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8 hours ago, TTT said:

Me too.

I was just saying that Sheffield don't have a reason to drop Ellis when the core of the 2022 team would've won the Double last season if it wasn't for Babs lol.

Holder will do a Doyle in this league imo.

Holder hasn't been the same since his big injury IMO, he'll score well but I doubt he'll match Doyle. 

Doyle is still a GP rider whereas Holder is a level below that.

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5 minutes ago, JCookie said:

Holder hasn't been the same since his big injury IMO, he'll score well but I doubt he'll match Doyle. 

Doyle is still a GP rider whereas Holder is a level below that.

Maybe, but watching Holder ride in Poland over the past two seasons, he has definitely worked his way back into the top 20 or so in the world I would say..

And, in my opinion, is quite a way above the level of the likes of Musielak, Kurtz, and Zagar, and even above Fricke...

I would say he would be easily vying for third in the averages behind Doyle and Bewley if he rode over here...

Seems to have got his "mojo" back so would be a very good signing for anyone I would suggest..

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3 hours ago, JCookie said:

Holder hasn't been the same since his big injury IMO, he'll score well but I doubt he'll match Doyle. 

Doyle is still a GP rider whereas Holder is a level below that.

Given that in 2022 Chris Holder had a higher average than Woffinden, Doyle, Bewley and Jack Holder in Poland, and Janowski, Dudek and Lindgren  in Sweden I'd suggest he's hardly a spent force.

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Just now, arnieg said:

Given that in 2022 Chris Holder had a higher average than Woffinden, Doyle, Bewley and Jack Holder in Poland, and Janowski, Dudek and Lindgren  in Sweden I'd suggest he's hardly a spent force.

Which is not something I said. I think he's a level below being a genuine GP rider - which is still a fair achievement given his previous injuries - and he won't match Doyle in this country. Still a very good rider.

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I would like to see Michael Palm Toft retained as well as Ben Basso. Not much mention of him on here, does anyone have any ideas as to where he is heading for 2023. He must have quite a low average after last season and I think one year he will have a breakthrough season and it could be 2023?. He rides the showground really well and can perform well away also.

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3 hours ago, arnieg said:

Given that in 2022 Chris Holder had a higher average than Woffinden, Doyle, Bewley and Jack Holder in Poland, and Janowski, Dudek and Lindgren  in Sweden I'd suggest he's hardly a spent force.

And rode for a much inferior team than all the rest, meaning he pretty much carried it, so ended up with six rides most weeks..

With the more rides you have often being an average killer..

Especially coming out in virtually every race against one of the top 25 or so riders in the world..

If he rides over here at 75% of what he has done in Poland the last two seasons, he will hit at least an 8pt average given the huge drop in standard he will find in at least half of his races.. 

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Just for interest.

Which team are you taking?

 

1. Niels-Kristian Iversen

2. Rohan Tungate

3. Benjamin Basso

4. Przemyslaw Pawlicki

5. Chris Holder

6. Ben Cook

7. Drew Kemp (RS)

= 38.92

 

or

 

1. Niels-Kristian Iversen

2. Krzysztof Buczkowski

3. Benjamin Basso

4. Rohan Tungate

5. Matej Zagar

6. Ben Cook

7. Jordan Jenkins (RS)

= 38.23

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