Beowulf Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 2 hours ago, arnieg said: A regulation that largely exists because Aces fans kicked up such a fuss about Wolves late season signing of Woffinden. [2016] That's highly ironic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PhilTheAce Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 What looks worse. us picking a guest for that certain track or having a permanent rider who’s the same calibre of fricke. Because now if we go wolves in final we go with Harris or if we go Sheffield probably go with Klindt. sounds mad that we can cherry pick riders for a certain track. can we choose a guest from a team that’s not made the final?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 2 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: Which rather begs the question why Belle Vue even tried to bring him in. Are you suggesting Mark Lemon doesn’t know or understand the Speedway Regulations. “In the best interest of the sport rule” maybe.Always a good stand by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one of clubs Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 We all know that regulations can be bent for certain individuals/ tracks that are “in the interests of speedway”. Having a Grand Prix rider possibly replacing another GP rider for a max of two meetings does not appear to be one of them. Whenever will the clowns who run our once great sport ever learn?. Robert Lambert seems to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSS1 Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: What looks worse. us picking a guest for that certain track or having a permanent rider who’s the same calibre of fricke. Because now if we go wolves in final we go with Harris or if we go Sheffield probably go with Klindt. sounds mad that we can cherry pick riders for a certain track. can we choose a guest from a team that’s not made the final?? Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: What looks worse. us picking a guest for that certain track or having a permanent rider who’s the same calibre of fricke. Because now if we go wolves in final we go with Harris or if we go Sheffield probably go with Klindt. sounds mad that we can cherry pick riders for a certain track. can we choose a guest from a team that’s not made the final?? Of course it makes more sense to potentially have four different riders riding in the play offs for the Aces, all from other teams in the same league, rather than making a signing to ride for them in all the matches... More sense to those who run the sport (appallingly), obviously.... They spend all season borrowing each others riders so I suppose four more times wont make much difference to how the sport is seen and judged... And whoever wins the league will get hardly a ripple of publicity anyway.. Just a shame an opportunity to being in another 'World Star' wasnt taken.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Can see both sides of this. Would have been great to have Robert here for four play off meetings but @NeilWatson has stated its against the regs and if so then for once the berks who run British Speedway have stuck to the rulebook and resisted special dispensation. Would also suggest that Lambert's annoyance about his flights should be towards BV if they advised him to book them without permission to ride. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 You can make two changes a season in between 25% and 75% of completed League fixtures except for proven long term injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 6 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: No there isn’t. They are still a member of the 1-7 they should be treated the same If you look at the GSAs the team consists of a 1-6 plus the Rising Star 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: If you look at the GSAs the team consists of a 1-6 plus the Rising Star So there’s no limit to the amount of times you can change your rising star? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 53 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Can see both sides of this. Would have been great to have Robert here for four play off meetings but @NeilWatson has stated its against the regs and if so then for once the berks who run British Speedway have stuck to the rulebook and resisted special dispensation. Would also suggest that Lambert's annoyance about his flights should be towards BV if they advised him to book them without permission to ride. Agree. Also, I can't decide if both parties have been really naive with regards to knowing the rules or really arrogant in thinking that they could do what they wanted regardless of the rules... Why would you book flights, make transport arrangements for mechanics and have kevlars made unless you had proper confirmation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Higher ups stop BV from making up a new set of rules that only suits them. Good on the higher ups for being professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Beowulf said: That's highly ironic. Not really both totally different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Can see both sides of this. Would have been great to have Robert here for four play off meetings but @NeilWatson has stated its against the regs and if so then for once the berks who run British Speedway have stuck to the rulebook and resisted special dispensation. Would also suggest that Lambert's annoyance about his flights should be towards BV if they advised him to book them without permission to ride. Or just maybe there is more to the story. Just maybe the BSPL did give permission to change thier mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, The Dog said: Agree. Also, I can't decide if both parties have been really naive with regards to knowing the rules or really arrogant in thinking that they could do what they wanted regardless of the rules... Why would you book flights, make transport arrangements for mechanics and have kevlars made unless you had proper confirmation? Yep wonder why you would do that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: Yep wonder why you would do that? Makes you wonder if Mark Lemon actually knows the rules, i can understand Belle Vue wanting Lambert and i expect he would have appreciated the extra pay days but you don't organise bikes, mechanics etc until it is a done deal, that would be crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 34 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: Or just maybe there is more to the story. Just maybe the BSPL did give permission to change thier mind. Wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if that was the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 3 hours ago, one of clubs said: We all know that regulations can be bent for certain individuals/ tracks that are “in the interests of speedway”. Having a Grand Prix rider possibly replacing another GP rider for a max of two meetings does not appear to be one of them. Whenever will the clowns who run our once great sport ever learn?. Robert Lambert seems to agree. It’s not a new regulation though and hasn’t been bent in the past. We lost Freddy and Jacob Thorssell to injury in the 2017 semi-final (against BV) and had to make do with Chris Harris and RR for both legs of the final against Swindon. Why should Belle Vue be treated any differently? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSS1 Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 2 hours ago, ouch said: You can make two changes a season in between 25% and 75% of completed League fixtures except for proven long term injury. It's ok for Sheffield to make 3 changes then ? And yes we did have a long term injury case closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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