Ipswich 2023

[LisaColette]

29 minutes ago, Lenny Lion said:

Based on watching Joe at Leicester over the past 3 years. This is only my humble opinion. He has always been a very shy & quiet spoken lad .

Joe was the better of the twins in their first season in the NDL (2019) he had a-lot of determination & was very brave when making passes.
Covid hit & there was a long lay off when speedway resumed Dan was head & heels above Joe . In 2022 from June he seemed to lack motivation & looked disinterested when riding anywhere away from Leicester . His form picked up slightly towards the play offs of 2022 where he looked faster & picked up 4-6 point scores, I feel he will really struggle in the Premiership but Ipswich can afford to carry him.

He will score well on 30th March because he will beat Sedgmen & Allen round Leicester but heat 2 certainly will be interesting because it will be the first time Dan & Joe have raced in a league meeting against each other & also their dad mechanics for both of them. 

A lot of running up and down the pits then 

[Baldyman]

Not so sure Ipswich can afford to carry him either, if they are serious about silverware

[dukes]

1 hour ago, Lenny Lion said:

Based on watching Joe at Leicester over the past 3 years. This is only my humble opinion. He has always been a very shy & quiet spoken lad .

Joe was the better of the twins in their first season in the NDL (2019) he had a-lot of determination & was very brave when making passes.
Covid hit & there was a long lay off when speedway resumed Dan was head & heels above Joe . In 2022 from June he seemed to lack motivation & looked disinterested when riding anywhere away from Leicester . His form picked up slightly towards the play offs of 2022 where he looked faster & picked up 4-6 point scores, I feel he will really struggle in the Premiership but Ipswich can afford to carry him.

He will score well on 30th March because he will beat Sedgmen & Allen round Leicester but heat 2 certainly will be interesting because it will be the first time Dan & Joe have raced in a league meeting against each other & also their dad mechanics for both of them. 

On 25 June 2017 at Scunthorpe Joe and Dan raced competitively against each other representing different teams in a league meeting, with their Dad as mechanic for both. 

[DJC]

4 minutes ago, dukes said:

On 25 June 2017 at Scunthorpe Joe and Dan raced competitively against each other representing different teams in a league meeting, with their Dad as mechanic for both. 

That was Scunthorpe v Berwick but they didn't ride, wouldn't they have only been 13 as well? Maybe a typo on the year front?

Scunthorpe Vs Berwick (Championship) 25/06/17 | Speedway Updates (proboards.com)

 

[dukes]

No typo error, just facts. It is a pity that proboards never cover the best entertainment on offer. Look how all the talent on that day is doing now. 

 

Northern Junior League scintillating speedway was served up at Scunthorpe Speedway today when Halifax `Golden Fleece`Dukes entertained Berwick Border Raiders.

The cream of British Youth speedway served up entertainment superior to most professional matches and a narrow margin of scores showed the evenness of the teams.

                                           

Heat 1. With Dan Gilkes making his debut for the Dukes, all looked well with Kean Dicken following round the first bend and the Dukes on a 5-1, by lap 2 Kev Whelan had made his mark with a inside swoop for second place. All looked well on the last bend when disaster struck for Dan with a sudden engine failure, Kev Whelan sped through with Kean Dicken second and Kieran Douglas third for a early Berwick lead 4-2.

Heat 2. Saw the first ever Northern Junior League 250cc race and what a race. With all 4 riders entering the first bend no quarter was given by any of the riders, side by side until the straight where Dan Thompson took the lead. With Jordan Palin, Leon Flint and Joe Thompson in hot pursuit the race was not over, lap after lap the boys rode hard with Berwick securing another 4-2 advantage.

Heat 3. Dan Gilkes had to resort to his second bike, but who would have thought it. A magnificent start and holding his nerve under pressure from Kieran Douglas and Kev Whelan, Dan emerged from bend 2 in front and kept the lead throughout. 3-3.

Heat 4. Dukes duo of Jordan Palin and Joe Thompson raced away for a superb 5-1 and to level the aggregate scores to 12-12.

Heat 5. All 4 riders into the bend together and again with Dan Gilkes holding his nerve he gained advantage down the back straight with Kev Whelan, Kean Dicken and Kieran Douglas following. Douglas reeled in and passed Dicken and doing that split the heat score 3-3.

Heat 6. With all to race for, Jordan Palin and Joe Thompson away from the gate with Leon Flint and Dan Thompson not far behind. Slowly Leon Flint reeled in Joe Thompson and a pass, but Jordan Palin was gone and tad too far for Leon Flint to reach. 4-2 to the Dukes and a narrow margin win 19-17.

Credit must go to all riders who displayed fantastic skill and ability for their years, but most of all to their parents, grandparents, brothers, sisters, families and friends for without these nothing would be possible. Thank you all.

Halifax`Golden Fleece`Dukes 19

Keen Dicken 2, 0, 0,                    2

Dan Gilkes ef, 3, 3,                      6

Jordan Palin 2, 3, 3,                    8

Joe Thompson 0, 2+1, 1,           3+1

 

Berwick Border Raiders           17

Kev Whelan 3, 2, 2,                     7

Kieran Douglas 1, 1+1, 1+1,     3+2

Leon Flint 1, 1, 2                        4

Dan Thompson 3, 0, 0               3

[DJC]

34 minutes ago, dukes said:

No typo error, just facts. It is a pity that proboards never cover the best entertainment on offer. Look how all the talent on that day is doing now. 

 

Northern Junior League scintillating speedway was served up at Scunthorpe Speedway today when Halifax `Golden Fleece`Dukes entertained Berwick Border Raiders.

The cream of British Youth speedway served up entertainment superior to most professional matches and a narrow margin of scores showed the evenness of the teams.

                                           

Heat 1. With Dan Gilkes making his debut for the Dukes, all looked well with Kean Dicken following round the first bend and the Dukes on a 5-1, by lap 2 Kev Whelan had made his mark with a inside swoop for second place. All looked well on the last bend when disaster struck for Dan with a sudden engine failure, Kev Whelan sped through with Kean Dicken second and Kieran Douglas third for a early Berwick lead 4-2.

Heat 2. Saw the first ever Northern Junior League 250cc race and what a race. With all 4 riders entering the first bend no quarter was given by any of the riders, side by side until the straight where Dan Thompson took the lead. With Jordan Palin, Leon Flint and Joe Thompson in hot pursuit the race was not over, lap after lap the boys rode hard with Berwick securing another 4-2 advantage.

Heat 3. Dan Gilkes had to resort to his second bike, but who would have thought it. A magnificent start and holding his nerve under pressure from Kieran Douglas and Kev Whelan, Dan emerged from bend 2 in front and kept the lead throughout. 3-3.

Heat 4. Dukes duo of Jordan Palin and Joe Thompson raced away for a superb 5-1 and to level the aggregate scores to 12-12.

Heat 5. All 4 riders into the bend together and again with Dan Gilkes holding his nerve he gained advantage down the back straight with Kev Whelan, Kean Dicken and Kieran Douglas following. Douglas reeled in and passed Dicken and doing that split the heat score 3-3.

Heat 6. With all to race for, Jordan Palin and Joe Thompson away from the gate with Leon Flint and Dan Thompson not far behind. Slowly Leon Flint reeled in Joe Thompson and a pass, but Jordan Palin was gone and tad too far for Leon Flint to reach. 4-2 to the Dukes and a narrow margin win 19-17.

Credit must go to all riders who displayed fantastic skill and ability for their years, but most of all to their parents, grandparents, brothers, sisters, families and friends for without these nothing would be possible. Thank you all.

Halifax`Golden Fleece`Dukes 19

Keen Dicken 2, 0, 0,                    2

Dan Gilkes ef, 3, 3,                      6

Jordan Palin 2, 3, 3,                    8

Joe Thompson 0, 2+1, 1,           3+1

 

Berwick Border Raiders           17

Kev Whelan 3, 2, 2,                     7

Kieran Douglas 1, 1+1, 1+1,     3+2

Leon Flint 1, 1, 2                        4

Dan Thompson 3, 0, 0               3

Apologies, a great insight though. It's very rare that these kinds of meetings get any widespread coverage these days and some big names in there as well. 

Used to be the my favourite part of the meeting when I was a kid going up to Swindon

[Baldyman]

When's the last day we can get season tickets? 

[Tom Thumb]

14 minutes ago, Baldyman said:

When's the last day we can get season tickets? 

today. 

[mc131]

On 3/13/2023 at 10:19 AM, szkocjasid said:

Honestly feel he's the 6th best. (Mulford weakest).

Mulford hasn't had a real run in team higher than nl he will surprise a few, hes definitely got his chance this season 

[Arthur73]

I don't really understand why Ipswich have gone for Thompson here, yes I see him as a good talent for the future but surely Kemp would've been a better pick here! 

Not signing Rowe makes sense as it seems he's more committed to Poland. But Kemp is one of the top 3 rising stars in my opinion and is (or maybe now was) a club asset.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Arch Stanton]

4 hours ago, Baldyman said:

When's the last day we can get season tickets? 

 

4 hours ago, Tom Thumb said:

today. 

Was 12.00pm today the cut off. 

[szkocjasid]

On 3/14/2023 at 1:08 PM, Lenny Lion said:

Covid hit & there was a long lay off when speedway resumed Dan was head & heels above Joe . In 2022 from June he seemed to lack motivation & looked disinterested when riding anywhere away from Leicester. His form picked up slightly towards the play offs of 2022 where he looked faster & picked up 4-6 point scores, I feel he will really struggle in the Premiership but Ipswich can afford to carry him.

I disagree, after their top 2 Ipswich don't look all that strong to me.

If Ipswich picked Joe because they thought they didn't need Kemp - big mistake. If they picked Joe because they feel he has a better attitude than Kemp - that's their perogrative, but not what I would have done.

[lewy]

I think Ipswich picking Thomson says more about Rowe and kemp than anything else. Bad apples and all that. 

[Arch Stanton]

1 minute ago, lewy said:

I think Ipswich picking Thomson says more about Rowe and kemp than anything else. Bad apples and all that. 

It’s not a good look for them that’s for sure, especially Kemp who is a club asset. With all due respect to Joe, Kemp would have been the stronger rider, but Louis clearly just doesn’t want to use him for whatever reason. 

[mc131]

2 hours ago, Arch Stanton said:

It’s not a good look for them that’s for sure, especially Kemp who is a club asset. With all due respect to Joe, Kemp would have been the stronger rider, but Louis clearly just doesn’t want to use him for whatever reason. 

But kemp is not great round Ipswich for the amount of laps he's done there, so joe may turn out the better option 

Edited March 15, 2023 by mc131

[Bagpuss]

Kemp was also poor for Wolves last year.

[Arch Stanton]

35 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Kemp was also poor for Wolves last year.

https://britishspeedway.co.uk/2022-rider-statistics/
 

If you look at their 2022 GSA’s, Kemp wasn’t a million miles away from Flint who everyone is saying is far and away the strongest rising star. Also factor in that Kemp was riding as the senior reserve despite being on the rising star list himself. Kemp IMO was one of if not THE plum pick, and nobody has picked him..

Edited March 15, 2023 by Arch Stanton

[Baldyman]

Maybe Kemp said no thanks,, not for RS money.   

[Baldyman]

2 hours ago, Arch Stanton said:

 

Was 12.00pm today the cut off. 

Oh well,,,missed that then

[szkocjasid]

1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said:

https://britishspeedway.co.uk/2022-rider-statistics/
 

If you look at their 2022 GSA’s, Kemp wasn’t a million miles away from Flint who everyone is saying is far and away the strongest rising star. Also factor in that Kemp was riding as the senior reserve despite being on the rising star list himself. Kemp IMO was one of if not THE plum pick, and nobody has picked him..

Pretty much agree with all you've said. Riding at number 6 is a lot harder than the RS spot, so Kemp should've been looking at putting a point on his Prem ave if signed.