Call me wolfie Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, stevehone said: i think if you look away from mainstream media you might find out what USA have been doing in Ukraine over the years that has totally pi55ed off Putin The man is a complete psycho and won’t stop until he has reinstated the USSR, Ukraine joining NATO would have meant it could never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Call me wolfie said: So what are you saying, do you not believe there’s a war going on in Ukraine started by the Russians. That has to be the most idiotic comment I’ve seen posted on this forum. He has actually said he thinks it is all done with actors. He actually said Russia weren’t going to invade it was all western propaganda and more wacky stuff you only get from the idiot corners of the internet 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 10 hours ago, Aries said: ..... f the negative comments seem to be coming from the Poles, and yet the same people seem happy for him to resume racing in their native Poland. How does that make sense? Not all Polish fans are happy for him to resume racing in their native Poland. Opinions are divided in the same way as in England. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 22 hours ago, neils said: He he has a Visa then? Saifutdinov is to return to the British league after a twelve-year break. (…) There were immediately speculations about the other two Russian speedway riders with a Polish passport and the potential chances, that is Artem Łaguta and Vadim Tarasenko could also sign a contract with an English or Swedish league club. (…) we inquired at source whether such a transfer would be possible and whether the announcement of Emil Sayfutdinov's contract at Ipswich Witches is formally approved by the FIM. Mikael Karlsson, head of the track racing commission of the Swedish motorcycle federation, spoke briefly but to the point on this matter. - According to the information I received from the FIM, three (Russian)riders with a Polish passport are allowed to start only in the Polish league. He repeated this answer to us twice for the sake of clarity. SVEMO does not expect Russian speedway riders with a Polish passport to join any Bauhaus-Ligan team in the 2023 season. Therefore, we have to wait for official announcements from the international motorcycle federation, and we hear in the environment that the consent for Sajfutdinov is a matter of a few days. For now, however, all formalities are beyond any binding Source: SportoweFakty.pl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 23 hours ago, Blupanther said: There are two types of people in this world. Those who believe all the propaganda they hear on television, and those who don't... And those who believe all the propaganda they read on twitter, and those who don't 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 I see there is now a report in Poland saying this might happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 hours ago, PolskiZuzel said: Saifutdinov is to return to the British league after a twelve-year break. (…) There were immediately speculations about the other two Russian speedway riders with a Polish passport and the potential chances, that is Artem Łaguta and Vadim Tarasenko could also sign a contract with an English or Swedish league club. (…) we inquired at source whether such a transfer would be possible and whether the announcement of Emil Sayfutdinov's contract at Ipswich Witches is formally approved by the FIM. Mikael Karlsson, head of the track racing commission of the Swedish motorcycle federation, spoke briefly but to the point on this matter. - According to the information I received from the FIM, three (Russian)riders with a Polish passport are allowed to start only in the Polish league. He repeated this answer to us twice for the sake of clarity. SVEMO does not expect Russian speedway riders with a Polish passport to join any Bauhaus-Ligan team in the 2023 season. Therefore, we have to wait for official announcements from the international motorcycle federation, and we hear in the environment that the consent for Sajfutdinov is a matter of a few days. For now, however, all formalities are beyond any binding Source: SportoweFakty.pl What about Chuganov... or Holta for that matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 6 hours ago, stevehone said: i think if you look away from mainstream media you might find out what USA have been doing in Ukraine over the years that has totally pi55ed off Putin Ah ..Away from the mainstream media Nutty right wing websites you mean lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, orion said: Ah ..Away from the mainstream media Nutty right wing websites you mean lol The Guardian is hardly right wing Mr Einstein... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/13/ukrainian-shell-russian-border-town-donetsk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Blupanther said: The Guardian is hardly right wing Mr Einstein... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/13/ukrainian-shell-russian-border-town-donetsk But it is mainstream media Einstein. Steve was saying we should look elsewhere for our info. Which is what Orion was replying to. And he was spot on with the source of most of your crazy posts Edited February 26, 2023 by iris123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 One fact He is Russian no getting away from that on a Polish licence loophole just the same as commonwealth riders coming in to NDL always have a family member that was British there not .now it's happening so let's get on with it British Speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Binman said: One fact He is Russian no getting away from that on a Polish licence loophole just the same as commonwealth riders coming in to NDL always have a family member that was British there not .now it's happening so let's get on with it British Speedway Not just a Polish licence and not even a new Polish licence. He has been a Polish citizen and licence holder since 2009 A point that could swing any argument against him is where he resided during 2022. I don't know the answer but prepared to plays devil's advocate Did he live in Russia or stay as a Polish resident? Given he couldn't ride anywhere he had no reason not to "go home" if that's how he saw it Doesn't prove any definitive reason to continue his ban or not but would add weight to the debate of either viewpoint IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 17 hours ago, Crumpet111 said: Maybe you should trot over to the Ukraine thread to post your views. This is actually an Ipswich speedway thread for us happy Witches fans. Glad you’re so happy with your teams choices and actions, have you ever stopped to think the timing of the announcement was carefully planned for the anniversary of the invasion for maximum media exposure? I’m also happy, safe in the knowledge that CVS would never stoop so low. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 There's so much Sayfutdinov will have to go through to get a work permit. He'll be invested as to family history i.e. Oligarch family members, any serving family members from Cold War era on, financial history etc etc. Lots of hoops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said: There's so much Sayfutdinov will have to go through to get a work permit. He'll be invested as to family history i.e. Oligarch family members, any serving family members from Cold War era on, financial history etc etc. Lots of hoops Perhaps where you put will have its already had to..... Perhaps where you put will be its already was.... Hoop - jump - through , hoop - jump through ..... Next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 On the one hand, prior to the invasion of Ukraine there were thousands of young Russians working in IT and finance jobs for non-Russian companies in the UK, a large proportion of them in and around London. Not multiple property-owning super-rich or agents of the Russian state. I presume they are still here, unless having made their own decision to leave. Then you have the head of the IOC apparently absurdly suggesting that Russian competitors could be allowed to compete as neutrals at the Paris olympic games in 2024, seemingly not realising that in a great many cases, those competitors would still be supported and even employed by the Russian state. Emil S seems to be an instance falling in the middle. I presume he still retains a Russian passport along with his Polish one. He has represented Russia relatively recently, and has not seemingly renounced his Russian-ness. But I'd doubt if he is currently funded or supported by the Russian state. Where does he keep his money? Does he have any private backing from Russian companies or Russia-domiciled individuals? Where did he live and get income from during 2022? Surely these kind of things would need to be clarified before clearance could be given - or maybe they already have been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 Seems a little bit of envy on here, great work by Ipswich to create such interest and excitement for British speedway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) On 2/25/2023 at 8:27 AM, Falcon1983 said: I have seen on Twitter this morning a few posts from different polish fans, all saying that Emil, when Russia invaded Ukraine, posted on social media a controversial image of him in his Russian fedefation race suit which shows support to his homeland Now as a forum member i know not to believe everything, but if that photo surfaces anywhere (if true) that can be quite damning for the club and its sponsors etc. At least we know this deal has been put together via some good sponsors of the club such as Guy and its not being funded by the Kremlin comrades I only ever saw him post the exact opposite on Twitter. Can't show it as his account his long gone, but there's this from Poland's TVP World's news feed, you can see the hashtags... Grigory Laguta on the other hand! Edited February 26, 2023 by Bojangles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 Ffs,,, how long is politics rubbish gonna go on for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) If the Visa is down to Suella and the Home Office he probably got it same day. After all the Government and its Ministers are awash with millions of Russian State sponsored money, gifts and hand outs. Emil will have no problem getting accommodation in London, Putin owns most of it. No doubt Boris and his mate Lebedev (the rich Lord not the speedway rider) will pop along to Fixhall to support him, on his way to Kyiv ready to turn his face the other way. Oh The irony, the hypocracy of the world we live in. Emil is a gifted speedway rider, let him entertain us, give those who govern us, those 2 faced parasites the grief instead. Emil is a mere pawn... Ipswich have done no wrong either. Edited February 26, 2023 by HGould Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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