Glasgow v Poole/Plymouth Sunday 25 September 2022 - Semi-final Championship Play offs

[Weeyin]

4 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

It will definitely mess Craig Cook's head up if he gets cheered at Poole. Been boo'd every time for last 5 years or so! 

So you think that is a good idea to mess with someone 's head who struggles with their mental health, shame on you, and before you comment I work in Mental health and can see the damage done by such simple things that folk that have never had such issues don't understand

[Steve Shovlar]

Craig Cook expects it and it doesn’t seem to affect him. I am not sure of the reason why he gets booed at Poole. I can’t think of anything he has ever done to warrant it. 

[MD]

2 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Craig Cook expects it and it doesn’t seem to affect him. I am not sure of the reason why he gets booed at Poole. I can’t think of anything he has ever done to warrant it. 

Took Grajczonek off on the fourth bend in 2018 or 2019 when riding for KL.

[Fromafar]

Better hope long range Weather Forecast is not correct.It’s pretty dire for Friday and certainly mixed for Sat.

[Steve Shovlar]

Unless the Glasgow track is underwater the meeting will go ahead. Both teams now want it done and dusted. Glasgow have no chance now so what’s the point on waiting for good track conditions? Rideable is good enough.

[Cerro]

6 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Unless the Glasgow track is underwater the meeting will go ahead. Both teams now want it done and dusted. Glasgow have no chance now so what’s the point on waiting for good track conditions? Rideable is good enough.

Agreed. Good luck in the final Steve

[Fromafar]

7 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Unless the Glasgow track is underwater the meeting will go ahead. Both teams now want it done and dusted. Glasgow have no chance now so what’s the point on waiting for good track conditions? Rideable is good enough.

It might well be.It was certainly rideable on Sunday so can’t see why riders will change there stance if you are correct about the track.

[LisaColette]

6 hours ago, Gazc said:

Boy seen the Light and the splash the cash Tigers offered him what he was worth.

Just thought I would add the splash the cash bit before the usual suspects do.

Can’t blame the boy for that , In all seriousness though If Poole rode any other night than a Wednesday he probably would still be there.

Even Adam Roynon said it!! 

[stevehone]

7 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Unless the Glasgow track is underwater the meeting will go ahead. Both teams now want it done and dusted. Glasgow have no chance now so what’s the point on waiting for good track conditions? Rideable is good enough.

But surely if the track is any worse than it was on Sunday and they ride, the ‘rider safety’ excuse goes out the window?

[Steve Shovlar]

4 hours ago, stevehone said:

But surely if the track is any worse than it was on Sunday and they ride, the ‘rider safety’ excuse goes out the window?

The track was fine on Sunday but the ref and a couple of Glasgow riders didn’t fancy it. Glasgow manager argued that if it rained again the result could be called at heat ten. That issue really is no longer valid.

[topaz325]

So con the public who pay to see 15 heats of racing , not trundling around on a “rideable “ track.

[Fromafar]

57 minutes ago, topaz325 said:

So con the public who pay to see 15 heats of racing , not trundling around on a “rideable “ track.

The whole situation regarding wet tracks and speedway is completely out of hand.The Refs have no control,it’s simply Health and and Safety rules.

We have situations like “ it’s rideable not raceable” were thinking of the fans,that’s a lot of “bullsh#t.The riders know the meeting will have to be re-run.

In Testimonials and Open Meetings they are willing to ride round on tracks that’s not raceable just too collect the money knowing it will probably NOT be re-run.

Speedway is a dangerous sport whether the track is wet or dry.

Excuses not to ride are running  out weather or track used all the time.Fans are getting fed up .IMO.

The fans that say we want see decent racing usually get “Gate And Go “racing in UK,on dry tracks and covered in dust,but Hey the riders are Happy.

PS

The throttle works both ways,that doesn’t seem to be the case nowadays though.

Edited September 29, 2022 by Fromafar

[topaz325]

True I have witnessed many meetings in wet sloppy conditions near the day of the season  just to get the meeting completed , indeed watched a Pairs event  at Worky when the conditions were less than ideal which was curtailed so as to get a result.

[Wee Eck]

13 hours ago, Cookiefan said:

So you think that is a good idea to mess with someone 's head who struggles with their mental health, shame on you, and before you comment I work in Mental health and can see the damage done by such simple things that folk that have never had such issues don't understand

I’m not sure any rider takes serioudiy being booed when being. They know that almost invariably, it’s a bit of fun and neither the rider nor the spectators are upset by it. If the riders are, they’re in the wrong job. There is a big gulf between genuine banter and abuse - being booed on the parade is not abuse. 

[SteveLyric2]

1 hour ago, topaz325 said:

So con the public who pay to see 15 heats of racing , not trundling around on a “rideable “ track.

so did the public go away feeling conned after 5 heats?

[topaz325]

1 minute ago, Skidder1 said:

so did the public go away feeling conned after 5 heats?

Probably not but 10 heats yes.

[SteveLyric2]

30 minutes ago, Wee Eck said:

I’m not sure any rider takes serioudiy being booed when being. They know that almost invariably, it’s a bit of fun and neither the rider nor the spectators are upset by it. If the riders are, they’re in the wrong job. There is a big gulf between genuine banter and abuse - being booed on the parade is not abuse. 

By Cook's expression on the parade, he was loving it. face full of smiles - which must have made a pleasant change to the past couple of months!!

[LisaColette]

21 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

By Cook's expression on the parade, he was loving it. face full of smiles - which must have made a pleasant change to the past couple of months!!

Yeah. He always laughing when he gets boo'd at Poole. 

When I said about cheering him 'to mess his head up' I just meant that he would be surprised so might distract him a bit from preparing for his first race. Not that it would actually mess his head up! I mean come on, how does cheering from the grandstand do that. 

[Noelinho]

2 hours ago, Fromafar said:

The whole situation regarding wet tracks and speedway is completely out of hand.The Refs have no control,it’s simply Health and and Safety rules.

We have situations like “ it’s rideable not raceable” were thinking of the fans,that’s a lot of “bullsh#t.The riders know the meeting will have to be re-run.

In Testimonials and Open Meetings they are willing to ride round on tracks that’s not raceable just too collect the money knowing it will probably NOT be re-run.

Speedway is a dangerous sport whether the track is wet or dry.

Excuses not to ride are running  out weather or track used all the time.Fans are getting fed up .IMO.

The fans that say we want see decent racing usually get “Gate And Go “racing in UK,on dry tracks and covered in dust,but Hey the riders are Happy.

PS

The throttle works both ways,that doesn’t seem to be the case nowadays though.

Yes, I agree with a lot of this, I’ll just add one point.

The Glasgow promotion are really keen to make sure racing at Ashfield is exciting. This is 100% the right attitude and it shows in the product. I understand and agree with calling off meetings ahead of time if they think the track might be OK to ride but rubbish for racing. Speedway is a sport, but it must also be entertaining and prioritising this is absolutely a good thing to do. Ashfield is an incredible track when the track staff have been able to do their job as they like to. There may be other tracks that do it just as well, but no one does it better.

However, once a meeting has started, I do think the priority has to be completing the meeting is more important than the quality of racing, as long as the track isn’t unreasonable to ride on. I think that was the crux of the issue on Sunday.

Obviously the meeting is in the referee’s gift, but there was too much noise on Sunday of “yeah, but the spectacle might be better another day”. It might be, but we’re here now, and people generally understand the affect of weather on racing quality in speedway.

Alternatively, if the spectacle isn’t really the reason for the call off, it would probably be better not to mention it.

[Noelinho]

1 hour ago, Skidder1 said:

so did the public go away feeling conned after 5 heats?

I didn’t, as I got a rain off ticket so I’ll get in free next time. After ten heats, I’d have felt conned, but mainly because I think it was possible to get all 15 in.