kelvinht Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Will the Stars win? Yes When will we hear the team line ups? Maybe tomorrow Will we get an announcement of the dates for the remaining league match against BV or the cup final? No (don't be stupid!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Dead rubber, play offs Monday so I'm out and I rarely miss Wolves at Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 4 hours ago, kelvinht said: Will the Stars win? Yes When will we hear the team line ups? Maybe tomorrow Will we get an announcement of the dates for the remaining league match against BV or the cup final? No (don't be stupid!) I wouldn't think we will get an announcement on the outstanding Belle Vue and Sheffield meetings until the league positions are decided.Then we will know what dates are available.The cut off is Thursday so we will know after this when Belle Vue and Sheffield will be available.I would think/hope they have some provisional dates sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Possibly the matches could be held on the two dates Sheffield are not in the play off semis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, RS50 said: Possibly the matches could be held on the two dates Sheffield are not in the play off semis. They could,but as Sheffield could finish top or indeed 2nd or 3rd the dates won't be known until Thursday,although their play off match at home is already sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 Kinsley at reserve ffs.I would rather see them go with a lad who could have a chance to go a little further in the sport.Kinsley has had his chance and we can all see he has got to his limit.Why not give Thompson a go from Sheffield he isn't needed there Thursday or even Jenkins,Peterborough are not riding Thursday. It is said in the write up that they hopeful to confirm the dates for the final on Thursday,but it does say next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 11 hours ago, tellboy said: They could,but as Sheffield could finish top or indeed 2nd or 3rd the dates won't be known until Thursday,although their play off match at home is already sorted. Would make sense to use those dates. Sheffield still have the Ipswich match to schedule, two dates not available due to pairs, and the possibility of Sheffield making play off final. Not too many dates available before November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 44 minutes ago, RS50 said: Would make sense to use those dates. Sheffield still have the Ipswich match to schedule, two dates not available due to pairs, and the possibility of Sheffield making play off final. Not too many dates available before November. Ipswich are at home next Thursday in their play-off match which leaves Sheffield free as far as my calculations go.Those two cannot face each other so surely there is one date that can be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 7 hours ago, RS50 said: Would make sense to use those dates. Sheffield still have the Ipswich match to schedule, two dates not available due to pairs, and the possibility of Sheffield making play off final. Not too many dates available before November. Call me cynical, but I’m not convinced the Sheffield Ipswich fixture will be done. That meeting could well change the finishing order of the table, meaning the play off pairings would have ended up being wrong. Does it make a big difference? Possibly not, but it wouldn’t be ideal. I just think the finishing order at the cut off point (Thursday) will remain the finishing order. Could be wrong of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Call me cynical, but I’m not convinced the Sheffield Ipswich fixture will be done. That meeting could well change the finishing order of the table, meaning the play off pairings would have ended up being wrong. Does it make a big difference? Possibly not, but it wouldn’t be ideal. I just think the finishing order at the cut off point (Thursday) will remain the finishing order. Could be wrong of course! Sorry but you will be wrong- all league fixtures will be completed before the 31st of October. Edited September 21, 2022 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Sorry but you will be wrong- all league fixtures will be completed before the 31st of October. Fair enough, and no need to apologise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 I can understand no one being bothered in a meaningless fixture being completed after the cut offs but Sheffield v Ipswich would probably change finishing positions. Bonkers. British speedway tho 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Call me cynical, but I’m not convinced the Sheffield Ipswich fixture will be done. That meeting could well change the finishing order of the table, meaning the play off pairings would have ended up being wrong. Does it make a big difference? Possibly not, but it wouldn’t be ideal. I just think the finishing order at the cut off point (Thursday) will remain the finishing order. Could be wrong of course! 2 hours ago, bruno said: I can understand no one being bothered in a meaningless fixture being completed after the cut offs but Sheffield v Ipswich would probably change finishing positions. Bonkers. British speedway tho Totally shambolic and is part of the reason I (and many hundreds perhaps thousands) no longer attend The "top" league is not even sufficiently organised to get what is about half the traditional number of fixtures run Meetings that have a material impact on finishing positions and therefore the pairings for the league title deciding play offs not being run within cut off timescales is simply unacceptable at any level of sport let alone a fully professional top level 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 47 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Totally shambolic and is part of the reason I (and many hundreds perhaps thousands) no longer attend The "top" league is not even sufficiently organised to get what is about half the traditional number of fixtures run Meetings that have a material impact on finishing positions and therefore the pairings for the league title deciding play offs not being run within cut off timescales is simply unacceptable at any level of sport let alone a fully professional top level Shambolic and speedway,,, it's like a match made in heaven. If ever 2 words deserve to be in the same sentence,, it's those 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 We’ve 6 teams in the league for Christ sake, how we’ve got to the stage where there are outstanding fixtures to squeeze in when we’ve had between April and mid September is ridiculous but here we are. To ride play off meetings with pairings that could up being the wrong pairings is embarrassing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 12 hours ago, bruno said: I can understand no one being bothered in a meaningless fixture being completed after the cut offs but Sheffield v Ipswich would probably change finishing positions. Bonkers. British speedway tho If BV win at Sheffield and then at KL, the final table would look different again. Or they could draw both matches and win the Stupid Heat - that would balance it out, because BV haven't had the chance to experience the ultimate thrill of winning extra league points because of one specific result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 It is shocking to get to this stage of the season and they can't complete the league meetings by the cut off date to determine the final league positions.An even worse case scenario would have been if the team in 5th had a chance of getting into 4th but didnt complete their meetings in time.Things need to change going forward,will they i am unsure on that.Too much self interest in our sport still. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, tellboy said: It is shocking to get to this stage of the season and they can't complete the league meetings by the cut off date to determine the final league positions.An even worse case scenario would have been if the team in 5th had a chance of getting into 4th but didnt complete their meetings in time.Things need to change going forward,will they i am unsure on that.Too much self interest in our sport still. I think they would have moved cut off if that was the case. Also happened in the Champ as well. Plymouth Vs Glasgow league meeting next Tues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 Just now, lisa-colette said: I think they would have moved cut off if that was the case. Also happened in the Champ as well. Plymouth Vs Glasgow league meeting next Tues! But they shouldn't have to move the cut off point.I think by the 22nd of September all teams have had adequate amount of time to get all league fixtures done.We have had one of the driest Summers in years and yet there is still league fixtures to fit in.Shambolic is the word that springs to mind.Too many weeks have gone by with no fixtures.especially during the Summer holidays.There is no excuse for this to happen. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, tellboy said: But they shouldn't have to move the cut off point.I think by the 22nd of September all teams have had adequate amount of time to get all league fixtures done.We have had one of the driest Summers in years and yet there is still league fixtures to fit in.Shambolic is the word that springs to mind.Too many weeks have gone by with no fixtures.especially during the Summer holidays.There is no excuse for this to happen. Spot on totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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