Wolves 2023

[Daniel Smith]

4 hours ago, noaksey said:

What is the criteria?

 

3 hours ago, Wolfie456 said:

Ex British Champion.

 

2 hours ago, SSL84 said:

Think he does as he rides on a acu licence and as got British citizenship 

 

2 hours ago, TTT said:

4.31 left if Schlein doesn't get his 2.5% reduction. 4.49 if he does get one.

The criteria was that rider's had to come through the National / Conference League system to gain the 2.5% reduction. 

[Bagpuss]

53 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

 

 

 

The criteria was that rider's had to come through the National / Conference League system to gain the 2.5% reduction. 

I'm sure I can remember Schlein riding for Sheffield Prowlers in the CL around 2002? 

[Col]

1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said:

The criteria was that rider's had to come through the National / Conference League system to gain the 2.5% reduction. 

I don't think it does, a fair few riders came to speedway in their 20's from motocross and never competed the NL/CL.  They get the 2.5%, the fact that Schlein has represented Australia at the SWC would mean he is not eligible for Team GB which is surely the reason why riders get 2.5% off their average.

[RoundTheBoards]

1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said:

The criteria was that rider's had to come through the National / Conference League system to gain the 2.5% reduction. 

Wrong.

The criteria is that the rider has to have been eligible to ride in the NDL (doesn't have to have ridden in it) and not have represented a foreign country.

So a British rider who went straight into Premiership or Championship and didn't ride in NDL would still get a reduction, because he was eligible for NDL, but someone who has represented Australia wouldn't.

[Wolfie456]

4 hours ago, TTT said:

Pencilling in Steve Worrall.

4.31 left if Schlein doesn't get his 2.5% reduction. 4.49 if he does get one.

PhilTheAce is onto something with Barker imo because he's the rider that standouts for the No.6 role with his average coming in at 4.30 after the 2.5% reduction.

Justin Sedgmen 4.44 or a newcomer to the league on a 4.00 are the only other riders worth signing at No.6 imo.

Barker is black listed at Monmore.Reckon it could be either B.Cook or J.Knudsen for No 6 position.

[Daniel Smith]

10 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said:

Wrong.

The criteria is that the rider has to have been eligible to ride in the NDL (doesn't have to have ridden in it) and not have represented a foreign country.

So a British rider who went straight into Premiership or Championship and didn't ride in NDL would still get a reduction, because he was eligible for NDL, but someone who has represented Australia wouldn't.

That's it, I remember now. 

It was to be as I'd said but there was complaints because Scott Nicholls didn't come through that system yet duel nationals had done. 

Wasn't there also some kind of row about duel nationals signing allegiance to the GB team & taking ACU licences? 

Either way, Schlein doesn't qualify for the 2.5%, that's the point. 

[Diamonds85]

So it's looking to be

1. Sam Masters

2. Steve Worrall

3. Rory Schlein

4. Ryan Douglas

5. Luke Becker

6. Ben Cook/Justin Sedgmen

7. Leon Flint

Somehow seems weaker than last year even though its just Schlein for Morris... like for like and an upgrade on Drew 

Edited December 2, 2022 by Diamonds85

[Call me wolfie]

1 minute ago, Diamonds85 said:

So it's looking to be

1. Sam Masters

2. Steve Worrall

3. Rory Schlein

4. Ryan Douglas

5. Luke Becker

6. Ben Cook/Justin Sedgmen

7. Leon Flint

Somehow seems weaker than last year even though its just Schlein for Morris... like for like 

If as said, Rory doesn't get 2.5% discount then Justin Sedgmen doesn't fit. Rory will at least match Nicks average from last year so yes probably like for like. It's No 6 that's key, a decent performing reserve would make so much difference compared to last year so it's crucial we choose the right one, the trouble is there don't seem many options apart from an untried one which is a gamble. Could Broc Nicol return and see if he's improved?

[noaksey]

40 minutes ago, Call me wolfie said:

If as said, Rory doesn't get 2.5% discount then Justin Sedgmen doesn't fit. Rory will at least match Nicks average from last year so yes probably like for like. It's No 6 that's key, a decent performing reserve would make so much difference compared to last year so it's crucial we choose the right one, the trouble is there don't seem many options apart from an untried one which is a gamble. Could Broc Nicol return and see if he's improved?

I'm scratching my head a bit about Wolves strategy here. We didn't have enough race winners last year particularly in away matches and in key heat 13/15's. Masters and Worrall are likely to average the same, Schlein might match Morris's figure so any improvement has to come from Becker and Douglas and the no 6. Flint might be a bit better also.

If Sedgmen doesn't fit and Cook goes to Peterborough there doesn't appear to me to be much to pick from.

Could be a repeat of last year at worst.

Edited December 2, 2022 by noaksey

[arnieg]

4 hours ago, RoundTheBoards said:

Wrong.

The criteria is that the rider has to have been eligible to ride in the NDL (doesn't have to have ridden in it) and not have represented a foreign country.

So a British rider who went straight into Premiership or Championship and didn't ride in NDL would still get a reduction, because he was eligible for NDL, but someone who has represented Australia wouldn't.

That is the correct summary of what the regulations actually say. 

[Beowulf]

2 hours ago, noaksey said:

I'm scratching my head a bit about Wolves strategy here. We didn't have enough race winners last year particularly in away matches and in key heat 13/15's. Masters and Worrall are likely to average the same, Schlein might match Morris's figure so any improvement has to come from Becker and Douglas and the no 6. Flint might be a bit better also.

If Sedgmen doesn't fit and Cook goes to Peterborough there doesn't appear to me to be much to pick from.

Could be a repeat of last year at worst.

Spot on.

[Diamonds85]

Whoops, wrong thread

Edited December 2, 2022 by Diamonds85

[Flappy]

Ben Cook is at Peterborough his brother is available though as is Jake Allen

[Call me wolfie]

15 hours ago, noaksey said:

I'm scratching my head a bit about Wolves strategy here. We didn't have enough race winners last year particularly in away matches and in key heat 13/15's. Masters and Worrall are likely to average the same, Schlein might match Morris's figure so any improvement has to come from Becker and Douglas and the no 6. Flint might be a bit better also.

If Sedgmen doesn't fit and Cook goes to Peterborough there doesn't appear to me to be much to pick from.

Could be a repeat of last year at worst.

It seems to me the best bet would be to scour the continent for a 4 point bargain similar to Ben Basso rather than going for the obvious ones, there must be some out there.

[Tommy Sweetman]

2 hours ago, Call me wolfie said:

It seems to me the best bet would be to scour the continent for a 4 point bargain similar to Ben Basso rather than going for the obvious ones, there must be some out there.

Think that might be to much of a gamble,could be no better off than last year tbh.Now it appears Justin Sedgman  wont fit,I'd go for Zach Cook,sure he'd adapt quickly to Monmore quite well. 

 

Edited December 3, 2022 by Tommy Sweetman

[DJWolves]

Might be being hasty ruling out Ben Barker

[Wolfie456]

14 minutes ago, DJWolves said:

Might be being hasty ruling out Ben Barker

Never going to happen 

[TTT]

CVS would have to bury the hatchet with Barker if nobody else is available just to avoid a repeat of the 2022 season.

I wouldn't rule it out either considering a couple of strong ITK's have hinted that this move could be happening.

[Tommy Sweetman]

7 hours ago, TTT said:

CVS would have to bury the hatchet with Barker if nobody else is available just to avoid a repeat of the 2022 season.

I wouldn't rule it out either considering a couple of strong ITK's have hinted that this move could be happening.

Barker can't handle the circuit,just to erratic around Monmore,watched him take down the safety fence on at least a couple of occasions. 

Edited December 3, 2022 by Tommy Sweetman

[Call me wolfie]

1 hour ago, Tommy Sweetman said:

Think that might be to much of a gamble,could be no better off than last year tbh.Now it appears Justin Sedgman  wont fit,I'd go for Zach Cook,sure he'd adapt quickly to Monmore quite well. 

 

Could be no better off with Zach, that's a gamble too. Finished the season at Poole with a lower average than Drew.

Anyone know what Ricky Wells average would be?