Poole Vs Glasgow 28/09/22 play off SF 1st leg

[foreverblue]

1 hour ago, Fromafar said:

You certainly seem to dislike Brennan to say he does not have the ability yet is total nonsense.

He has never had a good meeting at Poole, if you have aspirations to be a top rider you have to be able to ride all tracks not just Belle Vue. 

[ragdoll64]

56 minutes ago, MD said:

Overhauled coming off the second bend. No one could make up ground on the rider in front not even the Poole heatleaders in the two heats Glasgow actually gated.

You are so spot on MD……..that is certainly not a racers track as proven by what you say. We were beaten fair and square by being out gated and/or swamped on the first and second bends. After that, there are no passing lines on that God awful track. 
No chance of pulling that back but at least we’ll see some speedway RACING in the return leg. 

[LisaColette]

I feel bad for @Jaizer and any Glasgow fans that travelled, but you just wound up the Poole team too much! 

Edited September 28, 2022 by lisa-colette

[Noelinho]

Just caught up on BSN. Might keep my rain off ticket for the Jubilee Cup. The second leg of this tie is utterly pointless. The writing was on the wall from heat two. When did Glasgow last lose that badly?

[Supersub]

6 hours ago, ragdoll64 said:

You are so spot on MD……..that is certainly not a racers track as proven by what you say. We were beaten fair and square by being out gated and/or swamped on the first and second bends. After that, there are no passing lines on that God awful track. 
No chance of pulling that back but at least we’ll see some speedway RACING in the return leg. 

Disagree. Surely Poole will race but with 30 points in hand, they won’t take any risks & if they gate all well & good. 

[HGould]

We're in to the nitty gritty of the season now and one aspect of Team Building starts to show through.

It's an aspect that Poole + Leicester (to a slightly lesser degree) have in common.

Look at the Poole team, 3 heat leaders whose career bread and butter has been UK speedway. No pretentions (especially at this stage of their career) of doing anything else than to get in to play offs and elongating their income drawing periods for another season. Two Aussies who t the best of my knowledge don't ride any where else. Ablitt trying to transitions up and only one with any pretentions of cracking Europe, and surprise surprise, he's the weakest link.

Leicester and not dis-similar certainly the other Worrall, Howarth, Thompsons and Mountain.

Comments a few times lately about Brennan and his attitude. Is he trying to run before he can walk, Undoubtedly the lads got ability, bags of it but s his head being turned by the bright lights of Poland and Europe. You can have all the ability in the world but if your attitude sucks, its a slippery slope. Obviously he and Basso want to do well in SGP2 and U23 Team Events but Glasgow pay their wages and I'd make the point that unlike a far more focussed Poole team last night, did Brennan and Basso actually put in 100% like at least 6 of the Poole team did?

That's the difference at the business end! of the season. 

 

[lewy]

Gate and go,which Poole did very well not much overtaking only one fast line. 

[LisaColette]

Tbf to Tom though he isn't great at Poole anyway. I'm assuming last season would have been his first time there for him with Glasgow. Should never have been at 5 for Glasgow in this leg, should have put Craig at 5 and Tom with Broc. 

Broc on the other hand can be very good at Poole, so not sure what the problem was with him last night. 

[SteveLyric2]

40 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Tbf to Tom though he isn't great at Poole anyway. I'm assuming last season would have been his first time there for him with Glasgow. Should never have been at 5 for Glasgow in this leg, should have put Craig at 5 and Tom with Broc. 

Broc on the other hand can be very good at Poole, so not sure what the problem was with him last night. 

Broc is not fit!! Shoulder giving him problems.

[szkocjasid]

1 hour ago, lisa-colette said:

Tbf to Tom though he isn't great at Poole anyway. I'm assuming last season would have been his first time there for him with Glasgow. Should never have been at 5 for Glasgow in this leg, should have put Craig at 5 and Tom with Broc. 

Broc on the other hand can be very good at Poole, so not sure what the problem was with him last night. 

At home I'd agree with Cook at 5 & Brennan at 3. But at Poole could have been considered damage limitation, if they expected both to struggle in heat 13, leave Cook at 3 for an easier heat 12?

Another option would have been Brennan at 3 with r/r at 4 (Cook 5). Knowing how strong Ben Cook has been at home recently, putting r/r at 4 would've meant Brennan getting his extra ride on the easier heat 14!

[topaz325]

Well done Poole a thoroughly professional job last night, the second leg is mere formality .

Not the most entertaining meeting but it is what it is, just showed in heat 15 if you gate well .....

[Steve Shovlar]

2 minutes ago, topaz325 said:

Well done Poole a thoroughly professional job last night, the second leg is mere formality .

Not the most entertaining meeting but it is what it is, just showed in heat 15 if you gate well .....

There was plenty of passing last night. Nearly all on the first lap as Glasgow were simply blown away. Brennan gated twice but was swallowed up on the first and second bend. Basso got passed twice while in second place. If a team is that poor, do you expect them to chase and pass a faster and more aggressive rider?

In heat 15 Glasgow gated on a 5-1 and Lawson got through to second. Steve Worrall is a gater so didn’t bust a gut when the job had been done already. 

It might not have been a great meeting for a neutral, as the teams were completely mis-matched. But the stadium was rocking last night and the atmosphere was brilliant. I doubt anyone other than a handful of Glasgow fans left the stadium last night feeling anything but elation.

[Mr Blobby]

9 hours ago, ragdoll64 said:

You are so spot on MD……..that is certainly not a racers track as proven by what you say. We were beaten fair and square by being out gated and/or swamped on the first and second bends. After that, there are no passing lines on that God awful track. 
No chance of pulling that back but at least we’ll see some speedway RACING in the return leg. 

Always makes me chuckles this when you get pumped. It’s the standard response now since the new regime have brainwashed some of you. “yeah they racing was bad, least we see proper racing at our place”. 
 

You weren’t competitive for there to be any passing as you were that far behind from the second the tapes went up.

[Neila]

8 hours ago, Noelinho said:

Just caught up on BSN. Might keep my rain off ticket for the Jubilee Cup. The second leg of this tie is utterly pointless. The writing was on the wall from heat two. When did Glasgow last lose that badly?

Don't give up hope yet !!! Look at 2018 when comets pulled back 28 points and beat Edinburgh in cup semi final  H18TORY

[ruckerroo]

A rusty side away from home against a bang in form team with all 7 fit and well on home shale, always going to be a home win , nobody i spose thought it would be so one sided

[bigcatdiary]

10 hours ago, Trees said:

So it was all on who made the gate .....

Unfortunately it’s nothing new

[Steve Shovlar]

5 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said:

Unfortunately it’s nothing new

Glasgow riders made the gate on several occasions. Trouble for them though is they were at the back coming down the back straight.

[Steve Shovlar]

37 minutes ago, Neila said:

Don't give up hope yet !!! Look at 2018 when comets pulled back 28 points and beat Edinburgh in cup semi final  H18TORY

I guess if there is oxygen in the air or a Tory wrecking the economy there is a chance. But the chances are Poole will win at Ashfield as well. Last night when the Cooks were interviewed they said Poole would be going there to win. Personally I would like to see safety first and don’t take risks but if you play safe you may invite trouble. In the quarter finals Poole went and won both legs and the same could easily happen here to keep the run going.

[Noelinho]

26 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

I guess if there is oxygen in the air or a Tory wrecking the economy there is a chance. But the chances are Poole will win at Ashfield as well. Last night when the Cooks were interviewed they said Poole would be going there to win. Personally I would like to see safety first and don’t take risks but if you play safe you may invite trouble. In the quarter finals Poole went and won both legs and the same could easily happen here to keep the run going.

At this time of year, the track is definitely very different for our riders. Ground is colder, harder, and much more of a leveller than in the warmer months.

[gmarsbar2]

12 hours ago, Noelinho said:

 When did Glasgow last lose that badly?

At Poole last November in the Playoff Final 56-34 also lost by the same score in the 2021 league fixture.

Signed 2 Poole riders to try and improve our chances, both have done well this season but same old story in the playoffs.

Edited September 29, 2022 by gmarsbar2