Peterborough Panthers 2023

[IainB]

6 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said:

Was the bloke taking about roundabouts a plant to stop the speedway reps speaking? 

Filibuster (not Chapman 😂)

[Sir Sidney]

16 minutes ago, IainB said:

Filibuster (not Chapman 😂)

I do hope they go first when the other application is discussed. 

Now emotional blackmail, using children to speak in support of the application!

Edited Tuesday at 02:26 PM by Sir Sidney

[IainB]

21 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said:

I do hope they go first when the other application is discussed. 

Now emotional blackmail, using children to speak in support of the application!

I know it's easy to say in hindsight but maybe something as simple as the seating strategy should be looked at in any future hearings, they went for a 5-1 strategy and got 1-5'd maybe a 3-3 or 4-2 should be the way to go to not get timed out. 

[Sir Sidney]

1 minute ago, IainB said:

I know it's easy to say in hindsight but maybe something as simple as the seating strategy should be looked at in any future hearings, they went for a 5-1 strategy and got 1-5'd maybe a 3-3 or 4-2 should be the way to go to not get timed out. 

Given that the first 2 speakers had no link to the last 2 it would have been sensible to have agreed 3 minutes each. Nothing was in place to stop the first chap speaking for 15 mins if he has wanted to

[Sir Sidney]

Mr Butterfield struggling to expand and answer questions on consultation. and anything else really!

Edited Tuesday at 02:51 PM by Sir Sidney

[IainB]

Just now, Sir Sidney said:

Given that the first 2 speakers had no link to the last 2 it would have been sensible to have agreed 3 minutes each. Nothing was in place to stop the first chap speaking for 15 mins if he has wanted to

You would have thought there was an agreement, the first speedway guy showed the socialist his stop watch on his phone and he still prattled on! You know what these politicians are like, they love the sound of their own voice

[Youhave2minutes]

21 hours ago, gazz 50s said:

Big day for Peterborough Panthers and Speedway tomorrow were meeting at 12.30 as ITV is going to be their interviewing fans before and after the meeting. If any fans can make it please come along and shoe your support thanks

Is that central or anglia tv there please

[Youhave2minutes]

2 hours ago, Sir Sidney said:

Is anyone having trouble with the live stream? I keep losing mine

Mines ok

[Sir Sidney]

Well done to Councillors for identifying, and then officers confirming that, with a single entrance onto and off of the proposed development,  then any emergency would cause gridlock 

[Youhave2minutes]

So no speedway incorporated in the development plans. Buster not interested finding a suitable replacement. So where do the consortium go from here? Looks like the end of.

Edited Tuesday at 03:55 PM by Youhave2minutes

[Sir Sidney]

Well done to the Save Peterborough team for putting up arguments to defeat the application for 650 houses on the track site. No doubt this will now go to appeal, but well done to the Chair of the Committee for saying, not directly in these words, that AEPG should have done more to comply with the Local Plan and NPPF to retain existing facilities. 

The war may not have been won, but at least the Save Peterborough team will be able to fight on. 

Well done

[TTT]

The fight's not over yet but we've got AEPG on the ropes now, More hope than ever before.

Well done to all involved in the fight to save Peterborough Speedway, Their passion doesn't go unnoticed and everyone appreciates the effort they've all put in even if we don't say it enough.

[IainB]

Just now, TTT said:

The fight's not over yet but we've got AEPG on the ropes now, More hope than ever before.

Well done to all involved in the fight to save Peterborough Speedway, Their passion doesn't go unnoticed and everyone appreciates the effort they've all put in even if we don't say it enough.

100% 👍🏻

[Panther1997]

Thank you to all involved today, especially to all the speakers and the passion they showed for our club. Also a big vote of thanks to the Chair of the committee, I believe he really did sway the votes of some of the committee, with his passion for the showground facility. As for that Cllr Fitzgerald, the less said the better, he must be friends with Mr Butterfield who flapped his way through all afternoon, getting people who are obviously more qualified than him to fights his battles as he couldn’t fight them himself! 

Edited Tuesday at 06:36 PM by Panther1997

[OldNutter]

Well done guys.  The plan must now to make sure that the track stays in whatever plans they come up with next.  Butterfield went for the greedy option and got the biggest lump of houses and the leisure buildings for his pension fund, but the piece of land with the track, pits and stand survived pretty-well as is. (or what they have left has)  The second FAILED application  could be made viable if is brought back next time with the track in it.

In the meeting, it was pointed out that the likes of Belle Vue has a track inside a housing development so it can be done.  Oxford and Birmingham are not exactly out in the countryside eitther.  Maybe the planning officers and councillors at  PCC could make that clear to Butterfielld.  That way, Butterfield gets his pension fund and we get our speedway without having to build anythig new!  I wonder if the council would help and maybe Butterfield would put a 4/G pitch in the centre green?

Edited Tuesday at 06:34 PM by OldNutter
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[Youhave2minutes]

54 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said:

Well done to the Save Peterborough team for putting up arguments to defeat the application for 650 houses on the track site. No doubt this will now go to appeal, but well done to the Chair of the Committee for saying, not directly in these words, that AEPG should have done more to comply with the Local Plan and NPPF to retain existing facilities. 

The war may not have been won, but at least the Save Peterborough team will be able to fight on. 

Well done

The plans no doubt will be revised, but no hope of the speedway returning to the showground. Waste of time fighting and need to move on to a new site in the area.Hope I’m wrong but don’t think I will be🥲

Edited Tuesday at 06:58 PM by Youhave2minutes

[BluPanther]

https://britishspeedway.co.uk/miscellaneous/fresh-hope-for-panthers/

[Sir Sidney]

18 minutes ago, Youhave2minutes said:

The plans no doubt will be revised, but no hope of the speedway returning to the showground. Waste of time fighting and need to move on to a new site in the area.Hope I’m wrong but don’t think I will be🥲

AEPG could work with the Council and the Speedway club to either revise the development a bit to build a new track on the outskirts of the development or on another site ( if one could be identified) and pay for it.

 

If they did that they would almost certainly get permission for the remaining houses ( or most of them), comply with the Local Pan and NPPF and still make a significantly large sum of money. Everyone wins that way

[naffer]

Well done to the savePeterborough team there is always hope if you can stop the houses.

Same ruling won the day at Brandon and  I know the real battle lies ahead.

[IainB]

25 minutes ago, Youhave2minutes said:

The plans no doubt will be revised, but no hope of the speedway returning to the showground. Waste of time fighting and need to move on to a new site in the area.Hope I’m wrong but don’t think I will be🥲

You can't help but think that the best long term solution would be for the local plan to be adhered to and the developers to relocate the Panthers to a protected blank canvas site where there would be no environmental concerns. Everybody gets what they want that way