Tric trac Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 42 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Have a feeling the Oxford meeting was not against Swindon, but the away team won. If someone has the 1975 fixture list this can be looked up. Edit the sad part of me has just looked it up and it was 1976 when Swindon won at White City 35-43. The Oxford meeting must be a figment of my imagination as Oxford didn’t run the same day. We are talking way back when I was a 17 year old lad. White City v Swindon Monday 19th April 1976 (Gulf Oil British League) WhiteCity 1.DagLovaas 2. Trevor Geer 3. Gordon Kennett 4. Richard Hellsen 5. Richard Greer 6. Neil Cameron 7. Paul Gachet Swindon 1. Martin Ashby 2. Norman Hunter 3. Bob Kilby 4. Bobby McNeil 5. Soren Karlsson 6. Geoff Bouchard 7. David Ashby Ht 01: M.Ashby, Lovaas, Geer, Hunter Ht 02: Bouchard, Gachet, D.Ashby, Cameron (ret) Ht 03: Greer, McNeil, Hellsen, Karlsson Ht 04: Kennett, Kilby, D.Ashby, Cameron (ret) Ht 05: M.Ashby, Hellsen, Hunter, Greer Ht 06: Kilby, Lovaas, Geer, Bouchard (ef) Ht 07: Karlsson, McNeil, Gachet, Kennett (ef) Ht 08: Geer, Hunter, D.Ashby, Lovaas (ef) Ht 09: Kilby, Greer, Bouchard, Hellsen Ht 10: Kennett, McNeil, Karlsson, Lovaas Ht 11: Kennett, M.Ashby, Greer, Hunter Ht 12: Kilby, Karlsson, Hellsen, Lovaas Ht 13: Kennett, M.Ashby, Greer, McNeil 35-43 I think white city took over from Oxford and only lasted a few seasons. Soren karlsson brings back memories and soren sjosten riding for Birmingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Tric trac said: I think white city took over from Oxford and only lasted a few seasons. Soren karlsson brings back memories and soren sjosten riding for Birmingham. Yes Oxford's British League License was transfered to White City when Cowley looked to be developed when sold by "Bristol Stadium Ltd" (Clark Osborne...recognise the name?) until the SOS Committee saved the stadium and Oxford ran in the New National League. White City ran as a league team for three season before transferring to Eastboune (Bob Dugard's other interest) although remained a big meeting venue until it was finally demolished in 1984. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbuck Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) I can remember visiting Swindon on the Birmingham Supporters' Club coach one Saturday night in 1957. and watching the Brummies battered to the tune of 77-19 and just to compound our embarrassment, the Birmingham Team Manager didn't get to the stadium until the second half scratch races were underway, and had the team's race jackets with him, so our team had to race without wearing any body colours! Monday's Daily Express carried the back page story that the Referee Cecil Telling had sent a report to the Speedway Control Board suggesting that Birmingham should be thrown out of the league. Ironically, in the return match at Perry Barr on July 31st 1957, the Brummies became the first team to defeat Swindon in a league fixture in what was to be the Robins Championship winning season - only for the Brummies Promoter Les Marshall to come to the microphone immediately after the last heat to inform supporters that he was shutting down the Perry Barr track and withdrawing the team from the league. This was the last league match to be staged at this particular Perry Barr track for the next 50 years (although there was of course, racing at the other Perry Barr Stadium between 1971 and 1984, and at also at the Bordesley Green track.I vowed to never set foot into Perry Barr Stadium until speedway was restored there, and I stuck to that until it did come back in 2007. My condolences to all Swindon supporters on the loss of their team and track. I wish you all every success in your efforts to get both of them back. Edited October 9, 2022 by brianbuck 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) On 10/3/2022 at 3:13 AM, auntie doris said: The best race I ever saw at the Shabbey was Swindon v Exeter late 60s, Briggo and Crashby neck and neck for 4 laps, Martin winning by a few inches. Probably 28th June, 1969, in heat 12. Strangely enough, Martin missed the BL clash in 1968, and both Martin and Briggo missed the meeting in 1970 (and they were the three years he rode for Exeter). Edited October 9, 2022 by chunky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted October 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 10/6/2022 at 10:55 PM, Steve Shovlar said: Pretty sure I was at that meeting. Went on the coach to an Oxford meeting in the morning and then onto White City. Two meetings in one day. Had a running race around the white City track if I recall. I remember that well Steve. I think you ran either bare footed , or at least just with socks on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, EnglishRoundabout said: I remember that well Steve. I think you ran either bare footed , or at least just with socks on! I don't recall that I have to admit...I was a regular at Wood Lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) More memories from the Abbey Finn Thomsen scoring 19 points for Wolves on a oversized engine…. Dennis Sigalos scoring a 15 point max for. Hull from reserve ( never met Kilb). .Einar Kylingstad scoring a 15 point max from reserve for Kings Lynn. Ivan Mauger having a police escort him out of the stadium after fencing Kilb.. Briggo coming back with Hull scoring 11 points after being excluded under the 2 minute rule in heat 1. Edited October 13, 2022 by Sidney the robin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: More memories from the Abbey Finn Thomsen scoring 19 points for Wolves on a oversized engine…. Dennis Sigalos scoring a 15 point max for. Hull from reserve ( never met Kilb). .Einar Kylingstad scoring a 15 point max from reserve for Kings Lynn. Ivan Mauger having a police escort him out of the stadium after fencing Kilb.. Briggo coming back with Hull scoring 11 points after being excluded under the 2 minute rule in heat 1. I was there Sid for Dennis's and Einar's 15 pont maximums. Never a fan of Finn Thomsen (neither was Billy Sanders!) who I saw in one of his first meetings at Monmore Green in 1974. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 GB v USA early 80s, the Brits winning and Bastable scoring a load of points. A lot of Brits supporting the Yanks..never understood that! Mads Korneliussen trying to prevent a Peterborough win in the last heat..tried to fence their Polish rider who just smashed into him. Bits falling off Mads bike on every lap as he gradually lost power Swindon at Reading 2007, half the fans were from Swindon, hundreds there. Leigh Adams Farewell..when Leigh burst through from the back on second bend in final to win the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 26 minutes ago, auntie doris said: GB v USA early 80s, the Brits winning and Bastable scoring a load of points. A lot of Brits supporting the Yanks..never understood that! Mads Korneliussen trying to prevent a Peterborough win in the last heat..tried to fence their Polish rider who just smashed into him. Bits falling off Mads bike on every lap as he gradually lost power Swindon at Reading 2007, half the fans were from Swindon, hundreds there. Leigh Adams Farewell..when Leigh burst through from the back on second bend in final to win the meeting. I attended most of the Test Matches against the Yanks at Swindon and, yes, I also never understood the attitude of the fans. When I asked one fan was told it's because the Yanks are more charismatic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Michael Lee scoring 16 against the yanks in 1981, coming from the back regularly. Rolf Gramstad holding off Ivan Mauger for Swindon against Hull.Egon Muller riding for Coatbridge in 1973 ( he was poor) Reading mullering us at home in 1984 Holloway/ Glanz from reserve doing the damage.That Reading meeting apart from the Mike Keen benefit meeting were the worse conditions i ever saw.The World team cup round at Reading and the 1983 BLRC Belle Vue rival those two meeting's also for horrendous conditions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, steve roberts said: I attended most of the Test Matches against the Yanks at Swindon and, yes, I also never understood the attitude of the fans. When I asked one fan was told it's because the Yanks are more charismatic! More star spangled banners than Union Jacks there..unpatriotic buggers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Michael Lee scoring 16 against the yanks in 1981, coming from the back regularly. Rolf Gramstad holding off Ivan Mauger for Swindon against Hull.Egon Muller riding for Coatbridge in 1973 ( he was poor) Reading mullering us at home in 1984 Holloway/ Glanz from reserve doing the damage.That Reading meeting apart from the Mike Keen benefit meeting were the worse conditions i ever saw.The World team cup round at Reading and the 1983 BLRC Belle Vue rival those two meeting's also for horrendous conditions. I remember the 2012 Grand final against Poole...waterlogged track, only went ahead because cameras were there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Michael Lee scoring 16 against the yanks in 1981, coming from the back regularly. Rolf Gramstad holding off Ivan Mauger for Swindon against Hull.Egon Muller riding for Coatbridge in 1973 ( he was poor) Reading mullering us at home in 1984 Holloway/ Glanz from reserve doing the damage.That Reading meeting apart from the Mike Keen benefit meeting were the worse conditions i ever saw.The World team cup round at Reading and the 1983 BLRC Belle Vue rival those two meeting's also for horrendous conditions. I attended the Mike Keen Testimonial and Dag Lovaas was at his majestic best! Also the World Team Cup when Gordon Kennett rode like a hero when up against Kelly Moran...meeting should never have take place. Under normal conditions England would have breezed thru'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 44 minutes ago, auntie doris said: More star spangled banners than Union Jacks there..unpatriotic buggers It was because they supported the riders in their own teams, I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, steve roberts said: I attended the Mike Keen Testimonial and Dag Lovaas was at his majestic best! Also the World Team Cup when Gordon Kennett rode like a hero when up against Kelly Moran...meeting should never have take place. Under normal conditions England would have breezed thru'! Racers were at Cradley that night, but it was rained-off and we diverted to Swindon on our way home only to find floods of biblical proportions at Blunsdon. Yet the meeting went ahead and Dag was a class apart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 hours ago, arnieg said: Racers were at Cradley that night, but it was rained-off and we diverted to Swindon on our way home only to find floods of biblical proportions at Blunsdon. Yet the meeting went ahead and Dag was a class apart. Dag was awesome in that meeting was Dag like Jan Andersson used to riding on frozen lakes.? I always feel that Dag was like Scott Autrey retired to early he was a class act for Reading , Hackney and Oxford.The heat leader trio of Anders, Dag and the ever improving Geoff Curtis ( RIP) at Reading was very strong. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 6 hours ago, *JJ said: It was because they supported the riders in their own teams, I think? I used to cheer on Hans when riding as an individual but when he put his team Denmark jacket on it was England for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 Vague memories of my first meeting back in 1973 against Belle Vue with both Collins and Morton. Being a bit young, a friend and I died many times rolling down mostly bend 1 after being hit by shale. Swindon were something like this.. Ashby, Hitch, Hunter, Keen, Stangeland, Handley and Leonard. Brian Leanord had magnificent white leathers, but rarely scored a point from memory. Phoned Martin Ashby as a 15 year old and he chatted with me for about half an hour, tried the same a fortnight or so later and he put the phone down on me, can’t blame him really. I loved watching ‘Battling’ Geoff Bouchard, disappointing to see how he was treated. Saw Jan Andersen when his first race from reserve . Rolf Gramstad was one of my all time favourites and I met him near the Paperback Parade shop, long since gone, but opposite Swindon’s main library today. Steen Mastrup was steady too.. We used to stand on the back straight, opposite the start line, it was more expensive to go the other side at the time. They did lovely Cheese & Onions rolls in the back straight stand then. Saw the tests against the USA and Russia too, I remember Kevin Pope scoring a fair few from reserve against the latter. Thought the support for the USA was from their English clubs supporters, sadly.. Too many riders and good nights out to mention, it’s so sad to see it’s finally gone... Back straight bogs excluded.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 11:08 AM, *JJ said: It was because they supported the riders in their own teams, I think? In the early 90's Wolverhampton was like the 51st state.... Monmore had USA flags everywhere, and their fans were often in attendance when England rode against the USA in the Midlands, cheering on their stateside brothers... "Come un Sammoi, an Ronnoi, ya 'orrrll" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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