Crump99 Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, pauljb said: Just like they did at Swindon Don't recall that being mentioned at the time (perhaps it was but I wasn't paying much attention). Looked at Swindon Council website and can't see anything matching our plan with Policy LP30. Peterborough Speedway's position is pretty transparent and the responsibilities within the city's local plan are clear. Yes money talks and backroom deals allegedly seemingly decide most things these days, so yes any fight may be in vain if the will isn't there within PCC, but anyone fighting for the soul of the club has something to work with. Also, within the last 10 days a development has been turned down close to the EoES because, and I quote: "The plans had triggered protests from political leaders including North West Cambridgeshire MP Shailesh Vara. They claimed the project contravened the council’s Local Plan" Edited May 20, 2023 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, arnieg said: In the Premiership Ritchie Worrall is currently averaging over six. His best season since 2017, yet he's still getting flack. If anyone is entitled to be disappointed by his current form it's Plymouth fans. Exactly this, Worrall is doing what he does every year and is a 5.5-6.5 rider at best so holding his own, Cook in his first full season in the top league and Jenkins as the RS are doing what's expected of them generally also, the problem mainly lies with how the team was set up originally, Basso should never of been in a HL role in his second season, number 2 or 4 at best, and Andersen should of been shoehorned in at reserve if they were so keen to have him back again, and the other ageing Dane Iversen is simply past his best sadly as a HL in this league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismorton Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 Quite frankly they have all been crap so no one can be scapegoated which suggests to me there is more to it than individuals just not performing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismorton Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 3 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Are you referring to the Fours? Didn't he release Jack Holder to race in Poland for a fee? I'm kinda impressed tbh, these days Poland would just take the rider & GB has chosen to give up their priority on certain race nights. Something like that..but he was how I would want a promoter to be..called meetings with fans, got on the microphone to apologize when performances were bad, reacted to make team changes when required and regular press releases and the most important of all....he really cared about the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Aries said: Harsh. He’s doing exactly what it says on the tin with him. He’s been a 5-6 point rider for many years now, what were you expecting? At this stage of his career he’s not going to suddenly blossom in to a 7 point rider. There’s little surprise either with Andersen or Iversen. People said they were on decent averages, they never were. They’re washed up has beens whose averages were only ever heading in one direction! You’ve cut Basso some slack there because of his age which is fair enough, but if one rider so far has been a big disappointment it’s definitely him. He’s been awful. 2 hours ago, kevin bass said: Exactly this, Worrall is doing what he does every year and is a 5.5-6.5 rider at best so holding his own, Cook in his first full season in the top league and Jenkins as the RS are doing what's expected of them generally also, the problem mainly lies with how the team was set up originally, Basso should never of been in a HL role in his second season, number 2 or 4 at best, and Andersen should of been shoehorned in at reserve if they were so keen to have him back again, and the other ageing Dane Iversen is simply past his best sadly as a HL in this league. Worrall was getting flack by some Panthers fans after they lost their 1st meeting, The one where their No1 did 50 yards . He scored 4, which isn't great, but a 6 pointer will get 4/5/6/7 points a meeting. They are inconstant, but if doing their job will average around 6 over the season.. When i pointed out that RW was doing his average, i was told he's on a false ave this season because he scored well at Leicester. He now sits top of their Prem averages for this season.... It's not that he is setting the world on fire at all. It's because the rest are doing worse.. Edited May 20, 2023 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 3 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Are you referring to the Fours? Didn't he release Jack Holder to race in Poland for a fee? I'm kinda impressed tbh, these days Poland would just take the rider & GB has chosen to give up their priority on certain race nights. Not quite. Jack Holder was riding for Peterborough in the Championship and our race night was Sunday. Panthers didn't have a fixture on one Sunday and Holder rode for Torun at Leszno and made a huge score. Torun were surprised and very impressed. Torun were in a relegation battle and wanted Holder to miss his league fixtures for Peterborough. Torun offered Peterborough £28k for priority and Panthers accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismorton Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 3 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Are you referring to the Fours? Didn't he release Jack Holder to race in Poland for a fee? I'm kinda impressed tbh, these days Poland would just take the rider & GB has chosen to give up their priority on certain race nights. Something like that..but he was how I would want a promoter to be..called meetings with fans, got on the microphone to apologize when performances were bad, reacted to make team changes when required and regular press releases and the most important of all....he really cared about the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismorton Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 Torun wouldn't offer £25 for any of our lot right now but If they did I'm sure Buster would snap they're hand off for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Worrall was getting flack by some Panthers fans after they lost their 1st meeting, The one where their No1 did 50 yards . He scored 4, which isn't great, but a 6 pointer will get 4/5/6/7 points a meeting. They are inconstant, but if doing their job will average around 6 over the season.. When i pointed out that RW was doing his average, i was told he's on a false ave this season because he scored well at Leicester. He now sits top of their Prem averages for this season.... It's not that he is setting the world on fire at all. It's because the rest are doing crap. Worrall has only ridden 4 out of the 6 matches so his average so far this season is inflated to those who have ridden all 6 matches and posting on social media sight seeing in Venice when the team was riding at BV wouldn't of endured him to Peterborough fans as well , there has to be a reason he rarely does 2 consecutive seasons with a club in either league it cannot just be due to his average which as you say has been fairly consistent, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmiler Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) Here’s another one from the Peterborough promotion team with yet more “I am great and you are bad” attitude. Carl Johnson: “It makes me sick to the back teeth with so called supporters of speedway, especially so called Peterborough supporters. I’ve been involved in this club pretty much all my life and never taken anything out of this club, I’ve put in hundreds of thousands of hours to be involved in this club and the work that everyone does behind the scenes by proper Peterborough supporters is amazing and without them we wouldn’t have a club now. We as a promotion appreciate everyone that turns up week in and week out to watch and pay with their hard earned money and again without them we wouldn’t have a club. Don’t you think we are trying to save the future of the club ? We have already said we have identified 2 potential plots of land to move too in the future. Dale work his arse off to get speedway at the Showground this season so loyal supporters could at least have a final season. Everyone knows the situation at the Showground and we are not big enough to stop a £50 million development from going ahead, things are very sensitive with the Showground contract and who knows what happens after October this year. Michael Tomalin is a main sponsor but not a promoter of the club and the decision on colour change wasn’t down to his investment as we have stated in the past if you have cared to listen and to the reasons why this happened. We cannot help the reasoning into why Nikki left the club when he did, and we as a management team are trying, and have been trying to secure a rider for that position but if the riders don’t want to come to the uk then please tell me with all your so called knowledge what we do ? You bash the club but I never see you at the track helping to keep this great club alive, you pay your money on the gate but want your say in what happens to the club, if your all so vocal why not get yourselves together and form a committee dedicated to saving Peterborough speedway rather than bashing it ? Why do you want everyone else to do the hard yards for someone else to criticise that decision…I’m sure you all think we sit here and don’t worry about the situation we are in, do we want the club to close ? NO do we want to be in the position we are in the league ? NO can we help it at the present moment ? Not really….City Auction Group ( Michael Tomalin) and Crendon timber ( John Clarke) have funded this club for a few seasons now and never questioned anything, they have supportive in every way and understand the current situation. If you so called Peterborough fans don’t like it then do something about it, don’t just say we pay our money so we are entitled to have our say put some effort in to helping save the club or at least help when we need it…your not there putting up air fences or taking them down or in the winter replacing fence panels or painting , your not there sweeping the pits or cleaning the stands, your not there with your hand in the toilet cleaning it. No your sat at home on your keyboard waiting to bash someone or something else. If you want this club to survive quit moaning and bashing it and support it like you claim you do. I expect to see all you club bashers on Monday evening.” Sadly there are many delusional sheep rushing to the defence of the shocking attitude of the Peterborough promotion team. It all reinforces the point, “put up or shut up”. Expect no changes and a season without a single league point folks because in their eyes they are GREAT! Edited May 20, 2023 by TheSmiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 10 hours ago, pauljb said: Just like they did at Swindon Different to Swindon. As far as I know the Council has stuck to it's planning decision and restrictions at Swindon - the new stadium has to be built before any more houses are built. Terry Russell has given Gaming International the way out by saying speedway is not viable on the site - and that's why it is vital that the Panthers remain viable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 Panthers last victory was nearly 11 months ago. How does Carl Johnson expect the fans to react... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Worrall has only ridden 4 out of the 6 matches so his average so far this season is inflated to those who have ridden all 6 matches and posting on social media sight seeing in Venice when the team was riding at BV wouldn't of endured him to Peterborough fans as well , there has to be a reason he rarely does 2 consecutive seasons with a club in either league it cannot just be due to his average which as you say has been fairly consistent, He might of scored 8 in those 2 meetings, then his average would of gone even higher.. I know thats a big if, and i can see where you are coming from on that one though. Lets see what he does over the next few. My other point still stands. Some Panthers fans were going in on him after that famous 1st meeting. I didn't agree with that. As it has turned out at the mo he's the best of a bad bunch, apart from Cook who has upped his starting average. You have a good guest on Monday and is Jenkins back? Ben got going in the 2nd half on Thursday, and battled. If he can keep that going on Monday, i think you will get your 1st win by a slim margin .Hans and NKI cant be as bad around you gaff as they were Thursday as well. Could be a tight one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 Our promotion need to hire a PR manager because they're not good when it comes to communicating with the fans. The fans have every right to call them out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 Michael Tomalin is a main sponsor but not a promoter of the club Then why was he was announced as being a Co Promoter before the season started has he resigned from that role now then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 Could learn alot from Ipswich, their PR is spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 1 minute ago, scoobydoo said: Michael Tomalin is a main sponsor but not a promoter of the club Then why was he was announced as being a Co Promoter before the season started has he resigned from that role now then DO NOT question our Carl.... he's put thousands of pounds into the club. Because no one else has ever brought season tickets or tickets for meetings, sponsored riders etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted May 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 Please tell me Carl Johnson hasn't said that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, TTT said: Our promotion need to hire a PR manager because they're not good when it comes to communicating with the fans. The fans have every right to call them out. Esp when it comes from certain individuals who are not whiter than white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmiler Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) Another one from Carl Johnson and quite possibly the worst comment yet: “It’s simple, instead of slagging clubs off get down and help them survive….but I forgot your £22 a week runs a club. I’m sure you have put all your efforts into helping your local tracks survive over the years.” What a way to speak to your paying supporters. Basically saying even our £22 isn’t good enough! What are these clowns on? Edited May 20, 2023 by TheSmiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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