riders in the team, be available for advice, be a link between the riders and management etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, iainb said: Not sure what you mean by these days? I think they should be as they always have been, Inspirational, set an example to the other riders in the team, be available for advice, be a link between the riders and management etc. If you want to believe that they do all or any of those things that's fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, wtf said: If you want to believe that they do all or any of those things that's fine If they don't... they shouldn't be captain, simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, iainb said: If they don't... they shouldn't be captain, simple I agree with you there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 12:53 PM, Falcon1983 said: Not sure if you can really compare Allen/Heeps not last season but the season before when Jake came back to Ipswich last minute when really planning to be out of the UK for the year he started in very good form which dipped but from memory you had Jake, Starke and someone else who really needed to be riding at no.6 to gain some confidence back, he ended up riding at no.2 or no.4 as his average didn't drop enough to fall into the reserve spot due to the form of the other two riders! Last season he didn't have a prem place, got a last minute call up to Belle Vue which didn't go as planned, he had some bike issues at the start of last season, where as for example Danny King did but he was allowed time in his teams to get it right which he did towards the end of the season he did just like lots of riders really, he then got into the Sheffield team, got injured and Sedgman came in on fire was had to keep his place, think Jake done his scaphoid which is one of the injuries you wouldn't want as a speedway rider, think my old man had a couple of these injuries. Anyway in comparison one is still riding at HL level in the championship, one is hanging on as a reserve in the same league Jake on a 4.00 average is worth a punt for any side in the prem really, but I would probably say that he needs to show his form in the championship early doors this season and if changes then happen in the prem, he will be high on the list of riders to come in on that average, no brainer if he is averaging 7/8+ in the championship to bring him in on a 4.00 and ride at no.6 for any of the prem sides Seems like a load of old excuses to me sorry. He showed promise a few seasons ago, but like Heeps, seems to now be stuck in reverse. We’ll agree to disagree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 hours ago, iainb said: Not sure what you mean by these days? I think they should be as they always have been, Inspirational, set an example to the other riders in the team, be available for advice, be a link between the riders and management etc. For me, Scotty has got better as an inspirational leader and captain, with age. He's worth 2 more points than his average just for what he does behind the scenes. I've said it before, but I'd have him back in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, False dawn said: For me, Scotty has got better as an inspirational leader and captain, with age. He's worth 2 more points than his average just for what he does behind the scenes. I've said it before, but I'd have him back in a heartbeat. Not sure you can quantify it in points on an average, but there's no doubt he's worth points in the pits, especially when the chips are down. Still the only rider to Captain the Lions to a league title... I'd too have him back in a heartbeat, it seems a no brainer to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Steve Irving said: Seems like a load of old excuses to me sorry. He showed promise a few seasons ago, but like Heeps, seems to now be stuck in reverse. We’ll agree to disagree. A quote by someone clearly not in the know of what is behind the scenes tbh Allen should have maybe not returned from his scaphoid injury last season and given himself more recovery time but when your only income is Speedway then needs must and thats going to affect any riders scoring when carrying or getting over injuries, I guess its quite easy to sit at a keyboard and criticise What is Allen on to start the season 6.80? I think in the Championship he will end up 7.40+ if he gets a premiership slot he starts on a 4.00 and can see him getting into the 5.25+ if starting at reserve, going from what I said previous I think it was Heeps & Rowe in the team with Kemp at no.7 and you had Allen/Heeps & Rowe who all needed to spend time riding at 6 at one point, Heeps & Rowe managed it and despite a strong start to that season Allen then had a poor finish Proof will be in the pudding this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizHeathen Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 10:38 AM, iainb said: Not sure he's captain material... seems a bit moany whenever he's interviewed, I suppose the obvious choice is Bomber but, much as I love him, he's a bit of a mercenary these days. There's no other obvious choice really Moany? Are you having a laugh? Maybe his honesty and straight talking Isn't to your liking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, BrizHeathen said: Moany? Are you having a laugh? Maybe his honesty and straight talking Isn't to your liking? Just speaking how he comes across to me. Don't want negativity from your Captain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 12:56 PM, wtf said: If you want to believe that they do all or any of those things that's fine That’s exactly what Rory Schlein was like as captain of Wolves, would come out with Leon after meetings to give help him with his set up etc and the same with Nathan Greaves, if I remember rightly he helped Nathan build a new bike from spares in his shed after he smashed both his up in a week. Iainb is absolutely right, that’s what a captains role is, there’s no point having one if it’s not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Nick would be a great captain. Knows the track better than anyone else ( track record holder) . His equipment is great, always speaks his mind and wants to win. Think a few years ago he called out a few riders at Leicester for not trying hard enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 With Zach cook making the jump to wolves I'm assuming Ben Cook with make the jump as well. Interesting to see if he ends up in lions colours. Would be a nice surprise 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bump Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 I don’t disagree but it’ll probably be another aussie with a lot more experience & a low average 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Mr Bump said: I don’t disagree but it’ll probably be another aussie with a lot more experience & a low average The sedgehammer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, FishersGate said: The sedgehammer? Ty The Proctologist Proctor? Edited December 5, 2022 by iainb 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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