Sheffield Tigers 2023

[The Third Man]

26 minutes ago, Hooky said:

Belle Vue bent the rules last year so Sheffield can do the same 

Just use Lambert as a guest in the play offs

Or sign another GP rider, I am sure BV won't want us to use a guest in the play offs

 

[Sir Sidney]

27 minutes ago, Hooky said:

Belle Vue bent the rules last year so Sheffield can do the same 

Belle Vue didn't bend the rules last year. They used them as written. 

[Hooky]

7 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said:

Belle Vue didn't bend the rules last year. They used them as written. 

No, they bent the rules.

[Sir Sidney]

21 minutes ago, Hooky said:

No, they bent the rules.

That's just your opinion, but not what the rules said. 

The SCB rules have so many holes in them any competent team manager should be able to find holes in them 

[The Third Man]

14 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said:

That's just your opinion, but not what the rules said. 

The SCB rules have so many holes in them any competent team manager should be able to find holes in them 

Then why did BV have to threaten legal action

[Sir Sidney]

6 minutes ago, The Third Man said:

Then why did BV have to threaten legal action

Because others incorrectly interpreted the rules and tried to block them replacing an injured rider, when the rules clearly allowed it. 

[mikebv]

1 hour ago, Sir Sidney said:

Belle Vue didn't bend the rules last year. They used them as written. 

No! No! Don't use facts in a discussion...

[mikebv]

26 minutes ago, The Third Man said:

Then why did BV have to threaten legal action

Because the rules were not being applied as they were written...

[LagutaRacingFan]

Artem Laguta would be the outstanding choice of guest.

 

[Ace no.5]

I would have no issue at all with Sheffield getting cover for an obvious and genuine injury to one of their top riders going into the playoffs (as happened with BV last season). I would find it quite comical, not to mention hypocritical however, if all the Tigers fans were to applaud this move after the rubbish most of them (few exceptions!) spouted last season and continue to do so!

Edited September 3, 2023 by Ace no.5

[foreverblue]

Well Sheffield could use Lambert or Fricke or Laguta, be quite ironic to use Lambert against Belle Vue. 

[RoundTheBoards]

21 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Well Sheffield could use Lambert or Fricke or Laguta, be quite ironic to use Lambert against Belle Vue. 

Can't use Lambert as a guest because he's on an assessed average.

[foreverblue]

12 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said:

Can't use Lambert as a guest because he's on an assessed average.

Quite funny if Fricke was used to beat his old team when he couldnt win with them last season.

[spin king]

1 hour ago, Ace no.5 said:

I would have no issue at all with Sheffield getting cover for an obvious and genuine injury to one of their top riders going into the playoffs (as happened with BV last season). I would find it quite comical, not to mention hypocritical however, if all the Tigers fans were to applaud this move after the rubbish they spouted last season and continue to do so!

I am actually take exception to that last comment;

Before the Grand Final started I posted the following on the Belle Vue v Sheffield Grand Final 1st leg thread.

For me Belle Vue start as rank favourites, and the Play Off Finals could be won by heat 10.

The signing of Robert Lambert number 4 in the world gives Belle Vue a massive advantage, they already had a decent side already either with Fricke or Rider Replacement.

Bringing in Lambert who has fallen into Belle Vue's lap is a Masterstroke, is it cheating?

I don't think so.

Will it make for a better more exciting Final?

I don't think so.

To start quoting Lambert's record and the fact that he has not rode Sheffield for a number years is bull crap, he is the World Number 4 for a reason.

Sheffield are new to the top league, and in our 2nd season we have made the Final, on step further than last season so the club is progressing. 

And after the 2nd leg had been raced I posted the following;

 Congratulations to Belle Vue in winning the Play Off Final.

The atmosphere on the night was electric, and credit has to be given to the Aces supporters who turned out in numbers.

Its a pity the camera's did not capture the atmosphere, as I can tell you the atmosphere was there.

The Aces supporters celebrated Polish style with smoke bombs and flares, which I did not mind apart from the smell, which smelt like dog rubbish.

The referee decisions were in my opinion mostly correct after looking at the replays on the phone.

I think Belle Vue came into the meeting to simply defend the 12 point lead and frustrate the Tigers, and we were chasing the in the meeting all night.

But cannot fault our riders who put in 100% effort, but the Aces were just to good for us over the two legged final, and the signing of Robert Lambert as I suspected swung the advantage to Belle Vue.

We now move onto the League Cup Final as consolation winning silverware against Kings Lynn so we are still in with a chance of winning something.

Finally for me the Play Off's should stay, the tension and excitement that they create means they should stay.    

 Post liked by many Aces fans, and was responded to by one Aces in the next post with these comments;

  Brilliant and honest post from a Tigers fan. A breath of fresh air.

And who posted that comment?

Aces No 5.

 

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[tocha]

4 hours ago, Sir Sidney said:

Just reintroduce Holder if he is fit enough

010.3.1 Cut Off Date
No team changes will be allowed after 28th August with the effective date 
being 31st August. Except riders returning to the team after injury who can 
only replace their original replacement.
 

 

Yes, but then we have this:

012.2 Final paragraph:-

A rider taken out of a team, Premiership or Championship, through injury, cannot be re-introduced in that team within 28 days.

[Andrew]

Tai replaced Jack on August 1st.

[LagutaRacingFan]

Surely Sheffield won't be allowed to bring in Jack Holder for Tai Woffinden?

Sheffield redeclared their 1-7 and Woffinden's new average is 8.85, whilst Jack Holder's average is 8.91.

If Sheffield want Woffinden, they would have to redeclare their 1-7. 

[Ace no.5]

6 hours ago, spin king said:

I am actually take exception to that last comment;

Before the Grand Final started I posted the following on the Belle Vue v Sheffield Grand Final 1st leg thread.

For me Belle Vue start as rank favourites, and the Play Off Finals could be won by heat 10.

The signing of Robert Lambert number 4 in the world gives Belle Vue a massive advantage, they already had a decent side already either with Fricke or Rider Replacement.

Bringing in Lambert who has fallen into Belle Vue's lap is a Masterstroke, is it cheating?

I don't think so.

Will it make for a better more exciting Final?

I don't think so.

To start quoting Lambert's record and the fact that he has not rode Sheffield for a number years is bull crap, he is the World Number 4 for a reason.

Sheffield are new to the top league, and in our 2nd season we have made the Final, on step further than last season so the club is progressing. 

And after the 2nd leg had been raced I posted the following;

 Congratulations to Belle Vue in winning the Play Off Final.

The atmosphere on the night was electric, and credit has to be given to the Aces supporters who turned out in numbers.

Its a pity the camera's did not capture the atmosphere, as I can tell you the atmosphere was there.

The Aces supporters celebrated Polish style with smoke bombs and flares, which I did not mind apart from the smell, which smelt like dog rubbish.

The referee decisions were in my opinion mostly correct after looking at the replays on the phone.

I think Belle Vue came into the meeting to simply defend the 12 point lead and frustrate the Tigers, and we were chasing the in the meeting all night.

But cannot fault our riders who put in 100% effort, but the Aces were just to good for us over the two legged final, and the signing of Robert Lambert as I suspected swung the advantage to Belle Vue.

We now move onto the League Cup Final as consolation winning silverware against Kings Lynn so we are still in with a chance of winning something.

Finally for me the Play Off's should stay, the tension and excitement that they create means they should stay.    

 Post liked by many Aces fans, and was responded to by one Aces in the next post with these comments;

  Brilliant and honest post from a Tigers fan. A breath of fresh air.

And who posted that comment?

Aces No 5.

 

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One of a minority, hence the "breath of fresh air" comment! I've seen far more "cheat" posts from Tigers (and they still throw it around now!) than I've seen honest posts like yours.

Maybe I should amend my original post to "after the rubbish most of them spouted last season and continue to do so!"

[Supersub]

6 hours ago, BassoRacingFan said:

Surely Sheffield won't be allowed to bring in Jack Holder for Tai Woffinden?

Sheffield redeclared their 1-7 and Woffinden's new average is 8.85, whilst Jack Holder's average is 8.91.

If Sheffield want Woffinden, they would have to redeclare their 1-7. 

Don’t think Jack will be riding in Premier again this season. What will Sheffield do now as it looks as if Tai will be out for a while

[ouch]

17 minutes ago, Supersub said:

Don’t think Jack will be riding in Premier again this season. What will Sheffield do now as it looks as if Tai will be out for a while

Tai has changed from being a 28 day facility rider to a full time team member. His 28 day period ended  last Wednesday 30th. Due to this and the ridiculous decision to revert to a ruling whereby you cannot sign a new team member as injury cover at play off time, it’s now down to guests or rider replacement.