piepower Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 While i realise it could be very dangerous posting this on here. Id like you to watch video first before commenting about there is no noise no smell its not speedway. Yes it isnt the same and probably never will be , however its hard to get away from all the positive notes i bring to the table with this video. I posted a scene on tiktok a platform where the age is 15-25 most used and got nearly 100k views! this is the same crowd we are missing right now in speedway. Dont think of it as a replacement this of it as a addition for people to get into speedway and hopefully it will make more riders, Have a watch anyway then give your opinions you can put NS for noise and smell if you want but then i want you to put one positive comment that youve seen and has maybe opened your eyes a little bit. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Thanks for that. I cannot understand why anyone would want to leave negative comments. I really appreciate what is being done here. Engine noise certainly doesn’t mix within communities, hence all the opposition to speedway tracks. New tracks just don’t get approval anywhere near houses, and what we have all seen at Swindon where a community was virtually built on top of a track…it was easily seen by all that the speedway racing was going to disappear, and it has. These machine give access to younger ones, give them a start to into speedway, at relatively low cost, the power can be increase easily by software on a mobile phone, so gradual increases are available at any time without large cost increases in changing engine. Great for the times we are living in, and I can’t wait to see how it all develops. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 i think that this is the way to go it will open up more venues and potentially some indoor venues lets hope that this succeeds, and speedway might then have a long-term future, especially if they can sort out some form of artificial surface to race on so that temporary venues could be used 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 For anyone wanting to start out, it seems ideal without the huge ongoing costs. If you had enough people using the bikes, it could be a good addition to a meeting and perhaps that is what speedway needs, the main event with other disciplines alongside. Fortnightly meetings that are more a festival rather than just fifteen heats and then get on your way. As it stands speedway in the U.K. needs to try something new and innovative or simply die a slow death as is the case for the top tier of the sport. A meeting should be an event not an endurance test for the punters. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Great innovation - if this is the only way forward to ensure the future of Speedway - I'm all for it. Tiimes change, and so, sadly, must we. I would, of course, miss the noise, as I already miss the smell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 I posted this a year ago. But tbh i have no idea what happened to the Danish plans for this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) ironically I think it is ideal for starting out whether it will replace existing engines is another matter however it may help reduce cost by giving engine tuners /riders a wakeup call .A possible option for tracks close to housing( ironically I often hear householders actually moan about PA/music between races rather than the bikes ) or possible indoor use as has been said . Edited September 30, 2022 by FAST GATER 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry1603 Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) Great idea, it would bring the sport right up to date, surely attract a younger audience and would fit in with the 'green agenda'. I would have thought that the bikes would be more evenly matched as well, so the racing could improve. Would love it to be trialled after matches next season when possible and slowly integrated into the mainstream sport if it catches on (maybe open meetings to start with) Edited September 30, 2022 by Garry1603 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Never work... The BSP would not be able to source enough extention leads long enough... And even if they did, they would inevitably all get tangled up by the end of lap four.... No doubt it is the future, so no doubt the BSP won't do anything with it... The real opportunity is to source 8 per team and just run then with box standard kit... Move the sport back to ground zero and start again afresh.... Would give a whole new meaning to "Ohm" advantage. ... I'll get me coat.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 2 hours ago, mikebv said: Never work... The BSP would not be able to source enough extention leads long enough... And even if they did, they would inevitably all get tangled up by the end of lap four.... No doubt it is the future, so no doubt the BSP won't do anything with it... The real opportunity is to source 8 per team and just run then with box standard kit... Move the sport back to ground zero and start again afresh.... Would give a whole new meaning to "Ohm" advantage. ... I'll get me coat.... The sad thing is that it could just add another dimension to the racing but the dinosaurs who are in charge really fail to get to grips with the mood of the punters and prefer a ‘take it or leave it’ scenario. Maybe this is the opportunity to start an alternative league to replace the NFL and let those at the Isle of Wight take the initiative and run it thereby offering something different on a U k wide basis. Machines that do not inflict noise pollution and riders who have a level platform in terms of bikes and hence rider skills may come to the fore. It may seem odd but I would prefer to watch Riders on machines that rely on the skills of the racer rather than the power of the machines used by the gate and fly merchants who hang on for dear life to a powerful bike that most have trouble controlling and races/heats that are processional because it all depends on who has the deepest pockets to throw cash at the machine to make it goes faster. Put those guys on a level playing field and let’s see just how good some of the rides really are. it will not sit well with many but the sport needs so much change to survive and something like this offers a faint glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel rather than a train coming the opposite way. BSPL please wake up and anyone who cannot face up to the issues should walk away now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Hawk127 said: Maybe this is the opportunity to start an alternative league to replace the NFL I think that is great idea with the riders having to reach a certain standard before they are allowed to race conventional machines . Edited October 1, 2022 by FAST GATER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) Deleted. Edited September 30, 2022 by Sotonian found answer in video clip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traged Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 E speedway are testing in the Czech republic https://www.motolbc.cz/2022/09/ecka-na-tomickove-memorialu/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piepower Posted October 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 On 9/30/2022 at 9:34 PM, FAST GATER said: I think that is great idea with the riders having to reach a certain standard before they are allowed to race conventional machines . Now that is a good idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 On 9/30/2022 at 5:40 PM, mikebv said: No doubt it is the future, so no doubt the BSP won't do anything with it.. They spent all their money on Gerhard engines, so have got nothing left to invest in these....because Gerhards were the way forward too, back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 As @piepower said this seems perfect for junior level Speedway with riders progressing onto 500cc meths. Buy a standard piece of kit that you can "turn up" as you progress. The authorities have the power at the moment to dictate technical rules regarding the addition of "trick" parts, so if they don't do it at the moment there's nothing to suggest they'd stop riders adding trick parts to these electric bikes if they were to be used as replacements for the 500's. There's also the sound issue, for me that is a massive part of Speedway, often if it doesn't sound fast... it doesn't look fast. Look at F1, since they've moved from the V10 & V8 screamers to the low revving hybrids... it just doesn't sound fast anymore, and they know it! For me I'd be happier watching the seniors on something more like the 250cc machines the SGP3 riders were using, sounded fast, looked fast and the riders seemed to be approaching the limits of their machines so there was more emphasis on the riding skills of the riders to make the difference. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traged Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 https://www.motolbc.cz/2022/10/ecka-v-chaba/?fbclid=IwAR1dC07-8W2CE72tAxUuMof6ClHzpXTNXknLFq35hyFMrA8yhV0hkPOwhfw e speedway with rider Adam Nejezchleba - Teams GRS-THK racing – MXM will try a mini speedway race with both 125 cc in the Czech Republic on October 8, 2022. We'll see how it goes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCB Wildcat Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 I've no prejudice against the idea in terms of noise or smell but I'm not seeing any cost benefit to it as far as bringing riders into the sport. The problem with the idea of making the NDL electric only is that NDL riders currently double up as rising stars or second strings in the higher leagues, so would now need 2 sets of kit, adding more expensive rather than reducing it. At entry level (i.e youth or amateur) Speedway is not an expensive sport to enter. A pit bike engined laydown can be purchased a fraction of the cost of one of these electric bikes and they are certainly quick enough to establish if you are capable of progressing in the sport. Around the smaller training tracks like Lydd, I've seen them post times similar to the 500's. The biggest problem in developing riders currently, is track time and availability. If these electric bikes allowed for more venues to operate structured training programs which are not possible now because of noise curfews then it would be a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 Quite right. And another problem is the chicken-and-egg situation, which also scuppered the 'F2' speedway; why pay £5000 for one of these when you can get a third hand GM for £1500? The same thing will apply to electric bikes,. Unless someone arranges meetings for them with big prizes which will make it worth while to buy them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severnsider Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 On 10/1/2022 at 7:20 AM, traged said: E speedway are testing in the Czech republic https://www.motolbc.cz/2022/09/ecka-na-tomickove-memorialu/ They had a couple of the juniors racing on e speedway bikes in the races between the main event as well as some to look at in the pit area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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