Peterborough Panthers 2023

[LisaColette]

 

 

[Flappy]

It also mentions Tungate to Panthers on the tweet beneath. 

Panthers need that number 1 and now find themselves 3.5 points under limit 

[JoeW436]

Tarasenko and Tungate in, who out?

[Flappy]

5 minutes ago, JoeW436 said:

Tarasenko and Tungate in, who out?

Andersen as it stands we will be 3.5 points under the limit and Tarasenko will be at reserve after Monday. 

The team still needs at least one more change 

NKI 

Cook 

Worrall 

Basso 

Tungate

Tarasenko

Jenkins 

Edited May 24, 2023 by Flappy

[TTT]

Going to be sad to see Hans go out like this but it has to be done.

NKI shouldn't last much longer if he doesn't pull his finger out.

[chrismorton]

Wouldn't it have been a better fit if we had Laguta?...I guess Buster wanted him for his favourite team...glad they are actually making the effort to do something though...all they need to do now is let us know about it. We still need a number 1 though and It will be interesting to see the Russians on the small tracks..

Edited May 24, 2023 by chrismorton

[TTT]

49 minutes ago, Flappy said:

Andersen as it stands we will be 3.5 points under the limit and Tarasenko will be at reserve after Monday. 

The team still needs at least one more change 

NKI 

Cook 

Worrall 

Basso 

Tungate

Tarasenko

Jenkins 

Someone else has to be lined-up, Can't leave the team like that and god knows how Tomalin/CJ are going to talk themselves out of this one if we do go 3.5 under the limit considering we've been the team looking for a No.1.

[Gasser90]

10 minutes ago, chrismorton said:

Wouldn't it have been a better fit if we had Laguta?...I guess Buster wanted him for his favourite team...glad they are actually making the effort to do something though...all they need to do now is let us know about it. We still need a number 1 though and It will be interesting to see the Russians on the small tracks..

I think Brady has stumped up most of the money for Laguta maybe ? Or that whiskey sponsor, can’t see buster paying that 

[Panthers99]

We're best of keeping with RR and Tarasenko for Hans.

Surely we have an argument that only replacement for Nicki is Tungate and we're bringing understrengh teams to every meeting. If we get Rohan in, take out Worrall, much stronger. 

RR, Cook, Worrall, Basso, Niels, Tarasenko, Jenkins.

 

[chrismorton]

I can't see Tarasenko scoring more than Hans on the away tracks so I don't see the point unless another rider has been lined up that we don't know about. I also don't like seeing these comments about Hans..he's been brilliant for us over the years and would still do a job at the lower end of the team. For me the biggest let down has been NKI but again I don't like digging him out either because the whole team has been poor all season apart from the other night which lets be honest was won with Cook and Bewley.

Edited May 24, 2023 by chrismorton

[Crump99]

11 hours ago, TTT said:

Think it's more of a pipe dream than a rumour tbh.

Can't imagine anyone being stupid enough to spend a fortune on purchasing new land and then building a new stadium when the sport is a ticking time bomb in this country.

So given that sight of the AEPG planning application is imminent, if it's not already out there? Then you're not holding out much hope on PCC sticking by the EoES provisions within their own live local plan?

LP30: Existing Culture, Leisure, Tourism and Community Facilities

The loss, via redevelopment, of an existing culture, leisure, tourism or community facility will only
be permitted if it is demonstrated that:

k. The facility is demonstrably no longer fit for purpose and the site is not viable to be
redeveloped for a new community facility; or
l. The service provided by the facility is met by alternative provision that exists within
reasonable proximity: what is deemed as reasonable proximity will depend on the nature
of the facility and its associated catchment area; or
m. The proposal includes the provision of a new facility of a similar nature and of a similar or
greater size in a suitable on or off-site location.

I would think that the work/costs is the responsibility of the developers, not new owners, and local councillors have said that the plans will not be approved without LP30 being adhered to. I wouldn't hang my hat on what councillors say but would ask on what basis LP30 has been ignored, if that's how it works out.

Edited May 24, 2023 by Crump99

[LagutaRacingFan]

Can we not take KK if Lynn are going with Laguta?

 

[Flappy]

35 minutes ago, Panthers99 said:

We're best of keeping with RR and Tarasenko for Hans.

Surely we have an argument that only replacement for Nicki is Tungate and we're bringing understrengh teams to every meeting. If we get Rohan in, take out Worrall, much stronger. 

RR, Cook, Worrall, Basso, Niels, Tarasenko, Jenkins.

 

Tungate is coming in 

[Flappy]

9 minutes ago, Crump99 said:

So given that sight of the AEPG planning application is imminent, if it's not already out there? Then you're not holding out much hope on PCC sticking by the EoES provisions within their own live local plan?

LP30: Existing Culture, Leisure, Tourism and Community Facilities

The loss, via redevelopment, of an existing culture, leisure, tourism or community facility will only
be permitted if it is demonstrated that:

k. The facility is demonstrably no longer fit for purpose and the site is not viable to be
redeveloped for a new community facility; or
l. The service provided by the facility is met by alternative provision that exists within
reasonable proximity: what is deemed as reasonable proximity will depend on the nature
of the facility and its associated catchment area; or
m. The proposal includes the provision of a new facility of a similar nature and of a similar or
greater size in a suitable on or off-site location.

I would think that the work/costs is the responsibility of the developers, not new owners, and local councillors have said that the plans will not be approved without LP30 being adhered to. I wouldn't hang my hat on what councillors say but would ask on what basis LP30 has been ignored, if that's how it works out.

We mustn't lose sight of this 

[TTT]

26 minutes ago, Crump99 said:

So given that sight of the AEPG planning application is imminent, if it's not already out there? Then you're not holding out much hope on PCC sticking by the EoES provisions within their own live local plan?

LP30: Existing Culture, Leisure, Tourism and Community Facilities

The loss, via redevelopment, of an existing culture, leisure, tourism or community facility will only
be permitted if it is demonstrated that:

k. The facility is demonstrably no longer fit for purpose and the site is not viable to be
redeveloped for a new community facility; or
l. The service provided by the facility is met by alternative provision that exists within
reasonable proximity: what is deemed as reasonable proximity will depend on the nature
of the facility and its associated catchment area; or
m. The proposal includes the provision of a new facility of a similar nature and of a similar or
greater size in a suitable on or off-site location.

I would think that the work/costs is the responsibility of the developers, not new owners, and local councillors have said that the plans will not be approved without LP30 being adhered to. I wouldn't hang my hat on what councillors say but would ask on what basis LP30 has been ignored, if that's how it works out.

I have my fingers crossed but normally these situations don't end well.

[TTT]

The 1-7's overall average is weaker but the riders in the 1-7 are stronger.

 

Tungate is a No.1 around Peterborough really and he'd score more points around Peterborough than any guest we could get in who's name isn't Dan Bewley because Emil, Laguta, Holder etc. are never going to guest for us for various reasons.

Tarasenko is a good rider, Watched quite a bit of him when he rode for Bydgoszcz and he was one of the leagues best performers, Peterborough circuit will suit him imo and he'll score more than Hans at almost every track as well.

 

Worry for me is Ben Cook being asked to ride in the 1-5 with an out of form NKI if Tara is a 5.00, Could end up collapsing under the pressure like Ben Basso as we could be asking for too much too soon.

[Falcon1983]

No way Tarasenko will come in on a 5.00 average as an Ekstraliga rider with a current CMA of 6.50 for 2023, surely means he will come in on a 7.00

But I remember, this is British Speedway that put crump on a high average although he last rode in 1928

[TTT]

1 minute ago, Falcon1983 said:

No way Tarasenko will come in on a 5.00 average as an Ekstraliga rider with a current CMA of 6.50 for 2023, surely means he will come in on a 7.00

But I remember, this is British Speedway that put crump on a high average although he last rode in 1928

That's what I said yesterday, Gasser and Flappy know their stuff though so I'm taking their word for it regarding the 5.00 assessment.

I'd rather have Tara on a 7.00 just so Ben Cook can get a bit more experience at reserve.

[Flappy]

2 minutes ago, TTT said:

That's what I said yesterday, Gasser and Flappy know their stuff though so I'm taking their word for it regarding the 5.00 assessment.

I'd rather have Tara on a 7.00 just so Ben Cook can get a bit more experience at reserve.

I was guessing average wise tbh I have no idea whether Tarasenko is any good or not as don't recall ever seeing him ride 

[Sir Sidney]

18 minutes ago, TTT said:

I have my fingers crossed but normally these situations don't end well.

What's your evidence for saying that?