BV66 Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Another decision damaging the integrity of speedway. Even if it is within the rules, and they normally can be adjusted to suit, to be allowed to sign a rider who has not ridden over here all year is wrong. If Belle Vue do go on to win the title, it will be a hollow victory, and that is from a BV fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: So to summarise, Belle Vue read the rulebook wrong, and BSPL/SCB refused the change. But Robert Lambert complains about it on social media, at which point they don't want to upset him in case he quits Team GB and have now broken their own rules. Does this pretty much sum it up? No Belle Vue read the rule book correctly, lambert was approved, some complained and BSPL pulled the approval, Belle Vue appealed with a legal team and won the appeal, as the read the rules correctly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) Got to love Speedway and its rule book, eh? What is the point of having a rule that specifically prevents this if it is then overridden? Yes, there is also a "long-term injury" rule allowing signings, but that is relevant to the transfer-windows, not the end of the season, although I'm sure they will quote this rule as the reason it was allowed. In which case, why disallow it in the first place? Still, from a neutral point of view, having Lambert ride makes the meeting more appealing to watch. So why not just include the "long-term injury" rule in the "no signings after August 31" rule. Then there's no argument? Edited October 3, 2022 by Grachan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: No Belle Vue read the rule book correctly, lambert was approved, some complained and BSPL pulled the approval, Belle Vue appealed with a legal team and won the appeal, as the read the rules correctly They didn't read the rules correctly. The rules could be interpreted one of two ways. Same old same old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 32 minutes ago, SPD444 said: It’s been confirmed on the speedwaygb website that we have signed Lambert and he rides tonight. Wow Don't bother me but how is that right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, lucifer sam said: So to summarise, Belle Vue read the rulebook wrong, and BSPL/SCB refused the change. But Robert Lambert complains about it on social media, at which point they don't want to upset him in case he quits Team GB and have now broken their own rules. Does this pretty much sum it up? Nope, seems like a lawyer got involved and proved that the management committee can't interpret their own rulebook properly. Seeing as they haven't been fit for purpose for years that's hardly a surprise. Edited October 3, 2022 by Bagpuss 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 BSF meltdown . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, Grachan said: They didn't read the rules correctly. The rules could be interpreted one of two ways. Same old same old. Belle Vue believed the rules allowed them a replacement a lawyer proved it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 41 minutes ago, ABS said: 7.61 - Kurtz rides at 1 & Lambert at 5 Blimey thought it was higher than that, he must have had a bad season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Let's hope tonights match doesn't get rained off . It should put a few more bums on seats. Be good to see Lambert racing in this country again. With luck the situation will be brought up at the Tory conference in Birmingham, and Truss and KamiKwasi will support the decision and will forbid any U turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 35 minutes ago, Trackrat said: Thought he would of joined Paul being the best team and all? I think in our current form we would give a few Premiership teams a run for their money, maybe not Belle Vue though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 45 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: Thing is. Belle Vue not broke any rules. A good lawyer proved that this weekend Only earlier in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Great to see a rider like Lambert back in British speedway absolutely- but if he had Polish fixtures were would he be were was he when the British final was run ? and come next March will he have signed up for a full season ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 I would imagine Belle Vue want Sheffield to get to the final as Lambert hasn't been great at Monmore Green in the past and I doubt it suits him any better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 This has just handed the title to Belle Vue, who ever gets to the final with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Third Man said: This has just handed the title to Belle Vue, who ever gets to the final with them Not sure about that they could pick guests to suit the tracks, if they meet Sheffield then that would probably be fine although I doubt Lambert has ever ridden at Sheffield although the track should suit him but if they meet Wolves having Lambert could be a problem at Monmore whereas they could have picked a track specialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, foreverblue said: Not sure about that they could pick guests to suit the tracks, if they meet Sheffield then that would probably be fine although I doubt Lambert has ever ridden at Sheffield although the track should suit him but if they meet Wolves having Lambert could be a problem at Monmore whereas they could have picked a track specialist. I think he's probably ridden there plenty of times, 2019 for a start. Plus those years he did in the second division as a teenager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 58 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: No Belle Vue read the rule book correctly, lambert was approved, some complained and BSPL pulled the approval, Belle Vue appealed with a legal team and won the appeal, as the read the rules correctly You seem to have forgotten the rulebook is on the SCB website and anyone read it. The rulebook can be ambiguous - in this case I wouldn't say it was. The cut-off deadline is quite clear, while any reference to long-term injuries as in regards to how many times you can make changes within the transfer window. Belle Vue Speedway are a credit to the sport, while Robert Lambert is a terrific rider, but there's a rulebook to be followed. This is the equivalent of Man City signing Messi just for the Champions League final and makes speedway look stupid. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Nope, seems like a lawyer got involved and proved that the management committee can't interpret their own rulebook properly. Seeing as they haven't been fot for purpose for years that's hardly a surprise. Agree. The rule makers should of hired someone competent to write the rulebook in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 41 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: Belle Vue believed the rules allowed them a replacement a lawyer proved it. I suspect it was more likely that a lawyer proved that the rules couldn't be proven to disallow them a replacement rather than proving they allowed them one. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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