Peterborough Panthers 2023

[chrismorton]

8 hours ago, DaveWayne said:

I'm intrigued as to where this person claims this 'announcement' was made. Buster's only involvement with stock car meetings is renting the track to the promotion, and running his burger stall. He certainly doesn't get anywhere near a mic to make any announcements, so my guess would be that someone had a dig at him while buying a burger and he gave a sarcastic response.

This person is Busters Bum boy..either that or it's Busters wife who's a keyboard warrior and calls herself Bald bloke..

[Bald Bloke]

8 hours ago, DaveWayne said:

I'm intrigued as to where this person claims this 'announcement' was made. Buster's only involvement with stock car meetings is renting the track to the promotion, and running his burger stall. He certainly doesn't get anywhere near a mic to make any announcements, so my guess would be that someone had a dig at him while buying a burger and he gave a sarcastic response.

Ask the poster ....

TINYS

 

 

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My mate went to stock cars at Lynn yesterday and apparently Buster announced that there won't be speedway at Lynn after this season.

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13 minutes ago, chrismorton said:

This person is Busters Bum boy..either that or it's Busters wife who's a keyboard warrior and calls herself Bald bloke..

Thanks for the kind words. But your wrong on both counts.

[Crump99]

On 5/19/2024 at 6:32 AM, Bagpuss said:

Just caught up with what Butterfield has recently said.....what an absolute piece of work he is.

And additionally on that, we need Peterborough Speedway fans and the wider speedway world to get a second wind and register an objection on the Peterborough City Council planning portal (Either new or additional comments based on what you now know: just say that the objection is additional.

Doesn't need to be anything detailed but we need to counteract the raft of weak support comments being submitted recently (some of which offer no comment but just register as a support submission when the numbers are compiled)

As well as yourself, you can get friends and family to submit a new or additional objection as long they say as such if additional:

23/00412/OUT | Outline permission for up to 650 dwellings  - this is where Peterborough Speedway sits. https://planpa.peterborough.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=makeComment&keyVal=RSXWVDML04U00

23/00400/OUT | Outline permission for up to 850 dwellings  - this is the part not in the local plan that the chancer has thrown it to totally confuse the issue https://planpa.peterborough.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=makeComment&keyVal=RSOMJ0MLIWV00
 

 

 

[Flappy]

Keep signing and sharing guys and oh please buster hand the club over 

[Rickyag]

4 hours ago, Flappy said:

Keep signing and sharing guys and oh please buster hand the club over 

Buster won`t hand the club over to the consortium as they might put pressure on Butterfield / AEPG to run the club again, hence why he told the fans over the mic not to carry on protesting about the closure.

[Crump99]

6 hours ago, Flappy said:

Keep signing and sharing guys and oh please buster hand the club over 

Well something worked as both pages on the PCC planning portal are full of objections, so a big thank to anyone who made the effort

I've equally had the same thoughts about the club ownership but have been told: "Don’t get hung up on the ownership issue, it really isn’t that important." so that's a reliable message on that situation IMO.

[Bald Bloke]

1 hour ago, Crump99 said:

Well something worked as both pages on the PCC planning portal are full of objections, so a big thank to anyone who made the effort

I've equally had the same thoughts about the club ownership but have been told: "Don’t get hung up on the ownership issue, it really isn’t that important." so that's a reliable message on that situation IMO.

Can only be a positive?

[Crump99]

15 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

Can only be a positive?

Indeed. We can focus on the real issues and not get deflected by who owns what.

 

[Crump99]

On 5/19/2024 at 6:32 AM, Bagpuss said:

Just caught up with what Butterfield has recently said.....what an absolute piece of work he is.

The gloves are really off now  https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/politics/aepg-boss-tells-peterborough-speedway-fans-to-present-business-case-as-supporters-bid-to-save-the-panthers-4638820

Why does he want a business case? He says that speedway is finished and is so confident of his sales pitch that surely we can't trouble his 100,000 supporters (that's approx 1/2 the population of Peterborough btw  )

I wouldn't play his game of deflection away from the local plan and other local considerations

Our mate Old Nutter summed it up:

The AEPG approach is to make a significant point in the low number of times a section of the EoES would be used for speedway. On it's own that simplistic outsider understanding is obvious in every part of the Butterfield plan.

No separate proper spectator sport can ever hope to get close to making a profit without becoming a part of a shared multi-use volume occupancy. Even the new Spurs stadium has been designed to take in American Football, Women's Football and huge pop concerts plus more.

The lack of speedway in Peterborough is solely down to one misguided outsider.

Any multi-use sport facility of the kind that anyone with a single brain-cell would contemplate to future-proof the continued community value of the EoES would have to be designed to accommodate a wide range of sports, both inside and outside. The areas under the grandstands could be able to house gym-type sporting facilities, squash, badminton, martial arts and so-on. The centre green could be used for grass type sports like local school football and hockey championships and so on.

Edited May 23 by Crump99

[Gasser90]

We are getting press attention pretty much every week now, this is far from over and we will keep fighting 

[Sully]

If you needed any more motivation to keep up the fight here it is… https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8ymohs

[tellboy]

49 minutes ago, Sully said:

If you needed any more motivation to keep up the fight here it is… https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8ymohs

Sounds a right arrogant pr!(k to me listening to that.

[Crump99]

20 hours ago, Sully said:

If you needed any more motivation to keep up the fight here it is… https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8ymohs

A very useful video for anyone who didn't know what he is like. Worth noting that Opportunity Peterborough (hosting the event) is wholly owned by Peterborough City Council. Also clock the nasty piece of work at the end who says that that's what people do when Butterfield calls the local and nationwide speedway fans selfish because they don't want to lose Peterborough Speedway & 50 years of local/national/world history and community to the fantasy vision of a greedy developer which will not, IMHO, appear in a disruptive 12 years time anything like the glossy brochure.

[AceBelle]

2 hours ago, Crump99 said:

A very useful video for anyone who didn't know what he is like. Worth noting that Opportunity Peterborough (hosting the event) is wholly owned by Peterborough City Council. Also clock the nasty piece of work at the end who says that that's what people do when Butterfield calls the local and nationwide speedway fans selfish because they don't want to lose Peterborough Speedway & 50 years of local/national/world history and community to the fantasy vision of a greedy developer which will not, IMHO, appear in a disruptive 12 years time anything like the glossy brochure.

slimeball !!

 

[OldNutter]

Clearly after that performance, Butterfield knows nothng about sports club finance.  Making £7,000 profit would mean that Panthers were more profitable than 90% of EFL clubs, but building houses over all the grounds in the country is hardly a vote winner.  I hope the PCC will have a look at a definition of a great noun in the Cambridge Dictionary before making a decision  about this one-man project, one-man band of vapour-ware companies pushing fiction and send him back to flogging gym kit software.

The noun - "Snake-oil salesman"

The definition - " someone who deceives people in order to get money from them: "

Example - " In other words, don't take the ramblings of snake oil salesmen (like self-appointed cheerleaders who tout playlists and conduct seminars on how their "creative" views create solutions) too seriously"

[Mick Bratley]

1 hour ago, OldNutter said:

Clearly after that performance, Butterfield knows nothng about sports club finance.  Making £7,000 profit would mean that Panthers were more profitable than 90% of EFL clubs, but building houses over all the grounds in the country is hardly a vote winner.  I hope the PCC will have a look at a definition of a great noun in the Cambridge Dictionary before making a decision  about this one-man project, one-man band of vapour-ware companies pushing fiction and send him back to flogging gym kit software.

The noun - "Snake-oil salesman"

The definition - " someone who deceives people in order to get money from them: "

Example - " In other words, don't take the ramblings of snake oil salesmen (like self-appointed cheerleaders who tout playlists and conduct seminars on how their "creative" views create solutions) too seriously"

That £7000 profit was also when the team finished bottom of the league.

[Crump99]

1 hour ago, OldNutter said:

Making £7,000 profit

The problem there though is that Butterfield said that the speedway only shows that profit because the charity was supporting it. I guess that that means in terms of favourable rent, some staff time throughout the week , equipment, storage etc? If all of that expense was costed individually and fully charged then that profit would soon disappear into a loss? AEPG or whoever are not prepared to subsidise the club into profit is his argument, hence him asking the consortium for complicated business case. Fortunately the small consortium and their friends know more about the ins and outs of running at the EoES than he could ever wish to, even if he bends his mate Chapman's ear. I'm sure that they are up to the task!

[OldNutter]

On 5/24/2024 at 5:45 PM, Crump99 said:

A very useful video for anyone who didn't know what he is like. Worth noting that Opportunity Peterborough (hosting the event) is wholly owned by Peterborough City Council. Also clock the nasty piece of work at the end who says that that's what people do when Butterfield calls the local and nationwide speedway fans selfish because they don't want to lose Peterborough Speedway & 50 years of local/national/world history and community to the fantasy vision of a greedy developer which will not, IMHO, appear in a disruptive 12 years time anything like the glossy brochure.

Absolutely right.  It is not selfish to ask for something if the request is reasonable, which this most certainly is.  "Selfish" is trying to sqeeze every last pound from your "project" so you can run off with your pockets bulging with cash that has been created out of thin air doing more harm than good.  Butterfield will not be using any spades no matter what because he never intended to do that.  His aim has always been to blow the price of the land way higher than it should be just so he can get lorry loads of free cash from bodge it and floggit building merchants who follow behind his personal gravy train.  These developer leaches who take good agricultural land and up the price of it simply by getting by the planning system with outright vapourware are the main reason house buyers have to pay inflated prices for the houses that are finally built.

Costing the  time staff would otherwise be sitting on their bottoms because they have to be there anyway and charging housing prices for floor space in buildings that would otherwise be empty is not subsiding anything if it does some good - it might  even mean getting an easier ride with the planners and locals! That hard logic is typical of the developer world and the recent very welcome moves across the country that have not just acepted all the vapourware from these selfish moneygrabbers have come as quite a surprise to those who thought they would be given steam rollers to flatten local views in exchange for running off with lorry loads of free cash.

Instead of pretending that tens of mates mates pretending they even know where Peterborough is, writing notes of similar pretend "benefits" in the usual silly words Butterfield should maybe take note of the thousand plus real speedway fans from around the world and stop showing what an ignorant nothing he keeps showing us he is by pretending he is somehow doing the people round here a favour by exchanging their useful fully working green spaces for his bank balance.  The sooner he takes that silly nervous laughing away the better.

[RoundTheBoards]

On 5/23/2024 at 9:00 PM, Sully said:

If you needed any more motivation to keep up the fight here it is… https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8ymohs

Absolute scumbag.

 

[Crump99]

2 hours ago, RoundTheBoards said:

Absolute scumbag.

 

Funny that the video hasn't appeared on the AEPG Facebook page, as do most of his recent promotional efforts! His selling point to that stuffy crowd was who'd like to live near a unique culture, leisure and tourism community facility when one could have a useless driving range instead? Sums it, him & them up really!

Edited May 25 by Crump99