Arch Stanton Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Daniel Smith said: Surely Ippo fans would take it, no?? 1. Jason Doyle 10.32 2. Erik Riss 6.00 3. Emil Sayfutdinov 6.00 4. Richie Worrall 6.15 5. Danny King 6.41 6. Keynan Rew 4.00 7. Jack Thomas (RS) Total: 38.88 Obviously yes, but Emil won’t be on a 6 if it gets done, pretty sure of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Surely Ippo fans would take it, no?? 1. Jason Doyle 10.32 2. Erik Riss 6.00 3. Emil Sayfutdinov 6.00 4. Richie Worrall 6.15 5. Danny King 6.41 6. Keynan Rew 4.00 7. Jack Thomas (RS) Total: 38.88 Worrall is at Peterborough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Falcon1983 said: How many meeting until Rew gets an official average? 4 h 4 A normally,, but who knows these days 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Falcon1983 said: How many meeting until Rew gets an official average? 17 minutes ago, Baldyman said: 4 h 4 A normally,, but who knows these days Think it has been reduced to 3 and 3 again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, TTT said: I'd personally want a team that can challenge for the title when push comes to shove rather than an unbalanced side that'll rack up losses galore just for the sake of having another big name rider to watch. Tail end of Rew, Hume & Thomas doesn't hold up away from home and that's not good when bonus points will play a big role in 2023. I could honestly see Ipswich losing every meeting away from home next season with that tail end tbh. Could also lose a fair share at Home if Emil/Rew don't get dialled in from Day 1. So if I was in Louis' position I'm going all out for Richie Worrall who's a very experienced rider around all tracks and a very solid scorer around Foxhall then I'm going for Andersen or Batchelor to complete the side because Batchelor always rides well with Doyle, Andersen is brilliant around Foxhall and it'll keep Rew at reserve. The race format doesn't work with a "balanced" line-up, unless you've got a guaranteed high scoring reserve. Two big name riders will cover a majority of the heats, especially 13 & 15. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue witch Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 10 hours ago, TTT said: I'd personally want a team that can challenge for the title when push comes to shove rather than an unbalanced side that'll rack up losses galore just for the sake of having another big name rider to watch. Tail end of Rew, Hume & Thomas doesn't hold up away from home and that's not good when bonus points will play a big role in 2023. I could honestly see Ipswich losing every meeting away from home next season with that tail end tbh. Could also lose a fair share at Home if Emil/Rew don't get dialled in from Day 1. So if I was in Louis' position I'm going all out for Richie Worrall who's a very experienced rider around all tracks and a very solid scorer around Foxhall then I'm going for Andersen or Batchelor to complete the side because Batchelor always rides well with Doyle, Andersen is brilliant around Foxhall and it'll keep Rew at reserve. When you're paying £22 for 15/16 minutes of racing you want to see Emil racing not Worrall and Hans! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 13 hours ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: True ...but weak reserves then .... 11 hours ago, TTT said: Tail end of Rew, Hume & Thomas doesn't hold up away from home Take Rew out of the equation for a moment because he’ll be swapping with Hume after the first set of averages. The away from home bit is interesting, have you seen Ben Cook’s stats away from Poole? Cook’s 2022 GSA was 5.69, Hume’s GSA was 5.54 so very little in it. Hume did have a spell at reserve, but so did Ben Cook. The home and away split is where it’s gets interesting. Hume’s GSA split for Glasgow was 5.39 home, and 5.73 away so his GSA for the season was better away than at home. Cook’s split was home 6.93, and rather worryingly 4.32 away, nearly a point and a half less than Hume’s! That tells us he had a liking for the Poole track but was a poor traveler. Jack Thomas by the way had a GSA of 5.39 as apposed to Jenkins’ 4.46. Not sure Peterborough’s tail end will hold up away from home either.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 Hume had opportunities and offers elsewhere this coming season but Louis refused to release him just in case he was needed. I wonder if Louis feels he owes him a team place now that all the others have moved on and completed their teams. He should do to be honest. You can’t deny the lad the opportunity to earn a living elsewhere and then not end up using him yourself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) But if you consider it a bottom end of three by putting Worrall and Rew in the equation then I think P'boro have the edge. The two engine rooms are similar with Basso's potential probably giving P'boro the edge again, however Doyle and Emil blow Puk and Noddy away every day of the week. Both get marmalised by Lynn regardless Edited January 10, 2023 by Bagpuss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Steve Irving said: Take Rew out of the equation for a moment because he’ll be swapping with Hume after the first set of averages. The away from home bit is interesting, have you seen Ben Cook’s stats away from Poole? Cook’s 2022 GSA was 5.69, Hume’s GSA was 5.54 so very little in it. Hume did have a spell at reserve, but so did Ben Cook. The home and away split is where it’s gets interesting. Hume’s GSA split for Glasgow was 5.39 home, and 5.73 away so his GSA for the season was better away than at home. Cook’s split was home 6.93, and rather worryingly 4.32 away, nearly a point and a half less than Hume’s! That tells us he had a liking for the Poole track but was a poor traveler. Jack Thomas by the way had a GSA of 5.39 as apposed to Jenkins’ 4.46. Not sure Peterborough’s tail end will hold up away from home either.. Post season Ben Cook averaged 7.13 from five away matches (none at reserve). Edited January 10, 2023 by arnieg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: But if you consider it a bottom end of three by putting Worrall and Rew in the equation then I think P'boro have the edge. But that’s just pure guesswork though. Rew just breezed through the Aussie u21 championship with a faultless max and mixed it with established riders in Poland with a better average than the like of Luke Becker. He could be anything time will tell there. We know what we’re getting with Worrall though so you could say he’s the safer bet sure. 18 minutes ago, arnieg said: Post season Ben Cook averaged 7.13 from five away matches (none at reserve). “Post season”? What does that even mean? My averages were across the entire season which is a far better guaga surely? Every rider has spells where they have ups and downs during the season. It’s not as if Cook was riding his first season is it. Edited January 10, 2023 by Steve Irving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Steve Irving said: Hume had opportunities and offers elsewhere this coming season but Louis refused to release him just in case he was needed. I wonder if Louis feels he owes him a team place now that all the others have moved on and completed their teams. He should do to be honest. You can’t deny the lad the opportunity to earn a living elsewhere and then not end up using him yourself. Then again it could be a case of Louis wanted to use Hume, but Hume wanted away somewhere else. Louis refused to release Hume and then that deal fell through for Danyon? Now Louis is in a position where a rider wanted away, but maybe now wants back in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, wtf said: Then again it could be a case of Louis wanted to use Hume, but Hume wanted away somewhere else. Louis refused to release Hume and then that deal fell through for Danyon? Now Louis is in a position where a rider wanted away, but maybe now wants back in? Absolutely. Hume from what I’ve heard wanted a move to Leicester. Edited January 10, 2023 by Steve Irving 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: But if you consider it a bottom end of three by putting Worrall and Rew in the equation then I think P'boro have the edge. The two engine rooms are similar with Basso's potential probably giving P'boro the edge again, however Doyle and Emil blow Puk and Noddy away every day of the week. Both get marmalised by Lynn regardless We do. Reserves win meetings we’ve seen that time and time again. That’s why I have Lynn doing very well. Unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Steve Irving said: Take Rew out of the equation for a moment because he’ll be swapping with Hume after the first set of averages. The away from home bit is interesting, have you seen Ben Cook’s stats away from Poole? Cook’s 2022 GSA was 5.69, Hume’s GSA was 5.54 so very little in it. Hume did have a spell at reserve, but so did Ben Cook. The home and away split is where it’s gets interesting. Hume’s GSA split for Glasgow was 5.39 home, and 5.73 away so his GSA for the season was better away than at home. Cook’s split was home 6.93, and rather worryingly 4.32 away, nearly a point and a half less than Hume’s! That tells us he had a liking for the Poole track but was a poor traveler. Jack Thomas by the way had a GSA of 5.39 as apposed to Jenkins’ 4.46. Not sure Peterborough’s tail end will hold up away from home either.. Ben Cook is not so good away from home .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 hours ago, blue witch said: When you're paying £22 for 15/16 minutes of racing you want to see Emil racing not Worrall and Hans! People won't turn up if / when the team starts losing, Happens everywhere. 2 hours ago, Steve Irving said: Take Rew out of the equation for a moment because he’ll be swapping with Hume after the first set of averages. The away from home bit is interesting, have you seen Ben Cook’s stats away from Poole? Cook’s 2022 GSA was 5.69, Hume’s GSA was 5.54 so very little in it. Hume did have a spell at reserve, but so did Ben Cook. The home and away split is where it’s gets interesting. Hume’s GSA split for Glasgow was 5.39 home, and 5.73 away so his GSA for the season was better away than at home. Cook’s split was home 6.93, and rather worryingly 4.32 away, nearly a point and a half less than Hume’s! That tells us he had a liking for the Poole track but was a poor traveler. Jack Thomas by the way had a GSA of 5.39 as apposed to Jenkins’ 4.46. Not sure Peterborough’s tail end will hold up away from home either.. Hume has quite a few years worth of British league experience on Ben. Danyon spent 11 meetings at reserve for Glasgow last season too. Ben was the one who finished up with the higher GSA out of the two. Jack Thomas is coming back from a season ending injury and Jenkins will only take 3 rides a night and they'll all be against the oppositions RS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, TTT said: People won't turn up if / when the team starts losing, Happens everywhere. Hume has quite a few years worth of British league experience on Ben. Danyon spent 11 meetings at reserve for Glasgow last season too. Ben was the one who finished up with the higher GSA out of the two. Jack Thomas is coming back from a season ending injury and Jenkins will only take 3 rides a night and they'll all be against the oppositions RS. But not speedway in general I’d guess. Hume was trails and motocross before he had a crack at speedway quite late on. Completely different skill set. Pointless predicting anyhow some riders progress some don’t. Best just to wait and see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue witch Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, TTT said: People won't turn up if / when the team starts losing, Happens everywhere. Hume has quite a few years worth of British league experience on Ben. Danyon spent 11 meetings at reserve for Glasgow last season too. Ben was the one who finished up with the higher GSA out of the two. Jack Thomas is coming back from a season ending injury and Jenkins will only take 3 rides a night and they'll all be against the oppositions RS. Of course you get people who won't but Foxhall will be good crowds majority of the time if the racing's good! Of course we all want to win but watching Doyle and Emil would be worth the match fee alone. Nobody's paying the entrance fee to watch Danny King ride on a non existent racing line or Richie Worrall fitting it out at the back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 Foxhall crowds don’t seem to change much whether we’re doing well or rubbish. They’re consistently healthy. Definitely one of if not the best supported club in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Steve Irving said: “Post season”? What does that even mean? My averages were across the entire season which is a far better guaga surely? Every rider has spells where they have ups and downs during the season. It’s not as if Cook was riding his first season is it. Your figures are not across the whole season - only one match after 20 July. Post season in this context means after completion of regular league matches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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