arnieg Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: Ipswich had very little misfortune last Thursday. They had the misfortune to be not very good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, GAH said: make sure you have a big box of kleenex by your side Write off Sheffield at your peril. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 39 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Never put your #2 in heat 15, it very rarely works! I think he got the nod on the fact that he should of got a paid win in heat 11,but for some bizare reason the ref gave it to Morris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 52 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Never put your #2 in heat 15, it very rarely works! Incredible mistake by Stead, play off semi final your number 1 has 8 points from his last 3 rides and you don't put him in heat 15. If wolves mange to pull it back it's a sackable type mistake (unless holder had an issue we are not aware of). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, The Third Man said: But they are now more or less guaranteed 15 from Lambert, they have not had that all season When was the last time Lambert visited Owlerton (or less likely Monmore). I would suspect he's never visited Owlerton in the top tier of British Speedway, prior to last night Lambert was last at the NSS in March for the Peter Craven memorial and only scored 7! Fricke and Klindt (who was booked as guest) scored more that night, so going on the form shown that night the Aces were weaker last night with Lambert in the team. According to Speedway Stats Lambert last visited Owlerton in 2017 and averaged 6.40 from 2 meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Col said: When was the last time Lambert visited Owlerton (or less likely Monmore). I would suspect he's never visited Owlerton in the top tier of British Speedway, prior to last night Lambert was last at the NSS in March for the Peter Craven memorial and only scored 7! Fricke and Klindt (who was booked as guest) scored more that night, so going on the form shown that night the Aces were weaker last night with Lambert in the team. According to Speedway Stats Lambert last visited Owlerton in 2017 and averaged 6.40 from 2 meetings. He rode Wolverhampton in 2019 and scored 5+1 and 4 in two meetings there. Could have been better to use a Chris Harris instead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 hours ago, GAH said: who has wrote them off it was ment for him watching the 2nd leg at sheffield He said he would be supporting Sheffield against the cheating aces, nothing was mentioned about the semi final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Col said: When was the last time Lambert visited Owlerton (or less likely Monmore). I would suspect he's never visited Owlerton in the top tier of British Speedway, prior to last night Lambert was last at the NSS in March for the Peter Craven memorial and only scored 7! Fricke and Klindt (who was booked as guest) scored more that night, so going on the form shown that night the Aces were weaker last night with Lambert in the team. According to Speedway Stats Lambert last visited Owlerton in 2017 and averaged 6.40 from 2 meetings. You aren't comparing like for like, Lambert is a completely different rider, and he has no problems with big tracks in the GPs, did you not see how much faster he was than anyone else last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Col said: When was the last time Lambert visited Owlerton (or less likely Monmore). I would suspect he's never visited Owlerton in the top tier of British Speedway, prior to last night Lambert was last at the NSS in March for the Peter Craven memorial and only scored 7! Fricke and Klindt (who was booked as guest) scored more that night, so going on the form shown that night the Aces were weaker last night with Lambert in the team. According to Speedway Stats Lambert last visited Owlerton in 2017 and averaged 6.40 from 2 meetings. Lambert rides Owlerton fairly well - I saw him ride for Newcastle there about 2015 or 16 - at the time he was an up and coming rider who I could tell from that night would go on to do great things! I even had a discussion with some of the Tigers fans about him - he come up against Garrity 3 times that night and lost each time but was close - the locals were crowing a bit - I said to them lets see where they both are on 5 years!! I rest my case Edited October 4, 2022 by GeneralMelchett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 hours ago, GeneralMelchett said: Lambert rides Owlerton fairly well And does Fricke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 7 hours ago, The Third Man said: You aren't comparing like for like, Lambert is a completely different rider, and he has no problems with big tracks in the GPs, did you not see how much faster he was than anyone else last night Just trying to compare scores at a track. Fricke & Klindt scored more than Lambert when all three riders rode the NSS this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 11:20 PM, Beowulf said: Congratulations to Sheffield on a good performance. I will be supporting the Tigers against the cheating Aces. Gracious in defeat as always Explain the difference between Lambert replacing Fricke in 2022 to Woffinden replacing Kylamkorpi in 2016 please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Col said: And does Fricke? Seen Fricke once at Owlerton this year he got 3 I think - two duck eggs in heats 1 and 6 On balance I’d say Lambert the stronger option scrap that Fricke got 9 from 5 (1,1,3,2,2) I confused him with Sam Masters above who got 3 (R,R,2,1) for Wolves in their 44-46 defeat! still think Lambert the better option (just) Edited October 4, 2022 by GeneralMelchett Correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 4 hours ago, GAH said: Lambert to have last laugh ? I’d say so last time I heard JG was residing at her (late) majesties pleasure whilst Lambert has done ok for himself in speedway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Col said: Gracious in defeat as always Explain the difference between Lambert replacing Fricke in 2022 to Woffinden replacing Kylamkorpi in 2016 please. Easy, Tai came in way before the end of the season. 5 home meetings prior to playoffs, not sure how many away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Col said: Gracious in defeat as always Explain the difference between Lambert replacing Fricke in 2022 to Woffinden replacing Kylamkorpi in 2016 please. The very obvious difference is that the Woffinden team change was entirely within the rules s they were at the time whereas the Lambert one took place under a rulebook that supposedly was written to prevent such changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, arnieg said: The very obvious difference is that the Woffinden team change was entirely within the rules s they were at the time whereas the Lambert one took place under a rulebook that supposedly was written to prevent such changes. Woffinden rode league matches not just play off matches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Col said: Gracious in defeat as always Explain the difference between Lambert replacing Fricke in 2022 to Woffinden replacing Kylamkorpi in 2016 please. Easy Woffinden rode 6 league matches before play offs not like Lambert brought in as a ringer for half a semi final and final. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wolfie456 said: Easy Woffinden rode 6 league matches before play offs not like Lambert brought in as a ringer for half a semi final and final. No one is a ringer but lets look at it another way Kylmakorpi a third heat leader just back from injury set to drop to a number 4 on the next green sheet 4 days after swap replaced mid Aug by the reigning world champion after one of his other teams has finished their season. Fricke reigning world pairs champ, G P rider and winner and Belle vue number one with an 8 plus British average out with multiple injuries. Replaced in Sep/Oct by Lambert World number 5 and fellow GP rider with a 7 plus British average after one of his other teams has finished their season. Both changes within the rules and both are fine. But if you asked a non speedway person which of these swaps looks like a ringer which one would he say. Edited October 5, 2022 by B.V 72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, B.V 72 said: No one is a ringer but lets look at it another way Kylmakorpi a third heat leader just back from injury set to drop to a number 4 on the next green sheet 4 days after swap replaced mid Aug by the reigning world champion after one of his other teams has finished their season. Fricke reigning world pairs champ, G P rider and winner and Belle vue number one with an 8 plus British average out with multiple injuries. Replaced in Sep/Oct by Lambert World number 5 and fellow GP rider with a 7 plus British average after one of his other teams has finished their season. Both changes within the rules and both are fine. But if you asked a non speedway person which of these swaps looks like a ringer which one would he say. Lambert is not the same rider he was the last time he rode here, where was he in the GPs the last time he rode in the UK, where was he this year, that's the comparison to make to show how far he has progressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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