topaz325 Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: By Cook's expression on the parade, he was loving it. face full of smiles - which must have made a pleasant change to the past couple of months!! Yes he has had some injuries. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, Noelinho said: Yes, I agree with a lot of this, I’ll just add one point. The Glasgow promotion are really keen to make sure racing at Ashfield is exciting. This is 100% the right attitude and it shows in the product. I understand and agree with calling off meetings ahead of time if they think the track might be OK to ride but rubbish for racing. Speedway is a sport, but it must also be entertaining and prioritising this is absolutely a good thing to do. Ashfield is an incredible track when the track staff have been able to do their job as they like to. There may be other tracks that do it just as well, but no one does it better. However, once a meeting has started, I do think the priority has to be completing the meeting is more important than the quality of racing, as long as the track isn’t unreasonable to ride on. I think that was the crux of the issue on Sunday. Obviously the meeting is in the referee’s gift, but there was too much noise on Sunday of “yeah, but the spectacle might be better another day”. It might be, but we’re here now, and people generally understand the affect of weather on racing quality in speedway. Alternatively, if the spectacle isn’t really the reason for the call off, it would probably be better not to mention it. I agree with a lot your saying,but the crux of the issue on Sunday was in doubt and a bit dubious.IMO.History now though,but did it do the sport any favours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 5 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: The track was fine on Sunday but the ref and a couple of Glasgow riders didn’t fancy it. Glasgow manager argued that if it rained again the result could be called at heat ten. That issue really is no longer valid. It really wasn’t fine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Fromafar said: The whole situation regarding wet tracks and speedway is completely out of hand.The Refs have no control,it’s simply Health and and Safety rules. We have situations like “ it’s rideable not raceable” were thinking of the fans,that’s a lot of “bullsh#t.The riders know the meeting will have to be re-run. In Testimonials and Open Meetings they are willing to ride round on tracks that’s not raceable just too collect the money knowing it will probably NOT be re-run. Speedway is a dangerous sport whether the track is wet or dry. Excuses not to ride are running out weather or track used all the time.Fans are getting fed up .IMO. The fans that say we want see decent racing usually get “Gate And Go “racing in UK,on dry tracks and covered in dust,but Hey the riders are Happy. PS The throttle works both ways,that doesn’t seem to be the case nowadays though. A fair bit of sense spoken here Fromafar……..BUT……..I’ve got to say I’ve watched a good few meetings over the years, especially in the 60’s that have been run in dreadful conditions….(sawdust and overalls come to mind) and it was not nice to watch at all. Speedway should be spectacular and if a track is really greasy it is anything but. Regarding the throttle working both ways (I hate that saying), modern bikes are totally different from old uprights and react totally differently. Try throttling off when in full flight on a bend and see where it gets you……..through the fence, that’s where. For me, it’s a very fine line between continuing with a meeting or abandoning it. I thought Sunday would have turned into a disaster had it continued and that the correct decision was made. As far as speedway being spectacular is concerned…..it was never going to be on Sunday. Having said that though…….it wasn’t yesterday either……lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, ragdoll64 said: A fair bit of sense spoken here Fromafar……..BUT……..I’ve got to say I’ve watched a good few meetings over the years, especially in the 60’s that have been run in dreadful conditions….(sawdust and overalls come to mind) and it was not nice to watch at all. Speedway should be spectacular and if a track is really greasy it is anything but. Regarding the throttle working both ways (I hate that saying), modern bikes are totally different from old uprights and react totally differently. Try throttling off when in full flight on a bend and see where it gets you……..through the fence, that’s where. For me, it’s a very fine line between continuing with a meeting or abandoning it. I thought Sunday would have turned into a disaster had it continued and that the correct decision was made. As far as speedway being spectacular is concerned…..it was never going to be on Sunday. Having said that though…….it wasn’t yesterday either……lol Have to agree to an extent regarding throttle control,but surely the set up matters more in wet conditions and can be geared to suit. The track was set up strange on Sunday very little dirt on the inside line ( meaning less than usual IMO)and was bone track underneath after the light watering that it was given before the meeting started,therefore when the rain came the inside became very slippy hence the reason they were trying to rough it up .I personally though it would have been Ok if the rain didn’t come back,but who’s to know the it’s riders have to ride it.These decisions though are certainly harming the sport.A forecast of rain on the the day means they should just cancel the meeting.(that’s what it’s coming to more and more). Very seldom a meeting is run in any wet conditions .The fans will just stay at home.If it’s streamed even more so. Edited September 29, 2022 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Gazc said: It really wasn’t fine. Maybe not fine but looked raceable and they should at least have had another race before the decision was made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: Maybe not fine but looked raceable and they should at least have had another race before the decision was made. It wasn't raceable in the slightest Stevie Wonder would have seen that it wasn't raceable , 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 32 minutes ago, Gazc said: It wasn't raceable in the slightest Stevie Wonder would have seen that it wasn't raceable , Sedgeman thought it was raceable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Sedgeman thought it was raceable If you gated you would be fine not much racing happening behind though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Sedgeman thought it was raceable And King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: And King The referee didn’t and he is the only one that matters so wether Sedgemen or King did is utter irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, Gazc said: If you gated you would be fine not much racing happening behind though. There were many passes last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, foreverblue said: There were many passes last night The track wasn’t wet last night and my own personal opinion is if you think there were many passes you must be easily pleased. Only my opinion of course as you have yours. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gazc said: The track wasn’t wet last night and my own personal opinion is if you think there were many passes you must be easily pleased. Only my opinion of course as you have yours. If it's your team getting passed you feel differently. Very few meetings have passes in every race. You obviously think there will be more passes Saturday than there were last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, foreverblue said: If it's your team getting passed you feel differently. Very few meetings have passes in every race. You obviously think there will be more passes Saturday than there were last night. You Mystic Meg? or just another Poole phisherman. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 24 minutes ago, foreverblue said: If it's your team getting passed you feel differently. Very few meetings have passes in every race. You obviously think there will be more passes Saturday than there were last night. Crystal ball needs batteries so I have no idea if there will be more or less. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirao Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Tomorrows meeting must be in severe doubt, what are the possible options regarding a new date? Does Ben Basso have Swedish or Danish commitments next week? Poole are at Redcar in the KO Cup next Friday so that's ruled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherborne Green Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Weather looks clear on Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 12 hours ago, Gazc said: Crystal ball needs batteries so I have no idea if there will be more or less. Considering the forecast, can you tell me why you are racing Saturday and not Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Considering the forecast, can you tell me why you are racing Saturday and not Sunday. I will buy batteries today and let you know. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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