JCookie Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 7 hours ago, Teromaafan said: Sounds good in theory, but too many of the riders doubling up rely on it to make the sport pay. All our own (British Speedway) doing unfortunately, and now we've made a rod for our own back. PL heat leaders seemed quite happy for years and years, maybe wth the odd guest booking in the EL. Now we're expected to bend over backwards to give them 2 teams in broadly similar leagues. Painted ourselves into a corner. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 12 hours ago, Fromafar said: Don’t see what having aTeam already in the Premiership has too do with it, if it doesn’t pay it way somebody has to stump up some money.Surely they don’t want to lose their own money. Of course it does, the promotion know how much riders wages are, plus all the other running costs. They haven't gone up to lose money, & must be confident that the crowds will stay high enough to break even at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, proud panther said: Of course it does, the promotion know how much riders wages are, plus all the other running costs. They haven't gone up to lose money, & must be confident that the crowds will stay high enough to break even at least. They misjudged it the last time though.The race night is probably their biggest worry.Good luck to them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 If spectators don’t turn up in sufficient numbers at Leicester on an “off night “ doesn’t matter whether they have experience running in the prem at other tracks. Wonder what persuaded them to risk their money as a very successful outfit in the CL to join the failing “Premier” league . Ego? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: If spectators don’t turn up in sufficient numbers at Leicester on an “off night “ doesn’t matter whether they have experience running in the prem at other tracks. Wonder what persuaded them to risk their money as a very successful outfit in the CL to join the failing “Premier” league . Ego? Ambition TV money Fed up with 60+ home wins Getting the best riders possible racing there Exposure for sponsors Not saying everything in the Prem garden is rosy but is it 'failing' any more than the second tier? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W9 Lion Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Ambition TV money Fed up with 60+ home wins Getting the best riders possible racing there Exposure for sponsors Not saying everything in the Prem garden is rosy but is it 'failing' any more than the second tier? And the key one based on the initial press release of not having to go up against the SGP, City or Tigers being televised on Saturday late afternoon/evening which dented attendance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 13 hours ago, W9 Lion said: The car park is not owned by Leicester Speedway I don't think anything at Beaumont Park is owned by Leicester Speedway. It's owned by Leicester City Council and leased to David Helmsley who sub leases parts to Leicester Speedway. I'm sure Mr Helmsley wouldn't object to holes in his car park being filled in by Leicester Speedway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 15 hours ago, Robbee said: Not sure where they could be situated - but we could do with more seats / better 'grandstand' ?? Swindon have a new stand in storage somewhere they won't be using. Allegedly. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionsFan Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 Last time they were in the top league they were under different management/ownership and had a weak team. If the rumoured team is correct, I can see them being competitive with a fair chance of the play offs. The club seems to be on a more secure financial footing than it was last time: the fact they are spending money on the track and stadium this winter shows that. I also think running on a Thursday rather than a Monday (as last time) will lead to better crowds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuvnor Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 12 hours ago, Teromaafan said: Sounds good in theory, but too many of the riders doubling up rely on it to make the sport pay. Time to give them a shock then. There will always be those willing to ride. There won’t always be those willing to watch. Riders have had the sport over a barrel for some time here. The rules have allowed it to happen. It should be one club per rider in the UK. If you can’t pay the mortgage with that then get good enough to ride abroad also or get a job to supplement your hobby. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, The Dog said: Swindon have a new stand in storage somewhere they won't be using. Allegedly. What about their double decker hospitality suite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Fromafar said: They misjudged it the last time though.The race night is probably their biggest worry.Good luck to them though. Last time it wasn't "they", it was "he" (sorry - haven't been trained in woke-speak!), and he did it too soon, was generally shafted by the other clubs, made too many enemies, and made outrageously bogus claims about the "product". All rounded-off by a verbal assault on a referee. Hopefully this time those mistakes and pitfalls will be avoided. Buying better track equipment and sorting out the drains and lights sounds like a good start, as does signing a top rider to start. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Big Al said: Last time it wasn't "they", it was "he" (sorry - haven't been trained in woke-speak!), and he did it too soon, was generally shafted by the other clubs, made too many enemies, and made outrageously bogus claims about the "product". All rounded-off by a verbal assault on a referee. Hopefully this time those mistakes and pitfalls will be avoided. Buying better track equipment and sorting out the drains and lights sounds like a good start, as does signing a top rider to start. Why didn’t the crowds turn up though,or did they but “he” couldn’t run a raffle.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, The Dog said: Swindon have a new stand in storage somewhere they won't be using. Allegedly. I didn't realise Beaumont Park was only 45 minutes from Swindon centre?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Why didn’t the crowds turn up though,or did they but “he” couldn’t run a raffle.! Because generally it was all a bit crap. Long drawn out meetings, sun delays, tractor racing, a crap track and a p1ss poor team. While much of that still applies, the team has been successful on track since the arrival of the special one, and the track has improved immeasurably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 3 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: If spectators don’t turn up in sufficient numbers at Leicester on an “off night “ doesn’t matter whether they have experience running in the prem at other tracks. Wonder what persuaded them to risk their money as a very successful outfit in the CL to join the failing “Premier” league . Ego? Probably a bit of Bates bravado as he's on the BSPL Executive Board! Has to be seen to 'do his bit' to 'strengthen' the Prem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Probably a bit of Bates bravado as he's on the BSPL Executive Board! Has to be seen to 'do his bit' to 'strengthen' the Prem. Yeah it’s a bit of “join the club”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Fromafar said: They misjudged it the last time though.The race night is probably their biggest worry.Good luck to them though. Bates wasn't the promoter last time. As you say, good luck to them. I also think they will get more away fans next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTFC LION Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Happy Hunter said: I don't think anything at Beaumont Park is owned by Leicester Speedway. It's owned by Leicester City Council and leased to David Helmsley who sub leases parts to Leicester Speedway. I'm sure Mr Helmsley wouldn't object to holes in his car park being filled in by Leicester Speedway! You are correct in what you say, but the car park is not included, also it is used 7 days a week by 2 other companies, I would imagine they pay for the privilege of use, so my question to you would be why should it fall on the speedway to repair it or pay for it? I have filled in many pot holes in the car park In the past, all free of charge and all in my spare time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Fromafar said: Why didn’t the crowds turn up though,or did they but “he” couldn’t run a raffle.! The team struggled and it just went further downhill after Doyle realised he needed to get out. Just a very poor "product" which people walked away from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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