Arthur54 Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 46 minutes ago, iainb said: I'm a mile from the track... currently raining Still think 2nd leg could be held down here, not a problem for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 20 hours ago, iainb said: I'm not sure the sport can afford that many straws IF Saturday is Off and no chance of Sunday and as Monday day 31 October is official season end they could get a great crowd for the PL Pairs on Monday. Declare CL Champions and Runners Up on final League Table and present Awards before the PL Pairs. Job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, HGould said: IF Saturday is Off and no chance of Sunday and as Monday day 31 October is official season end they could get a great crowd for the PL Pairs on Monday. Declare CL Champions and Runners Up on final League Table and present Awards before the PL Pairs. Job done But precedent would suggest that if 2nd leg can't be run the result is declared based on the one leg held. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, arnieg said: But precedent would suggest that if 2nd leg can't be run the result is declared based on the one leg held. Precedent suggests we run into November... like Poole last year and Sheffield this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, iainb said: Precedent suggests we run into November... like Poole last year and Sheffield this year Or December?? Edited October 28, 2022 by arnieg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 There is an expert on preparing clay based tracks around 70 miles away.....get him over to sort it out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, iainb said: I'm a mile from the track... currently raining Depends how much rain we had. With the sun now out and temperature rising, hopefully today they can get machinery onto track and remove the sludge. The problem will then be more rain forecast for overnight again and hope the drains aren't clagged up. Hopefully in the absence of SD somebody suitably experienced is directing things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 We don’t want a one legged final. If the Leicester track remains unfit then use another track close by or use Belle Vue, which was rideable last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: We don’t want a one legged final. If the Leicester track remains unfit then use another track close by or use Belle Vue, which was rideable last night. Agreed! if there is no second leg, the League Table should take precedence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gambo said: Agreed! if there is no second leg, the League Table should take precedence! That isn’t going to happen and you know it. The rules are clear. All teams signed up for playoffs. Pressure is on Leicester to solve their issues with the track. Everyone wants them to sort it so the league can be settled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Gambo said: Agreed! if there is no second leg, the League Table should take precedence! Definitely the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: That isn’t going to happen and you know it. The rules are clear. All teams signed up for playoffs. Pressure is on Leicester to solve their issues with the track. Everyone wants them to sort it so the league can be settled. The League WAS settled! Leicester topped the League. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 I'm no Poole fan, but there's no way the result can be declared based on the league table at this stage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Gambo said: Agreed! if there is no second leg, the League Table should take precedence! Of course it shouldn't. If that was the case, any side who tops the table but loses heavily in the first leg away could just decide not to stage their own leg and be declared champions. If any side fails to stage their leg of the final, then the title should automatically go to the other team. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Grachan said: Of course it shouldn't. If that was the case, any side who tops the table but loses heavily in the first leg away could just decide not to stage their own leg and be declared champions. If any side fails to stage their leg of the final, then the title should automatically go to the other team. So the 'first leg' team just keeps delaying their match until it is impossible to fit in the 2nd leg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: Definitely the way to go. But by doing so Leicester can just say the track is not fit for the foreseeable future so we win by us (Leicester) defaulting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Grachan said: Of course it shouldn't. If that was the case, any side who tops the table but loses heavily in the first leg away could just decide not to stage their own leg and be declared champions. If any side fails to stage their leg of the final, then the title should automatically go to the other team. Spoken with common sense, unlike a few on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 Basically, the way I see it, the following should be applied in order of preference... 1) Leicester host second leg at their own track 2) Second leg hosted at a neutral venue 3) Poole host second leg 4) Second leg not staged, result declared from result of first leg 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 Just now, Grachan said: Of course it shouldn't. If that was the case, any side who tops the table but loses heavily in the first leg away could just decide not to stage their own leg and be declared champions. If any side fails to stage their leg of the final, then the title should automatically go to the other team. I agree, in these circumstances the final league table has no value in deciding the champions. If we go by Mr Shovlar's reports as truthful and accurate, then a decision has to be reached as to whether or not Leicester is likely to be capable of staging this match within a reasonable timescale (I suggest that by 31 October is adjudged to be "reasonable"). This would require an independent assessment to be carried out by a person of relevant expertise appointed by the SCB for this as a one-off task and for his decision to be final. Such assessment would need to be carried out and completed by no later than 9.00 am on Saturday. If he decides the Leicester track is unfit, and to be in such a state that, with likelihood of further rain across the next few days (i.e. until 31 Oct), then Leicester would have to declare their stadium as unavailable for use for the foreseeable future, and would be obliged to seek an alternative venue to stage the match within a timescale specified by the SCB, failing which the championship would be awarded based on the result of the completed first leg at Poole. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Hamish McRaker said: a decision has to be reached as to whether or not Leicester is likely to be capable of staging this match within a reasonable timescale (I suggest that by 31 October is adjudged to be "reasonable"). 4th of November was "reasonable" last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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