OveFundinFan Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 52 minutes ago, eric i said: Its going to be a bit odd seeing the Russians doing well in the league and not allowed to ride in the GPs. Are they in the league, is that confirmed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 No real surprises , thought Rasmus Jensen might have got a chance but they have went with Thomsen which is understandable . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Dull.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, frigbo said: Dull.... Would you rather have a bunch of hand-picked "entertainers" to vie for an "official" World Championship, or 13/14 of the World's top 15 riders? Edited October 4, 2022 by chunky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzo558 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 As much as I would have liked to see someone other than Thomsen a problem was also the unfortunate fact that Holder and Fricke made it through the qualifier. Fair play to them but Fricke only reaching 1 semi and Holder two this whole season I would have liked to see someone other than them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Lorenzo558 said: As much as I would have liked to see someone other than Thomsen a problem was also the unfortunate fact that Holder and Fricke made it through the qualifier. Fair play to them but Fricke only reaching 1 semi and Holder two this whole season I would have liked to see someone other than them Fricke didn't, was just lucky Bewley made the top 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzo558 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: Fricke didn't, was just lucky Bewley made the top 6 Yes otherwise we could have got a more fun and better rider in that wildcard in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, chunky said: Would you rather have a bunch of hand-picked "entertainers" to vie for an "official" World Championship, or 13/14 of the World's top 15 riders? Spot on... For those riding next year I would say Fricke, Holder and Nilsson would be the only ones that you could have a debate about... None of whom are HL's in Poland's top league. .. Kolodziej, Laguta and Sayfutdinov would be their natural replacements I would suggest, and would improve the competition... The like of Kubera is developing in the right direction but is still not of that level.. However, those given a Wild Card can 100% put up the strongest case to deserve one, and will keep the competition clearly the best in the world.... It's just great to see the UK having 20% of the regulars.... And when Tai Woffinden is your third best rider the National team are in very good health. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 I believe the only way Laguta or Sayfutinov will be allowed to return to SGP is they take out another nations licence & go through the qualification process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Spot on... For those riding next year I would say Fricke, Holder and Nilsson would be the only ones that you could have a debate about... None of whom are HL's in Poland's top league. .. Kolodziej, Laguta and Sayfutdinov would be their natural replacements I would suggest, and would improve the competition... The like of Kubera is developing in the right direction but is still not of that level.. However, those given a Wild Card can 100% put up the strongest case to deserve one, and will keep the competition clearly the best in the world.... It's just great to see the UK having 20% of the regulars.... And when Tai Woffinden is your third best rider the National team are in very good health. ... I rate Fricke, but he seemed to tail off at the end of the season, as did Holder. I still feel they both have the ability and potential. We've heard rumors about Sayfutdinov retiring, but Laguta would obviously strengthen the field. I am not convinced that Kubera et all would strengthen it - yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 9 hours ago, stevehone said: 2023 FIM SPEEDWAY GRAND PRIX LINE-UP (in FIM ranking order – rider numbers to be confirmed) 1. Bartosz Zmarzlik (Poland) 2. Leon Madsen (Denmark) 3. Maciej Janowski (Poland) 4. Fredrik Lindgren (Sweden) 5. Robert Lambert (Great Britain) 6. Dan Bewley (Great Britain) 7. Patryk Dudek (Poland) 8. Tai Woffinden (Great Britain) 9. Martin Vaculik (Slovakia) 10. Jason Doyle (Australia) 11. Mikkel Michelsen (Denmark) 12. Jack Holder (Australia) 13. Max Fricke (Australia) 14. Anders Thomsen (Denmark) 15. Kim Nilsson (Sweden) SUBSTITUTES 1. Andzejs Lebedevs (Latvia)2. Jan Kvech (Czech Republic) 3. Kai Huckenbeck (Germany) 4. Luke Becker (USA) 5. Dimitri Berge (France) 6. Timi Salonen (Finland) 7. Marko Levishyn (Ukraine) What I don't like about the riding order is Kim Nilsson deserves his place more than 8 riders who have a better ranking via his GP Challenge win, but of he's ever level on countback in the series, he'll be ranked lower! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Technik said: I believe the only way Laguta or Sayfutinov will be allowed to return to SGP is they take out another nations licence & go through the qualification process I agree, IF they come back they must go through the GP Challenge or Euro championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) The world cup this year was much better to watch - the Finns, a Latvian or Ukrainian I think (not sure I remember right) but they were unexpectedly successful. That's what the GP series lacks for me. I will hope Kim Nilsson proves the naysayers wrong. Edited October 4, 2022 by SPEEDY69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8gdp Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Lorenzo558 said: As much as I would have liked to see someone other than Thomsen a problem was also the unfortunate fact that Holder and Fricke made it through the qualifier. Fair play to them but Fricke only reaching 1 semi and Holder two this whole season I would have liked to see someone other than them Fricke won a gp round this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 To remind yourself who scored what in each round, it’s all tabulated on FIM Speedway website. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greeno1861 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 22 hours ago, chunky said: As I said, he is clearly still one of the Top 15 riders in the world, and as you say, he knows how to match - and beat - Zmarzlik. Aye. Just to be clear mate I wasn't having a pop at you, I was just building on your point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Greeno1861 said: Aye. Just to be clear mate I wasn't having a pop at you, I was just building on your point! Oh no, I never thought you were! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greeno1861 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 hours ago, mikebv said: Spot on... For those riding next year I would say Fricke, Holder and Nilsson would be the only ones that you could have a debate about... None of whom are HL's in Poland's top league. .. Kolodziej, Laguta and Sayfutdinov would be their natural replacements I would suggest, and would improve the competition... The like of Kubera is developing in the right direction but is still not of that level.. However, those given a Wild Card can 100% put up the strongest case to deserve one, and will keep the competition clearly the best in the world.... It's just great to see the UK having 20% of the regulars.... And when Tai Woffinden is your third best rider the National team are in very good health. ... As someone who grew up in the era of Bomber, Scotty and Rico, having Tai as our number 3 rider is one hell of a statement! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 If you replaced Nilsson and Holder with Laguta and Emil I think you'd have one of the strongest lineups in many years. Still at least Holder and Nilsson will keep each other company at the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Having SO many wildcards, where is the jeopardy? Some riders can just plod along "safe" in the knowledge that they'll get a wildcard if they miss a round due to "injury" if they're having an average season. Those riders who do go through the qualifying series don't come up against these "world class" riders in world championship qualifying events so don't have the opportunity to compete at the level needed to make the grade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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