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3 hours ago, Octoberon said:

Carl did not say that he’d put thousands of pounds into the club. He said that he’d put in thousands of hours work into the club over the years

That is true, That was MT job, but he hasn't delivered. But Carl has made himself look like an clown with his comments

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3 hours ago, scoobydoo said:

Its becoming more  obvious now that the club has no future come the end of the season , if thats the way they all go about there business with paying customers , god help them when it comes to dealing with the important people who they would need to convince that the speedway team in Peterborough should be saved .

In fact its getting seriously to the point of if they can really survive the season, 

For Ulrich's sake i hope its lasts until after his farewell as he deserves his meeting in the very least , but at least he has Glasgow as a back up hopefully.

 

 

 

 

They have to finish the season. If they fold, it will only add to the speedway isn't worth the expense of a new site..

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3 hours ago, scoobydoo said:

Its becoming more  obvious now that the club has no future come the end of the season , if thats the way they all go about there business with paying customers , god help them when it comes to dealing with the important people who they would need to convince that the speedway team in Peterborough should be saved .

In fact its getting seriously to the point of if they can really survive the season, 

For Ulrich's sake i hope its lasts until after his farewell as he deserves his meeting in the very least , but at least he has Glasgow as a back up hopefully.

 

 

 

 

I don't know if you know Flappy. But he responded to my comment  of TM with "Watch this space"  Are we going to see a to late Tomalin charge :rofl:

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6 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

I don't know if you know Flappy. But he responded to my comment  of TM with "Watch this space"  Are we going to see a to late Tomalin charge :rofl:

Well the Ged Rathbone and MT double act rumours aren't going away.  The biggest problem anyone has is getting the funding for the new track and that's where the planning document must be adhered too. 

Nobody is buying any club with closure hanging over its head 

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14 hours ago, TTT said:

Application must have been rejected.

Changed his social media bio's to co-promoter but I guess he was jumping the gun.

On Facebook now in his bio he just says he’s the club sponsor at Peterborough now. 

Interesting that even on his page he was Peterborough mad at the start of the season by the looks of it and very little of late.

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23 minutes ago, Najjer said:

On Facebook now in his bio he just says he’s the club sponsor at Peterborough now. 

Interesting that even on his page he was Peterborough mad at the start of the season by the looks of it and very little of late.

He's on holiday again...

https://twitter.com/TomalinMichael/status/1659893643405058049?s=20

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12 hours ago, Najjer said:

Just spent 10 minutes entertaining myself reading through the Peterborough Facebook page and seeing comments from Allitt and Tomalin making a prat of themselves.

They really have morphed into the new Banter speedway club. Hilarious but sad at the same time.

Some of the best comments are people talking about signing Holder as no.1 still when he’s currently sidelined with broken bones.

I remember when forums where the Antichrist. Frost/Mahoney ditched Panthers forum to keep things controlled/professional and in-house with basic one way (out) communications. The management never got involved with supporters (well Julie did once or twice to a selective worthless bunch, but that was it). Always a mistake to rise to the bait. However, if you don't communicate effectively but still want to interact and play the social media game then those are the problems that you create for yourself. It's usually at desperate times and always ends in a slanging match.

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10 minutes ago, The Cheese said:

There can't be another sport where those running/connected with teams are so obsessed with moaning about keyboard warriors and making unprofessional comments/statements. What do they think it's actually going to achieve? There's not one club who can afford to alienate their supporters, if just 1 person decides 'I've had enough' after reading them, how are you replacing that £300+?

If you can't handle a few critical comments then maybe either don't put yourself in that position or stay off social media. Whatever you do, it should be pretty simple to understand you don't start having a pop at your supporters because you need them.

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Im of the opinion that MTs co promoter/ sponsor status is all down to the Holdergate rift issue with Buster , its sounding like hes taken a backstep from what was expected/agreed to happen at the time and now the relationship has broken down to the extent that he has withdrawn any further cash input , hes said on SM hes put money in but it points now towards him not being prepared to put any more money in with how the situation is .

If the rumour of him and Ged teaming up is true then this most likely has been formed to buy out Buster  only if the situation of the clubs future improves . 

Maybe even John Clarke would get involved as  Crendons owner also . But this is just my opinion and nothing else.

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5 hours ago, Flappy said:

Well the Ged Rathbone and MT double act rumours aren't going away. 

The biggest problem anyone has is getting the funding for the new track and that's where the planning document must be adhered too. 

Nobody is buying any club with closure hanging over its head 

That was MT's first mistake, Telling fans he was going to buy the club and re locate it. 

Lets hope between them they can keep the Panthers going, if the rumour turns out to be true.

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48 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

That was MT's first mistake, Telling fans he was going to buy the club and re locate it. 

Lets hope between them they can keep the Panthers going, if the rumour turns out to be true.

I think 're-locate it' meant into the Championship!!:t:

With MT taking in the sunshine on the beach, he's probably in Bournemouth/Poole to get some advice!;);)

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22 hours ago, TheSmiler said:

Another one from Carl Johnson and quite possibly the worst comment yet: 

“It’s simple, instead of slagging clubs off get down and help them survive….but I forgot your £22 a week runs a club. I’m sure you have put all your efforts into helping your local tracks survive over the years.”

What a way to speak to your paying supporters. Basically saying even our £22 isn’t good enough! What are these clowns on?

Unfortunately many of those involved within the "echo chamber" of UK Speedway are well meaning amateurs, who are miles out of their depth skill set wise for the roles they take on.. 

And as there often isn't a "Gold Standard" operationally to benchmark yourself, and aspire to be, the general malaise continues.. 

"We are doing our best" really isn't an answer when things go wrong. In fact, it questions your capability even further, as, if "doing my best" has put me in the predicament I find myself in then I am probably not the person to solve the issue, and should either step aside and let someone have a go, or go and seek help from those better qualified than me, (with the correct skill set ),  to support me in sorting the problem out..

I cannot take UK Speedway seriously from a team angle, but I know some still do, so I would imagine that if "my team" hadn't won for nearly a year then I would be just a tad peed off and expect something a bit better from those running it, and competing for it..

I certainly wouldnt be too pleased though to be told that paying my money doesnt entitle me to complain..

They must have too many fans so want to lose a few hundred by alienating them I presume..

And, to be fair, the sport as a whole has done a great job of that over the past 2 decades or so..

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19 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

Goodness me, this is embarrassing from the Peterborough management. 

Every fan wants to hear their management team interact with fans but there rules, those rules are, no matter how angry fans are don't belittle & down play their importance under any circumstances. 

As I've always said, a clubs closure is NEVER the fault of it's supporters. The blame is 100% owners. 

I think you will find Daniel that in UK Speedways "echo chamber" it really will never, ever be their fault..

And they will also have plenty of "hangers on" to agree with them, which then allows them to feel that they are "doing something right", so they carry on with the same failing plan..

Those "hangers on" see at close quarter "how hard they work", so feel no criticism is allowed due to this...:rolleyes:

"Working Hard" and "Working Successfully" are though two seperate things.. 

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