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10 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

He didn't but Bewley did and he moves up as Bewley qualified from this years' gp. Or they could do what they did last year when they picked Holder and Bewley and ignored the next places from the GP challenge?

Thanks, forgot he was 4th in GPChallenge, and that was after I put him in my list for next year I put up on here on Sunday. Doh!

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2 hours ago, chunky said:

Particularly as you get older...

Thing is, people say about Vaculik and Thomsen getting wild cards because of their injuries, but what about Woffinden?  Granted, he didn't miss full meetings, but he was unfit at Cardiff, and missed a couple of rides. If it hadn't been for that, HE could have made top 6!

I really don't get the Woffy hate on here. Granted he's not the top dog he's used to be, but he's still getting to semis/finals, still has moments of pure magic, and if he can stay injury free (big if I know) is one of the few who can get close to Bartosz. 

 

 

 

Yet some on here go on like he's Scott Nicholls with the ego of Nikki

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3 hours ago, Greeno1861 said:

I really don't get the Woffy hate on here. Granted he's not the top dog he's used to be, but he's still getting to semis/finals, still has moments of pure magic, and if he can stay injury free (big if I know) is one of the few who can get close to Bartosz.

As I said, he is clearly still one of the Top 15 riders in the world, and as you say, he knows how to match - and beat - Zmarzlik.

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2023 FIM SPEEDWAY GRAND PRIX LINE-UP (in FIM ranking order – rider numbers to be confirmed)

1. Bartosz Zmarzlik (Poland)

2. Leon Madsen (Denmark)

3. Maciej Janowski (Poland)

4. Fredrik Lindgren (Sweden)

5. Robert Lambert (Great Britain)

6. Dan Bewley (Great Britain)

7. Patryk Dudek (Poland)

8. Tai Woffinden (Great Britain)

9. Martin Vaculik (Slovakia)

10. Jason Doyle (Australia)

11. Mikkel Michelsen (Denmark)

12. Jack Holder (Australia)

13. Max Fricke (Australia)

14. Anders Thomsen (Denmark)

15. Kim Nilsson (Sweden)

 

SUBSTITUTES

1. Andzejs Lebedevs (Latvia)

2. Jan Kvech (Czech Republic)

3. Kai Huckenbeck (Germany)

4. Luke Becker (USA)

5. Dimitri Berge (France)

6. Timi Salonen (Finland)

7. Marko Levishyn (Ukraine)

 

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8 minutes ago, TTT said:

Well that's Zmarzlik's 4th world title already sealed.

Terrible picks. Series will be even weaker next season with Kim Nilsson coming in for Przedpelski.

So Kim Nilsson will do worse than Przedpelski?

The only missing rider that would have made the series stronger is probably Dominik Kubera, but there was no chance they were going to pick another Pole as well as Dudek.

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If you want the GP series to be the best riders in the world then this has to be the correct set of riders. [Pending the reintroduction  of Laguta and Sayfutdinov ]

Creative choices for the reserve list.

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27 minutes ago, Wee Eck said:

Nilsson wasn’t a pick. He qualified by right through the GP challenge. 

Has more right to be in the series than a lot of the others who elected not to qualify and rely on their past performances

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Well, I picked the 15 plus Lebedevs as first series reserve.  Surprised Rasmus Jensen not in that group of series reserve.  
Interesting no Poles in the list of series reserve. Looks like the young Poles, Drabik, Smektala, Kubera, are missing out and the likes of Dan and Robert are moving forward at a great pace.           
Interesting 7series reserves from 7 different countries.  Truly a championship of the world competition.

 

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1 hour ago, Wee Eck said:

Nilsson wasn’t a pick. He qualified by right through the GP challenge. 

I know he did.

I was just saying the series will be weaker with that being the only change.

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14 hours ago, Greeno1861 said:

I really don't get the Woffy hate on here. Granted he's not the top dog he's used to be, but he's still getting to semis/finals, still has moments of pure magic, and if he can stay injury free (big if I know) is one of the few who can get close to Bartosz. 

 

 

 

Yet some on here go on like he's Scott Nicholls with the ego of Nikki

I certainly don't hate Tai. It just seems to me that he's lost the desire to win in the GP.  

He's been there and done it as a triple world champ but maybe he has a different mindset now that he has a young family and he seems content to do just enough rather than put it on the line. He's earning his bread and butter in the Polish league and obviously he wants to be in the GP series to keep sponsors happy but he's lost his edge.

How often has he had world beating rides in the qualifying heats only to disappear in the semis which has cost him dearly? 

In fact he is probably the only rider in the top ten finishers that didn't score more under the new points system than he would have in the old system because of this. 

My problem with him is that when it's gone badly for him, it doesn't seem to hurt compared to say Doyle or Freddie who are on it 100%  and visibly angry  when it's not gone their way.

Maybe that's just the persona he likes to project but to me you've got to be in it to win it and to me he just doesn't seem to want it badly enough now. I could be wrong.

 

 

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The 2023.GP series will not be weaker. It takes more than one season to get into GP racing…. So Dan, Robert, Jack, Anders, Micelson should only get better.  Leon says he will be better in 23, as does Woffy. On form Vaculik can beat anyone, Janowski will be sometimes on it and sometimes not (as now), Dudek wil be good or mediocre, same with Doyle, Fricke could become consistent and be a threat, and Freddie…… if he gets rid of long covid he will be up their chasing the elusive gold. Kim Nilsson…. we will have to wait and see.    
2022 was a breakthrough year for English riders, I looking forward to 2023.          
I think it is going to be a great year. Potential is enormous.

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18 hours ago, MARK246 said:

But does he drink Monster ?

Paweł Przedpełski does and it didn't do him much good.

4 hours ago, Grand Central said:

Monster energy reaches the parts other sugary drinks can’t reach.

Unless you are Paweł Przedpełski!
Not that I think he deserves a permanent wildcard, but suspect he has scored more points this year than Kim Nilsson will next year.

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