Racin Jason 72 Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 There is no doubt Danny king has been a brilliant loyal member of the team for many years. Also a lovely guy and decent man but I think he needs a change of track. over the last couple of seasons I’ve really noticed in the pressure heats he seems to crumble. This is also true at championship level too. I thought this season with another top rider where he wouldn’t get heat 13 or 15 would help him for a rider of his experience I find his riding lines strange. Heat 3 at foxhall he rides the outside by the fence and get easily passed by both Leicester riders. His gating has been good but he get passed repeatedly and easily. it baffles me how opposing riders sail past with no attempt to block them yet a team maté regularly gets impeded by him. He never ever looks for his partner or attempts to team ride either. maybe like Lewis Kerr he has just got stale and would benefit greatly from a move away. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 I see a major problem with that Louis doesn't know who the young foreign talent is,,, how can you keep building teams for the future years like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 It’s not rocket science … King and Thompson need to go Trouble is we are to loyal to certain riders Doyle and Emil can only get a maximum of 28 between them but are more likely to say get 25 This means we need 21 from the other 5 to win a meeting Joe will only get 2 at home if he is lucky meaning we need 19 from King Hume Rew and Barker King needs to get 8 or 9 and the other 3 the remaining 9 King at home has only hit double figures once apart from the Peterborough meeting and he is mostly having 5 rides …… he needs to get 8 or 9 from 4 not getting 7 or 8 from 5 King off it means reliance on Hume who although doing ok is having to carry Joe in the reserve berth Lets hope that Chris realises this team will not make the play offs the way it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Gavan said: It’s not rocket science … King and Thompson need to go Trouble is we are to loyal to certain riders Doyle and Emil can only get a maximum of 28 between them but are more likely to say get 25 This means we need 21 from the other 5 to win a meeting Joe will only get 2 at home if he is lucky meaning we need 19 from King Hume Rew and Barker King needs to get 8 or 9 and the other 3 the remaining 9 King at home has only hit double figures once apart from the Peterborough meeting and he is mostly having 5 rides …… he needs to get 8 or 9 from 4 not getting 7 or 8 from 5 King off it means reliance on Hume who although doing ok is having to carry Joe in the reserve berth Lets hope that Chris realises this team will not make the play offs the way it is But he's a lovely lad,,, And maybe instead of Barker they should have given some young talent a call,,, come and give it a try for 28 days,,, Edited June 6, 2023 by Baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siggysigalos Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 55 minutes ago, Gavan said: It’s not rocket science … King and Thompson need to go Trouble is we are to loyal to certain riders Doyle and Emil can only get a maximum of 28 between them but are more likely to say get 25 This means we need 21 from the other 5 to win a meeting Joe will only get 2 at home if he is lucky meaning we need 19 from King Hume Rew and Barker King needs to get 8 or 9 and the other 3 the remaining 9 King at home has only hit double figures once apart from the Peterborough meeting and he is mostly having 5 rides …… he needs to get 8 or 9 from 4 not getting 7 or 8 from 5 King off it means reliance on Hume who although doing ok is having to carry Joe in the reserve berth Lets hope that Chris realises this team will not make the play offs the way it is Well Said.....All Correct. The problem i see is nobody seems to know what the replacements should be..... Thompson i believe could be Bailey or Kemp Dont think as i said earlier that Barker will be retained after 28 Days, not sure whether Erik will ride again this season, so god knows who comes in there And Danny King should be the 1st released, but we all know it won't be him due to his relationship with Louis and Hawkins. But if they were to press the button then apart from Tungate (Who i would take)no other names seem to be forthcoming. I suppose thats an average thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, Baldyman said: But he's a lovely lad,,, And maybe instead of Barker they should have given some young talent a call,,, come and give it a try for 28 days,,, Trouble is if you are giving someone a 28 day contract you want a 'safe pair of hands' for a few meetings, an experienced rider who will hit the ground running. I think if you are going to bring someone new in (like Rew) you need to invest time in them and give them a season to settle in, it's hard coming to a new country with new shapes and surfaces of tracks. Having a look at soneone is for the end of the season when you've nothing to play for IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Trouble is if you are giving someone a 28 day contract you want a 'safe pair of hands' for a few meetings, an experienced rider who will hit the ground running. I think if you are going to bring someone new in (like Rew) you need to invest time in them and give them a season to settle in, it's hard coming to a new country with new shapes and surfaces of tracks. Having a look at soneone is for the end of the season when you've nothing to play for IMO. Well we never have any end of season meetings,,, so that's that then,,, I would take a gamble,, sometimes you win sometimes you lose,,,, but with a so called safe pair of hands,,, we keep losing Edited June 6, 2023 by Baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, siggysigalos said: Well Said.....All Correct. The problem i see is nobody seems to know what the replacements should be..... Thompson i believe could be Bailey or Kemp Dont think as i said earlier that Barker will be retained after 28 Days, not sure whether Erik will ride again this season, so god knows who comes in there And Danny King should be the 1st released, but we all know it won't be him due to his relationship with Louis and Hawkins. But if they were to press the button then apart from Tungate (Who i would take)no other names seem to be forthcoming. I suppose thats an average thing. Looks like he might be riding for Redcar.. 21 hours ago, slyfox said: Will Erik Riss be back for Friday? Sounds like he has been practicing at Redcar in recent days. 32 minutes ago, crescent girl said: He is named by Redcar at #3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 Blooming fixture changes Booked a holiday as no home fixture 10th August and now this We were supposed to be at home 3rd and 17th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castrolargh Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 9 hours ago, Badge said: Blooming fixture changes Booked a holiday as no home fixture 10th August and now this We were supposed to be at home 3rd and 17th So the powers that be decided its a great idea to have 2 matches against the same team,and local derbies at that, within 2 weeks of each other .Great 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Send King back home to Peterborough please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 On 6/6/2023 at 10:07 AM, Arch Stanton said: The Problem King has is he’s been synonymous with failure. No title since 98 and since then it’s been years of failure, and Danny King has been the one mainstay in all of those failures. It’s harsh because individually he hasn’t done an awful lot wrong, in a lot of those years he’s actually done very well. But, those that attend Foxhall regularly will tell you that the groans about King have grown noticeably louder the last couple of years on the terraces every time he’s having a bad ride or meeting. There just seems to be a tiredness about it all and fresh change is sometimes needed for both club and rider. Look how stale things got for Lewi Kerr at Lynn, but a move to Sheffield seemed to give him a new spring in his step. Swap King with Klindt? Both rather stale, getting grief from home fans, and needing a new outlook ... PS: New Green Sheets for Sayfutdinov (9.40) and Rew (4.00) from 12 June. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 13 hours ago, castrolargh said: So the powers that be decided its a great idea to have 2 matches against the same team,and local derbies at that, within 2 weeks of each other .Great Height of Summer, school holidays, surely the best time to try to attract extra through the gate for local derbies ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castrolargh Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Agreed, but 2 consecutive home meetings against the same team? Very poor in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 13 hours ago, castrolargh said: So the powers that be decided its a great idea to have 2 matches against the same team,and local derbies at that, within 2 weeks of each other .Great Lack of riders available usually means lack of dates. British Speedway is a bit like trying to persuade someone they can drive from London to Glasgow on a tenner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 On 6/6/2023 at 10:19 AM, Racin Jason 72 said: There is no doubt Danny king has been a brilliant loyal member of the team for many years. Also a lovely guy and decent man but I think he needs a change of track. over the last couple of seasons I’ve really noticed in the pressure heats he seems to crumble. This is also true at championship level too. I thought this season with another top rider where he wouldn’t get heat 13 or 15 would help him for a rider of his experience I find his riding lines strange. Heat 3 at foxhall he rides the outside by the fence and get easily passed by both Leicester riders. His gating has been good but he get passed repeatedly and easily. it baffles me how opposing riders sail past with no attempt to block them yet a team maté regularly gets impeded by him. He never ever looks for his partner or attempts to team ride either. maybe like Lewis Kerr he has just got stale and would benefit greatly from a move away. Scott Nicholls is 45 and certainly didn't look stale with Sheffield at foxhall the other week. Mind you what a sad sight the the once great Hans was trying to get round the track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 52 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: Swap King with Klindt? Both rather stale, getting grief from home fans, and needing a new outlook ... PS: New Green Sheets for Sayfutdinov (9.40) and Rew (4.00) from 12 June. So Rew drops a point but Emil on the other hand gains 1.40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 hours ago, kevin bass said: So Rew drops a point but Emil on the other hand gains 1.40. Really need changes before June 12th then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 12 hours ago, kevin bass said: So Rew drops a point but Emil on the other hand gains 1.40. Rew actually 3.38 after 6 matches, but Regs don't allow GS lower than 4.00 for non-Brits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipswichwitches Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 Given that both Rew & Hume now have identical averages, would moving Rew to #6 and Hume to #2, with Barker going to #4, be a viable option for Monday's home match against Sheffield and for the following month. The regs say: In any declaration where 2 or more riders hold an identical MA (cannot be determined by a 3rd or more decimal point) then the re-declaration must nominate the hierarchical order. Where riders have a previous MA, then the higher placed rider from the previous issue shall retain the higher position. As Rew didn't have an MA as was assessed, then I think it allows us to move him to #6 if desired. If he did have an MA (not assessed), then he would have had to stay in the main body of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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