Arch Stanton Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Humes average will be 4.06 or something like that Yeah you’re right. Could you in theory pull a fast one and use this 25% discount to strengthen pretty quickly? Signs on a 3 for team building purposes using the 25% and then replace with a rider using his real average when the season starts. Pretty shi tty way to treat someone though and I’m pretty sure Louis wouldn’t do that. Only Poole would stoop that low Edited January 8, 2023 by Arch Stanton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: But if Hume is signed on a 3.1 average & Batchelor is 5.6, who in the team is gonna drop 2.5 from their averages to allow that change? 13 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Humes average will be 4.06 or something like that To fit Batchelor in the rest of the team would have to be 5.57 below the points limit to allow that change, Hume going from 3 to 4, wouldn't make a difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Yeah you’re right. Could you in theory pull a fast one and use this 25% discount to strengthen pretty quickly? Signs on a 3 for team building purposes using the 25% and then replace with a rider using his real average when the season starts. Pretty shi tty way to treat someone though and I’m pretty sure Louis wouldn’t do that. Only Poole would stoop that low I assume Hume would keep his 3.1 ave till the first averages change then if he's still above 4, I guess they could sign a stronger rider, if there's one out there? However Hume riding in the 1-5 will probably see his average drop below 4 by the first set of new averages. Edited January 8, 2023 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 No,,, Hume will start season on his above 4 average,,, his 25% is only for team building. So many people don't seem to be getting this 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 Those riders on a guarantee could drop their average as it won't affect the pay packet, gotta play the system sometimes then redeclare stronger Riss could fall it fluctuated last season, im sure its a real discussion to be had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 Three Out of three for Jason https://twitter.com/SpeedwayGB/status/1612412733093281792?t=cO7DSKCQ5pLbOirSQxw7aA&s=19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, Badge said: Three Out of three for Jason https://twitter.com/SpeedwayGB/status/1612412733093281792?t=cO7DSKCQ5pLbOirSQxw7aA&s=19 Best ozy at the moment....how many did Z.Cook score ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: Best ozy at the moment....how many did Z.Cook score ... 8pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, Wolfie456 said: 8pts He's not going to score any more really...even tho its a weaker field .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 19 hours ago, szkocjasid said: But if Hume is signed on a 3.1 average & Batchelor is 5.6, who in the team is gonna drop 2.5 from their averages to allow that change? If anything, I would be expecting Rew average to rise dramatically - I really rate him and think he has the potential to score big at some tracks! ….and all the master plan to lower averages to sign Batchelor, only for him to drop his average too. Please! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Najjer said: If anything, I would be expecting Rew average to rise dramatically - I really rate him and think he has the potential to score big at some tracks! I think that’s what Louis is banking on. If Hume signs, he goes in to the 1-5 but the reality is he’ll be signing as a reserve. You’d expect Hume and Rew to swap after the first set of averages, then you’re looking at Rew being partnered at 2 with Doyle. Not a bad rider to learn off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: I think that’s what Louis is banking on. If Hume signs, he goes in to the 1-5 but the reality is he’ll be signing as a reserve. You’d expect Hume and Rew to swap after the first set of averages, then you’re looking at Rew being partnered at 2 with Doyle. Not a bad rider to learn off! True ...but weak reserves then .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: True ...but weak reserves then .... Reserve maybe, not reserves. Other than Flint, Jack Thomas will more than hold his own against all the others. There’s stronger reserves than Hume no doubt, but he’ll chip in particularly at home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 21 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Yeah you’re right. Could you in theory pull a fast one and use this 25% discount to strengthen pretty quickly? Signs on a 3 for team building purposes using the 25% and then replace with a rider using his real average when the season starts. Pretty shi tty way to treat someone though and I’m pretty sure Louis wouldn’t do that. Only Poole would stoop that low One other bonus to pulling the fast one is first two league meetings are H&A against Peterborough so the other riders wont have a need to throttle back as they will be getting pumped anyway 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Reserve maybe, not reserves. Other than Flint, Jack Thomas will more than hold his own against all the others. There’s stronger reserves than Hume no doubt, but he’ll chip in particularly at home. True ....Flint is the best RS....needs to prove it .....especially at home .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 On 1/8/2023 at 7:18 PM, TTT said: Don't know about anyone else but I wouldn't want Emil in my side if it resulted in Hume having to ride in the 1-5. You'd get more points out of an engine room combo. On 1/8/2023 at 7:47 PM, Arch Stanton said: Depends what you’re looking for as a fan. Would you rather pay your money and watch Emil? Or would you rather watch a Worrall/Cook combo (with all due respect to them) that would probably fetch more points? I’m with you I think I’d probably go for the strongest looking duo which gives the best chance of success. But I’ll bet there’s plenty who’d rather go for the Emil option even if that means looking weaker overall. I think you’d both be in the minority and not even close. Would you get more of a buzz queuing for the first meeting knowing you’re about to see a combo of Ritchie Worrall and Hans Andersen or Emil Sayfutdinov? I think the vast majority of supporters up and down the country would take the hit of having a weaker second rider if it meant watching Emil every other week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Steve Irving said: I think you’d both be in the minority and not even close. Would you get more of a buzz queuing for the first meeting knowing you’re about to see a combo of Ritchie Worrall and Hans Andersen or Emil Sayfutdinov? I think the vast majority of supporters up and down the country would take the hit of having a weaker second rider if it meant watching Emil every other week. I'd personally want a team that can challenge for the title when push comes to shove rather than an unbalanced side that'll rack up losses galore just for the sake of having another big name rider to watch. Tail end of Rew, Hume & Thomas doesn't hold up away from home and that's not good when bonus points will play a big role in 2023. I could honestly see Ipswich losing every meeting away from home next season with that tail end tbh. Could also lose a fair share at Home if Emil/Rew don't get dialled in from Day 1. So if I was in Louis' position I'm going all out for Richie Worrall who's a very experienced rider around all tracks and a very solid scorer around Foxhall then I'm going for Andersen or Batchelor to complete the side because Batchelor always rides well with Doyle, Andersen is brilliant around Foxhall and it'll keep Rew at reserve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 How many meeting until Rew gets an official average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, TTT said: I'd personally want a team that can challenge for the title when push comes to shove rather than an unbalanced side that'll rack up losses galore just for the sake of having another big name rider to watch. Tail end of Rew, Hume & Thomas doesn't hold up away from home and that's not good when bonus points will play a big role in 2023. I could honestly see Ipswich losing every meeting away from home next season with that tail end tbh. Could also lose a fair share at Home if Emil/Rew don't get dialled in from Day 1. So if I was in Louis' position I'm going all out for Richie Worrall who's a very experienced rider around all tracks and a very solid scorer around Foxhall then I'm going for Andersen or Batchelor to complete the side because Batchelor always rides well with Doyle, Andersen is brilliant around Foxhall and it'll keep Rew at reserve. Completely disagree. You don’t pass up the opportunity of signing Sayfutdinov if the chance is there. Just look at the excitement generated on your Peterborough thread when Carpman dangled his rod and hooked a few! A top two of Doyle and Sayfutdinov will get the turnstiles clicking and generate huge enthusiasm. Don’t completely agree with your tail end comments either. You can forget Thomas because every club has a rising star and he’ll be fine. Rew is a top talent, I’m convinced he’ll be fine too although you can never be sure until the action starts. That just leaves Hume who admittedly will be one of the weaker reserves in the league but he’s an improving rider who’ll mix it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 Surely Ippo fans would take it, no?? 1. Jason Doyle 10.32 2. Erik Riss 6.00 3. Emil Sayfutdinov 6.00 4. Richie Worrall 6.15 5. Danny King 6.41 6. Keynan Rew 4.00 7. Jack Thomas (RS) Total: 38.88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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