old bob at herne bay Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 Agree that more forceful control of fixtures needs to be imposed on clubs to ensure we are not trying to race in early winter. Forfeiting matches with 1 point per club for cancelled meetings after a cut off date. Banning testimonial meetings until after cut off dates as these should be “filler fixtures “ . Running meetings every week throughout the summer with no breaks for non speedway excuses ( local football matches , etc ) Leicester speedway clearly need to undertake and invest in some improvement works to their track drainage system before next season. Having to drive water bowsers along the already sodden track to empty the drainage sump seems a recipe for disaster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, Trackrat said: No problem if they scratch the first leg scores. Would make sense, but probably won't happen, not really Poole's fault, they've run there leg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: So as far as any track advantage to either team, is it only Ben and Zach Cook that have never ridden KL? Asking for a friend........ My friend just informed that the Cooks don't seem to have gone to well at Leicester this season. Ben has averaged 2.85 and Zach 2.50 Edited November 2, 2022 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Well I should be shocked. Not at the obvious decision to use a different venue when the track couldn’t be fixed, but to use Kings Lynn? It’s a 5 hour 30 minute drive from Poole with one stop. Put it on a Friday with extra heavy traffic and it’s up to a 7 hour trip up. I have driven it many times in the past. Add in the price of fuel and that’s £150, plus £20 entry. Plus food. £180 for a trip up from Poole for the day. Rob is now not going and I would be surprised if there is no more than 30 Poole fans in attendance. Compared to the 300+ who would have been at the original running if it hadn’t been for the weather. But why on earth Kings Lynn? Poole fans have an easier trip to Belle Vue Manchester, at the other end of the country, then KL. We can get to BV in 4.30 mins, albeit slower on a Friday. Why wasn’t Oxford asked? Two hours from Poole, and less than that from Leicester. Oxford is closer to Leicester than Kings Lynn. Be lucky if there is 500 in attendance. Possibly because Buster is doing it at "preferential rates" and there's more than 50/50 chance it will go ahead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 3 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Wow, even though I was calling for a possible change of venue if Leicester were struggling to dry the track out. Thought they would at least attempt Friday at Leicester first. Wouldn't have thought KL though! I thought maybe BV or Peterborough. BV (especially) and Peterboro would charge big, big rentals for use of their stadia -- the clubs based there don't have any control over what has to be paid out -- presumably Buster is prepared to donate KL as a venue, to help get the season completed? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 21 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Don't think so, Drew has had 8 rides there for 1pt Against a team who rides there most weeks though! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: My friend just informed that the Cooks don't seem to have gone to well at Leicester this season. Ben has averaged 2.85 and Zach 2.50 And yet we have only lost there by 2 and 6 this season. The 2 point loss more recent one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 Not deal.Let’s just hope it’s goes ahead and is a decent match.May the best Team win.It is what it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 It isn't a neutral track. Leicester are temporarily homeless and so have had to borrow a home venue. The notion of turning it into a one-off final is completely gypit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 I don't think anybody is taking this seriously anymore apart from Poole fans 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chris116 said: A number of people have said about the lack of organisation and control from the management. The problem is that the management are some of the promoters who will only act for the benefit of their team and not the benefit of the sport. Until there is a genuine control board who are totally independent the sport will continue to shoot itself in the foot. Aren't the two promoters involved in this part of the "top table"? If so, heaven help the sport.... Fans will have spent literally millions across the country paying to watch the "qualifiers" of this competition and, now, all for what? How hard can it be to run a sport properly? Many, many others do seem to able to do so, and even do it well... Just two nights needed to run a final at their own tracks and they couldn't do it... Both had their semi final meetings done by the end of September and Instead of running the "flagship competition", other matches have taken place of a lesser level..... That isn't "being unlucky with the weather"... That is simply poor organisation... If those who run the sport don't take it seriously enough to organise and prioritise their biggest competition, then why should the fans? As for next year? Does anyone seriously think it will be any different? There does seem to always be an "insurmountable something" to overcome doesn't there...? Lets hope they run the final as a one off and they get enough fans from East Anglia who may want a "final fix" of the season to go... Edited November 2, 2022 by mikebv 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 Absolutely farcical situation, not Poole's fault or Leicesters. Only in British speedway 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) Fair play to BBC South Today. Yesterday they said about the final being at Leicester on Friday. Today I didn't think they were going to mention the change of venue, but they did, right at the end of the sport section! Edited November 2, 2022 by lisa-colette 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Well I should be shocked. Not at the obvious decision to use a different venue when the track couldn’t be fixed, but to use Kings Lynn? It’s a 5 hour 30 minute drive from Poole with one stop. Put it on a Friday with extra heavy traffic and it’s up to a 7 hour trip up. I have driven it many times in the past. Add in the price of fuel and that’s £150, plus £20 entry. Plus food. £180 for a trip up from Poole for the day. Rob is now not going and I would be surprised if there is no more than 30 Poole fans in attendance. Compared to the 300+ who would have been at the original running if it hadn’t been for the weather. But why on earth Kings Lynn? Poole fans have an easier trip to Belle Vue Manchester, at the other end of the country, then KL. We can get to BV in 4.30 mins, albeit slower on a Friday. Why wasn’t Oxford asked? Two hours from Poole, and less than that from Leicester. Oxford is closer to Leicester than Kings Lynn. Be lucky if there is 500 in attendance. Im not a well travelled man, unlike yourself. But my mate Google tells me...... Stadium to stadium Poole to Leicester is 196 miles (3h 28 mins via M1, M3). Or 177 miles ( 3h 30 mins via M25, M3) Stadium to stadium Poole to Lynn 220 miles ( 3h,58 mins or via M25, M3 4h02 mins) On paper that isn't much difference in time or cost..? Again stadium to stadium Leicester to Lynn 76 miles. Leicester to Oxford 80 miles. Bearing in mind Poole have had their home leg advantage, their fans have enjoyed the home leg, and Poole have made their £££££ ... And you are moaning about driving a few more miles and there might only be 30 Poole fans there.. Your only concerned about how many Poole fans will be there to cheer you on, not about the money Leicester will loose or the lack of support they might have. Ford cancelled the coaches didn't he. I know he lost some money cancelling them, but the money he must of made enough through the season with all your fans attending. Leicester can have" their" leg wherever suits them, and Poole and their fans will have to suck it up sunshine..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 At least we'll get Zach's thoughts on everything as he is interviewed live on tonight's Piratecast from 7.30pm. Watch it on you-tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 Sometimes, the way the sport is ran in the UK, it is probably a good thing so relatively few attend it, and it gets minor wider media coverage... But, on the flip side... Do relatively so few attend it, and it gets minor wider media coverage, due to the way it is ran? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Im not a well travelled man, unlike yourself. But my mate Google tells me...... Stadium to stadium Poole to Leicester is 196 miles (3h 28 mins via M1, M3). Or 177 miles ( 3h 30 mins via M25, M3) Stadium to stadium Poole to Lynn 220 miles ( 3h,58 mins or via M25, M3 4h02 mins) On paper that isn't much difference in time or cost..? Again stadium to stadium Leicester to Lynn 76 miles. Leicester to Oxford 80 miles. Bearing in mind Poole have had their home leg advantage, their fans have enjoyed the home leg, and Poole have made their £££££ ... And you are moaning about driving a few more miles and there might only be 30 Poole fans there.. Your only concerned about how many Poole fans will be there to cheer you on, not about the money Leicester will loose or the lack of support they might have. Ford cancelled the coaches didn't he. I know he lost some money cancelling them, but the money he must of made enough through the season with all your fans attending. Leicester can have" their" leg wherever suits them, and Poole and their fans will have to suck it up sunshine..... Don't let the facts get in the way of what Shovlar posts,he's already been called out by Leicester track man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Im not a well travelled man, unlike yourself. But my mate Google tells me...... Stadium to stadium Poole to Leicester is 196 miles (3h 28 mins via M1, M3). Or 177 miles ( 3h 30 mins via M25, M3) Stadium to stadium Poole to Lynn 220 miles ( 3h,58 mins or via M25, M3 4h02 mins) On paper that isn't much difference in time or cost..? Again stadium to stadium Leicester to Lynn 76 miles. Leicester to Oxford 80 miles. Bearing in mind Poole have had their home leg advantage, their fans have enjoyed the home leg, and Poole have made their £££££ ... And you are moaning about driving a few more miles and there might only be 30 Poole fans there.. Your only concerned about how many Poole fans will be there to cheer you on, not about the money Leicester will loose or the lack of support they might have. Ford cancelled the coaches didn't he. I know he lost some money cancelling them, but the money he must of made enough through the season with all your fans attending. Leicester can have" their" leg wherever suits them, and Poole and their fans will have to suck it up sunshine..... If you think fans can drive from Poole to Kings Lynn on a Friday afternoon in 4 hours 2 mins you are living in cloud cuckoo land. Clearly you don’t drive much as Leicester to Oxford is much quicker than to Kings Lynn, which is in the backside of nowhere. Leicester, M1 down to Northampton, dual carriageway past Silverstone down to m40. Then down A 34 to Oxford. Easy run. From Poole, through New Forest, M27, M3, A34, Stadium. Of all the teams to get to from Poole, Kings Lynn is one of the worst, with the exception of Scottish clubs and teams in the NE. It’s quicker to get to BV and Sheffield than KL. I should know I have driven to KL many, many times. And coming back no doubt Poole fans will suffer Road closures and detours. Still, the time will wiz by if we have a title to celebrate! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, lewy said: Don't let the facts get in the way of what Shovlar posts,he's already been called out by Leicester track man. 19 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Im not a well travelled man, unlike yourself. But my mate Google tells me...... Stadium to stadium Poole to Leicester is 196 miles (3h 28 mins via M1, M3). Or 177 miles ( 3h 30 mins via M25, M3) Stadium to stadium Poole to Lynn 220 miles ( 3h,58 mins or via M25, M3 4h02 mins) On paper that isn't much difference in time or cost..? Again stadium to stadium Leicester to Lynn 76 miles. Leicester to Oxford 80 miles. Bearing in mind Poole have had their home leg advantage, their fans have enjoyed the home leg, and Poole have made their £££££ ... And you are moaning about driving a few more miles and there might only be 30 Poole fans there.. Your only concerned about how many Poole fans will be there to cheer you on, not about the money Leicester will loose or the lack of support they might have. Ford cancelled the coaches didn't he. I know he lost some money cancelling them, but the money he must of made enough through the season with all your fans attending. Leicester can have" their" leg wherever suits them, and Poole and their fans will have to suck it up sunshine..... To be fair if you set the time to arrive at Lynn at 18:30 on Friday the estimated travel time is between 4hrs 20mins and 6hrs 50mins! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, iainb said: To be fair if you set the time to arrive at Lynn at 18:30 on Friday the estimated travel time is between 4hrs 20mins and 6hrs 50mins! Poole fans need to leave by 11 am latest to make sure they make it to Kings Lynn for 6pm and that’s with no stops. It’s an horrendous journey on a weekday. But on a Friday a couple of minor crashes and the usual huge traffic jambs on M3 and M25 make it a real chore and stressful journey. Rather leave at 9 am and get there early than be under pressure to make heat 1. Just as quick to get to Redcar. Edited November 2, 2022 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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