Redtruck Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Bagpuss said: What's the evidence that Scunny has a bad injury record? I've always considered it very safe due to the width and shape but happy to be disproved. Gutted for Jack. Dan Gilkes, joe Alcock, Zaine kennady 2 of those required air ambulance 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Redtruck said: Dan Gilkes, joe Alcock, Zaine kennady 2 of those required air ambulance That doesn't mean anything. They're all young an inexperienced rider's, they'll crash everywhere. Plus the fact Kennedy has signed for Scunthorpe clearly indicates he has no problem with the track 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 Could ipswich not move danyon to the rising start position and have anders rowe at number 6? If my memory serves me right they've got about a point to play with (I'm still working on the basis that rew is a 4.00, not sure if that's the case or not though?) And actually would that not move rew to 6 and Rowe at 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeyin Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: Could ipswich not move danyon to the rising start position and have anders rowe at number 6? If my memory serves me right they've got about a point to play with (I'm still working on the basis that rew is a 4.00, not sure if that's the case or not though?) And actually would that not move rew to 6 and Rowe at 2? Danyon not on rising star list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: Could ipswich not move danyon to the rising start position and have anders rowe at number 6? If my memory serves me right they've got about a point to play with (I'm still working on the basis that rew is a 4.00, not sure if that's the case or not though?) And actually would that not move rew to 6 and Rowe at 2? No, Hume isn’t on the rising Star list, Rowe is however and could take the rising star role if he’s made himself available Rew is an assessed 5, not 4. Press and Practice is on the 16th March, same day as the meet the riders event that evening. Edited March 3, 2023 by Arch Stanton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: That doesn't mean anything. They're all young an inexperienced rider's, they'll crash everywhere. Plus the fact Kennedy has signed for Scunthorpe clearly indicates he has no problem with the track The airfence has an armco barrier directly behind it that is the problem not the riders inexperience if a gp rider crashed into the fence at scunthorpe he would sustain bad injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 9 hours ago, kevin bass said: Drew may of had an average higher than Jack but i just think that Drew has not kicked on the last couple of seasons and seems to fragile or not mentally tough enough when he has to mix it, he's fine when he traps but more often then not doesnt make much impression if he's at the back, he may of missed out on a ride in the other league coz he had an awkward average but it's strange then no one in the top league wanted him as their RS if he's on the list or as the other reserve, i hope im proved wrong and he kicks in this season given the chance coz ive got nothing against the lad and it's good to have a local lad riding for his local team. I agree with most of what you've said except Drew not kicking on in the last couple of seasons, as he's just put nearly 2 points in his Champ ave (which is the highest it's ever been). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 43 minutes ago, lewy said: The airfence has an armco barrier directly behind it that is the problem not the riders inexperience if a gp rider crashed into the fence at scunthorpe he would sustain bad injuries. GP / International rider's crash in to the fence at King's Lynn, it also has an unmovable armco barrier, held SWC meetings, what's your point? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: GP / International rider's crash in to the fence at King's Lynn, it also has an unmovable armco barrier, held SWC meetings, what's your point? My point is riders crash regardless of ability or experience, the safety fence at scunthorpe possibly needs looking at to see if it could be made safer,possibly repositioning it,rider safety is paramount, what's your point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: GP / International rider's crash in to the fence at King's Lynn, it also has an unmovable armco barrier, held SWC meetings, what's your point? Kings Lynn have a different fence 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said: GP / International rider's crash in to the fence at King's Lynn, it also has an unmovable armco barrier, held SWC meetings, what's your point? Kings lynn don’t have an air fence that pops or that you can slide under at Scunthorpe if the bike goes in first 9 times out of ten the body takes the full impact into the armco. It really is a dangerous fence that as caused far to many serious injuries the last few years 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: Kings lynn don’t have an air fence that pops or that you can slide under at Scunthorpe if the bike goes in first 9 times out of ten the body takes the full impact into the armco. It really is a dangerous fence that as caused far to many serious injuries the last few years Something needs to done about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 So basically Scunthorpe have the type of fence similar to Coventry? The same Coventry where GP rider Chris Holder crashed and injured himself....... Where the impact dislocated and fractured his left hip, broke his pelvis and left shoulder, and shattered his right heel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Phil The Ace said: Kings lynn don’t have an air fence that pops or that you can slide under at Scunthorpe if the bike goes in first 9 times out of ten the body takes the full impact into the armco. It really is a dangerous fence that as caused far to many serious injuries the last few years We still have this problem at GP level, Poland's Exstraliga etc, it's not just a Scunthorpe thing of solid-state fences. Scunthorpe is no more dangerous than any other track around the world. We've had rider's suffer just as severe injuries with airfence's on wooden & chain-link fences. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 rubbish news as the season is about to start! Wishing him (Jack) a speedy recovery - Anders Rowe for me as a replacement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 10 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: We still have this problem at GP level, Poland's Exstraliga etc, it's not just a Scunthorpe thing of solid-state fences. Scunthorpe is no more dangerous than any other track around the world. We've had rider's suffer just as severe injuries with airfence's on wooden & chain-link fences. Its not the severity it's the frequency, Thomas,Gilkes, Alcock in less than 12 months can you name another track that has the same record of bad injuries in the same time frame? No I didn't think so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, lewy said: Its not the severity it's the frequency, Thomas,Gilkes, Alcock in less than 12 months can you name another track that has the same record of bad injuries in the same time frame? No I didn't think so is there a track more used? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 Just now, ch958 said: is there a track more used? I don't know, the fact that it's used so often surely reinforces the need for rider safety instead of raking in the£££ invest some of the profits to make it safer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 I've had the pleasure of visiting several fences over the last 6 years or so I've been riding, and I must say scunthorpe is one of the least forgiving... thankfully I'm not as quick as some of the previously mentioned riders, but it still hurts a lot more than say Newcastle, Redcar, Kings Lynn, never was quite sure why. There have been numerous severe injuries in the amateur meetings too down the years, where riders have hit the 'safety fence' at relatively slow speed and came out with serious injuries, although I do admit some of these instances are older riders who don't bounce quite the same. There needs to be an investigation into scunthorpes fence at least, even if it turns out to be good enough, better safe than sorry in these circumstances. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffa Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 3 of the said crashes were coming out of the second bend just after the air fence finished. Wonder if an extra panel could save a lot of injuries. Don’t know where Jack crashed yesterday but if it was same again it had to be worth a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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