Baldyman Posted December 31, 2022 Report Share Posted December 31, 2022 That was a good race,, but at the same time shows his lack of track craft,,, he makes the pass,, then goes in way to wide leaving a huge gap and gets re passed,,, but he won in the end,,,,, but could have been so much easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted December 31, 2022 Report Share Posted December 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Baldyman said: That was a good race,, but at the same time shows his lack of track craft,,, he makes the pass,, then goes in way to wide leaving a huge gap and gets re passed,,, but he won in the end,,,,, but could have been so much easier That was also when the outside line worked round Foxhall, King and a few others had no luck trying that move most of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted December 31, 2022 Report Share Posted December 31, 2022 26 minutes ago, kevin bass said: That was also when the outside line worked round Foxhall, King and a few others had no luck trying that move most of last season. It was a mixed bag for some reason, some meetings it didn’t work at all and then the next it was working like a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 31, 2022 Report Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: It was a mixed bag for some reason, some meetings it didn’t work at all and then the next it was working like a treat. I think it not so much that the outside doesn't work but rather how well the inside works , particularly right down on the kerb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 Was such a prolonged hotter than normal dry drought last summer, getting the outside line grippy and keeping in the moisture in must’ve been nigh on impossible, don’t think the material or prep has changed too drastically just the weather was hard work all last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 1 minute ago, 89buttons said: Was such a prolonged hotter than normal dry drought last summer, getting the outside line grippy and keeping in the moisture in must’ve been nigh on impossible, don’t think the material or prep has changed too drastically just the weather was hard work all last season Your probably right about the weather & prep. The issue seems to be that riders like Heeps & King who are both very experienced & talented riders seem to be lacking one vital piece of track craft & that is to ride different lines when their preferred line isn't working. They seem incapable of being able too. Good old Morten Risager would have been almost unbeatable at Foxhall last season with his stuck to the white line style. Again someone else who was hugely talented but stuck to one line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 45 minutes ago, 89buttons said: Was such a prolonged hotter than normal dry drought last summer, getting the outside line grippy and keeping in the moisture in must’ve been nigh on impossible, don’t think the material or prep has changed too drastically just the weather was hard work all last season It was earlier in the season before the warm weather hit that the outside line was non existent though. Particularly the home cup meeting against Peterborough where King was frustrating every Witches fan watching by refusing to budge off an outside line that clearly wasn’t working and and being passed repeatedly by riders nipping up the inside. The outside line got better as the season went on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 I'm with what Taps said a bit back,,, it's the inside line that's too good. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Baldyman said: I'm with what Taps said a bit back,,, it's the inside line that's too good. There was a few meetings from memory, I’m thinking the Wolves meeting where the inside wasn’t working and the outside was literally the only place to be. Was definitely inconsistencies there which isn’t surprising as that’ll be the same for all tracks. Weather obviously plays a huge part in that. Can be a pretty thankless task prepping tracks. Edited January 1, 2023 by Steve Irving 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 Heeps and king can’t ride ride any other line tho can they. 12 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: It was earlier in the season before the warm weather hit that the outside line was non existent though. Particularly the home cup meeting against Peterborough where King was frustrating every Witches fan watching by refusing to budge off an outside line that clearly wasn’t working and and being passed repeatedly by riders nipping up the inside. The outside line got better as the season went on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, 89buttons said: Heeps and king can’t ride ride any other line tho can they. Which is strange really,,, Screen, Loram and Bomber are and were all decent at holding an inside line if they had to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 4 hours ago, 89buttons said: Heeps and king can’t ride ride any other line tho can they. Which is strange if you've seen Pinjar in WA where Cam cut his teeth and how Danny rides places like Plymouth..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 On 12/31/2022 at 10:20 AM, Arch Stanton said: Don’t get me wrong he’d be nowhere near any list of mine if you were only starting the team building, just looking through the option available on 4.27 and it’s only him, Hume and Mountain available. I’m with Baldyman I’d prefer we sought out another Rew and took a chance on another new 4 pointer, but if the choice is Mountain Hume or Heeps I’d reluctantly go for Heeps. On 12/31/2022 at 10:34 AM, foreverblue said: I think you should get Hume back, improving rider who in my opinion could put a point on his average. However if you sign Hume on 3.07 & he puts a point on his ave, that still below the 4.27 available so not good team building. I'd totally go for Hume or Mountain if I brought them up to the points limit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: However if you sign Hume on 3.07 & he puts a point on his ave, that still below the 4.27 available so not good team building. I'd totally go for Hume or Mountain if I brought them up to the points limit! Heeps average of 4.18 was achieved via him starting higher and sliding drastically downward, it’s only still that high due to meetings still contributing from previous seasons. Hume and mountain both averaged over 4 last season and are only 3.07/3.27 due to the 25% reduction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 Sayfutdinov would obviously generate more excitement, but would Emil and Hume/Mountain/Starke score more combined than say Pawlicki with either Cook or Andersen? Wouldn’t be much in it really. I really don’t want to see Rew thrown in to the main body of the side from the off, which signing one of Hume/Mountain/Starke would do. For that reason IF Emil signs, I’d plump for Heeps or another new 4 pointer with a tad more experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman1 Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Sayfutdinov would obviously generate more excitement, but would Emil and Hume/Mountain/Starke score more combined than say Pawlicki with either Cook or Andersen? Wouldn’t be much in it really. I really don’t want to see Rew thrown in to the main body of the side from the off, which signing one of Hume/Mountain/Starke would do. For that reason IF Emil signs, I’d plump for Heeps or another new 4 pointer with a tad more experience. Heeps better than mountain, experience will be worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Spiderman1 said: Heeps better than mountain, experience will be worth it Not when he's two stone overweight he's not... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 56 minutes ago, Blupanther said: Not when he's two stone overweight he's not... But he is so popular on the foxhole terraces and he plays golf with Richie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: But he is so popular on the foxhole terraces and he plays golf with Richie I haven't seen Cam on the golf course with his usual playing partner buddy, or booked into a tee time for months now. Maybe he's been going to the gym instead... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 9 hours ago, Blupanther said: I haven't seen Cam on the golf course with his usual playing partner buddy, or booked into a tee time for months now. Maybe he's been going to the gym instead... I can see how successful cam will be over a season on press and practice day. If he has more than one chin he will disappoint. he is extremely talented but also lazy. When he knuckled down he was brilliant but he is probably 2-3 stone overweight for a speedway rider. imagine putting a 2stone weight on Doyle’s bike and see the difference that would make on his results !!!! i honestly thought having Doyle in the team would inspire heeps to be more professional but he obviously can’t be bothered to put the effort it. very sad as he could be so much better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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