Call me wolfie Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 6 hours ago, noaksey said: We really need a decent second heat leader to back up Masters Suggestions? personally I think a decent rider at reserve will make a big difference. Unless Josh Pickering or Charles Wright come to us I think we’re struggling for options to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted November 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Call me wolfie said: Suggestions? personally I think a decent rider at reserve will make a big difference. Unless Josh Pickering or Charles Wright come to us I think we’re struggling for options to be honest Very difficult, Belle Vue and Sheff had good heat leaders and look like doing so again, Wolves don't, I think we need an 8 pointer to back up Sam but genuinely can't think of anyone, all of the potentially available riders are 6 pointers, 7 at most. Maybe they think Becker will step up. A good number 6 will help but if its Nicholls or Andersen that might not make a huge difference in away matches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, TTT said: 1 to go you would think 1. Sam Masters 2. Steve Worrall 3. 6.31 (Any guesses?) 4. Ryan Douglas 5. Luke Becker 6. Scott Nicholls 7. Leon Flint Flint's Champ ave may leave him ineligible to be a RS. Be good if they posted a new RS list. Edited November 18, 2022 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 IS CVS continuing promoting on his own at Monmore ? I read in the programme at the end of lat season strong hints about him looking for support on the promotional side of the business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: IS CVS continuing promoting on his own at Monmore ? I read in the programme at the end of lat season strong hints about him looking for support on the promotional side of the business. Not heard anything to be honest, I dread to think what will happen when he finally calls it a day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 8:02 PM, noaksey said: Very difficult, Belle Vue and Sheff had good heat leaders and look like doing so again, Tigers yes, Aces no. Wright will likely be Aces 3rd averaging rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/18/2022 at 12:12 AM, szkocjasid said: Flint's Champ ave may leave him ineligible to be a RS. Be good if they posted a new RS list. It would, but if Wolves retain Flint & he is not an RS it is likely his average would get 25% reduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 19 hours ago, Col said: It would, but if Wolves retain Flint & he is not an RS it is likely his average would get 25% reduction. We won’t have Leon plus a rising star, we made that mistake this year, hopefully lessons have been learnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Call me wolfie said: We won’t have Leon plus a rising star, we made that mistake this year, hopefully lessons have been learnt. Adams has made mistakes before,and didn't learn from them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Tommy Sweetman said: Adams has made mistakes before,and didn't learn from them . They’ve gone on record as saying they know they got it wrong last year, it looks like we’re on course for pretty much the same 1 - 5 with maybe one change so read into that what you like. No 6 is where the strengthening will be without doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Call me wolfie said: They’ve gone on record as saying they know they got it wrong last year, it looks like we’re on course for pretty much the same 1 - 5 with maybe one change so read into that what you like. No 6 is where the strengthening will be without doubt. Numerous occasions he's shown untold loyalty to certain riders,and I think beyond doubt he wants to keep Leon whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Tommy Sweetman said: Numerous occasions he's shown untold loyalty to certain riders,and I think beyond doubt he wants to keep Leon whatever. I guarantee we won’t have a team with a rising star plus Leon. It doesn’t work and I’m 100% sure they realise that. I agree they like to be loyal to their riders but sometimes circumstance dictate it’s not possible. The big question is do we stick with Drew if Leon’s not on the list or look elsewhere. Edited November 22, 2022 by Call me wolfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Call me wolfie said: I guarantee we won’t have a team with a rising star plus Leon. It doesn’t work and I’m 100% sure they realise that. I agree they like to be loyal to their riders but sometimes circumstance dictate it’s not possible. The big question is do we stick with Drew if Leon’s not on the list or look elsewhere. That will depend on Ipswich. Hume isn’t on the rising Star list, so I’d think Kemp will come back in to contention at Foxhall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: That will depend on Ipswich. Hume isn’t on the rising Star list, so I’d think Kemp will come back in to contention at Foxhall. Kemp can’t ride foxhall very well and I don’t think the promotion will seek to use him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted November 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: Kemp can’t ride foxhall very well and I don’t think the promotion will seek to use him. He's not fantastic at Monmore either but the promotion seem to like him from what I've heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: That will depend on Ipswich. Hume isn’t on the rising Star list, so I’d think Kemp will come back in to contention at Foxhall. It will be his decision ultimately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 39 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: Kemp can’t ride foxhall very well and I don’t think the promotion will seek to use him. Rides it as well as anywhere else. Louis also said he didn’t want him gone more than a year, two years max. May have changed his mind of course. 34 minutes ago, Call me wolfie said: It will be his decision ultimately That’s another myth. He’ll go where he’s told. Riders don’t have the power people think they have. Harris had no desire to move to Foxhall after he’d agreed a deal with Peterborough a few seasons ago, but he had no choice. If Louis wants Kemp back at Ipswich as the rising star then he’ll be at Ipswich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Steve Irving said: Rides it as well as anywhere else. Louis also said he didn’t want him gone more than a year, two years max. May have changed his mind of course. That’s another myth. He’ll go where he’s told. Riders don’t have the power people think they have. Harris had no desire to move to Foxhall after he’d agreed a deal with Peterborough a few seasons ago, but he had no choice. If Louis wants Kemp back at Ipswich as the rising star then he’ll be at Ipswich. Don’t think it’s that cut and dried, why choose a rider who wants to be elsewhere? why do the likes of Freddy and Tai not ride for us if they do what they’re told? They’re our assets after all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Call me wolfie said: We won’t have Leon plus a rising star, we made that mistake this year, hopefully lessons have been learnt. Not really sure why CVS/Grizzly thought 1 heat leader, 4 just above average second strings & two inexperienced reserves would ever work. Flint has more experience now, might be Ok as better of two reserves. That isn't the issue, it is who can challenge Masters for Wolves #1 and score points in heat 13 & 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Racin Jason 72 said: Kemp can’t ride foxhall very well and I don’t think the promotion will seek to use him. 2 hours ago, noaksey said: He's not fantastic at Monmore either but the promotion seem to like him from what I've heard It is assumed that Brennan, Flint & Mountain are not on the RS list for 2023 season. If Hume isn't either but Kemp is then Kemp is the only rider on that list to show a smidge of points scoring ability at the NSS. Belle Vue should snap him.up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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