Hamish McRaker Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) Excuse me being naive and all that, but I'm curious and concerned about the statements which say that Tai Woffinden was "forced" to ride for Wroclaw yesterday. How can a rider be "forced"? Couldn't Woffinden have simply obtained the necessary medical certification which would presumably have voided insurance. Otherwise, it sounds like Polish speedway is more akin to Rollerball, as portrayed in the film of that name starring James Caan Edited September 25, 2023 by Hamish McRaker Factual 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 hours ago, mikebv said: Apart from the Credibility and Integrity of the Competition, which maintains the media coverage, huge sponsorship, and large fanbase, I cant think of any reasons why they dont use guests... Krysztof Harriski maybe could have rode for Wroclaw.... Credibility with a lucky loser lol .Integrity. forcing a unfit rider to ride.lol ..try again . You try to big up that the second leg was going to close without guests and you fell flat on your face as the final turn into a complete joke. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 55 minutes ago, orion said: Credibility with a lucky loser lol .Integrity. forcing a unfit rider to ride.lol ..try again . You try to big up that the second leg was going to close without guests and you fell flat on your face as the final turn into a complete joke. . I was amazed that they got so close in the first one.. But at least it keeps gravitas and kudos (and probably most importantly), big financial rewards in winning that competition Which is what all "proper" sporting comps should have... Lose that and the media goes... Then the sponsors... Then the fans... And any sporting contest can be one sided at any time, as that is just the nature of sport.. UK Speedway wont change though as the riders need the money, and the promoters cannot pay them enough to be "exclusive" to them individually... A shame, but that is simply how it is.. Looking forward to a good meeting tonight at the NSS, always great to see Emil and Doyle there... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 And on the subject of Polish speedway's credibility https://przegladsportowy.onet.pl/zuzel/ekstraliga/liderom-sparty-grozi-zawieszenie-klub-bedzie-sie-tlumaczyl/6zc2zvd?fbclid=IwAR1CWyunDmcfha5S5eyWVehG_14ySmEET-gX9a9oC6H_Mtq_dD909uXPqfE Could Artem and Tai really be that foolish? We await developments ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 45 minutes ago, arnieg said: And on the subject of Polish speedway's credibility https://przegladsportowy.onet.pl/zuzel/ekstraliga/liderom-sparty-grozi-zawieszenie-klub-bedzie-sie-tlumaczyl/6zc2zvd?fbclid=IwAR1CWyunDmcfha5S5eyWVehG_14ySmEET-gX9a9oC6H_Mtq_dD909uXPqfE Could Artem and Tai really be that foolish? We await developments ... Should be given a free pass. Wroclaw bosses should have the book thrown at them though because Speedway is a dangerous enough sport without higher ups forcing unfit riders to race a motorbike with no breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, TTT said: Should be given a free pass. Wroclaw bosses should have the book thrown at them though because Speedway is a dangerous enough sport without higher ups forcing unfit riders to race a motorbike with no breaks. They get gaps between races surely? Plenty of time for a brew... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 9 hours ago, mikebv said: Apart from the Credibility and Integrity of the Competition, which maintains the media coverage, huge sponsorship, and large fanbase, I cant think of any reasons why they dont use guests... Krysztof Harriski maybe could have rode for Wroclaw.... Because Lucky Loser just screams credibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 11 hours ago, Hamish McRaker said: Excuse me being naive and all that, but I'm curious and concerned about the statements which say that Tai Woffinden was "forced" to ride for Wroclaw yesterday. How can a rider be "forced"? Couldn't Woffinden have simply obtained the necessary medical certification which would presumably have voided insurance. Otherwise, it sounds like Polish speedway is more akin to Rollerball, as portrayed in the film of that name starring James Caan Wroclaw probably told him that if he doesn't ride, he won't be riding for the club next year. Laguta chose to ride as he wanted to repay the club's support. Wroclaw supported him a lot through the whole Polish/Russian citizenship process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 5 hours ago, arnieg said: And on the subject of Polish speedway's credibility https://przegladsportowy.onet.pl/zuzel/ekstraliga/liderom-sparty-grozi-zawieszenie-klub-bedzie-sie-tlumaczyl/6zc2zvd?fbclid=IwAR1CWyunDmcfha5S5eyWVehG_14ySmEET-gX9a9oC6H_Mtq_dD909uXPqfE Could Artem and Tai really be that foolish? We await developments ... It sounds rather sinister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted September 27, 2023 Report Share Posted September 27, 2023 On 9/25/2023 at 4:32 PM, arnieg said: And on the subject of Polish speedway's credibility https://przegladsportowy.onet.pl/zuzel/ekstraliga/liderom-sparty-grozi-zawieszenie-klub-bedzie-sie-tlumaczyl/6zc2zvd?fbclid=IwAR1CWyunDmcfha5S5eyWVehG_14ySmEET-gX9a9oC6H_Mtq_dD909uXPqfE Could Artem and Tai really be that foolish? We await developments ... PZM have said that, as neither Artem nor Tai were tested before during or after the meeting, there is now nothing for POLADA to find. Wrocław have clarified the treatments received as being anaesthetics rather than banned pain killers. So the much avowed integrity of Polish speedway is maintained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 Nicki Pedersen leaves Grudziadz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 Presume Dudek back to Zielona Góra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 someone must go for Kurtz in extra league~? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 hours ago, racers and royals said: Nicki Pedersen leaves Grudziadz. Is he riding again next year or will that be it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerM22 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 hours ago, JoeW436 said: Is he riding again next year or will that be it? Possibly in Lg. 1, seems he is/was in discussions with a couple of clubs. Ditched by his Danish club after 21 years too, the end can't be far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Massive signing Wiktor Przyjemski leaves Bydgoszcz for Lublin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 good move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 On 10/8/2023 at 7:24 PM, JoeW436 said: Is he riding again next year or will that be it? Nicki has signed for Rzeszow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 Will all be confirmed once the transfer window opens. LUBLIN -> Zmarzlik, Kubera, Lindgren, Holder, Cierniak, Przyjemski & Banbor WROCLAW -> Laguta, Woffinden, Janowski, Bewley, Kowalski & Andrzejewski TORUN -> Sayfutdinov, Dudek, R. Lambert, Lampart, Przedpelski, Affelt & Ruminski CZESTOCHOWA -> Madsen, Michelsen, Drabik, Woryna, M. Hansen, Kupiec & Karczewski GORZOW -> Vaculik, Thomsen, Wozniak, Fajfer, Miskowiak, Pollestad, Bartkowiak, Paluch & Lewandowski LESZNO -> Kolodziej, Smektala, Zengota, Lebedevs, Rew, Ratajczak, Mencel, Parnicki & Jablonski GRUDZIADZ -> Fricke, Doyle, Lidsey, Tarasenko, Pludra, Lobodzinski & Orgacki ZIELONA GORA -> Pi. Pawlicki, Pr. Pawlicki, Hampel, R. Jensen, Kvech, Sadurski & Hurysz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 40 minutes ago, TTT said: Will all be confirmed once the transfer window opens. LUBLIN -> Zmarzlik, Kubera, Lindgren, Holder, Cierniak, Przyjemski & Banbor WROCLAW -> Laguta, Woffinden, Janowski, Bewley, Kowalski & Andrzejewski TORUN -> Sayfutdinov, Dudek, R. Lambert, Lampart, Przedpelski, Affelt & Ruminski CZESTOCHOWA -> Madsen, Michelsen, Drabik, Woryna, M. Hansen, Kupiec & Karczewski GORZOW -> Vaculik, Thomsen, Wozniak, Fajfer, Miskowiak, Pollestad, Bartkowiak, Paluch & Lewandowski LESZNO -> Kolodziej, Smektala, Zengota, Lebedevs, Rew, Ratajczak, Mencel, Parnicki & Jablonski GRUDZIADZ -> Fricke, Doyle, Lidsey, Tarasenko, Pludra, Lobodzinski & Orgacki ZIELONA GORA -> Pi. Pawlicki, Pr. Pawlicki, Hampel, R. Jensen, Kvech, Sadurski & Hurysz Fiction rather than fact - eg Orgacki is nowhere near a Extraleague spot- Malkiewicz will ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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