Peterborough Panthers 2023

[maneacat]

4 hours ago, Flappy said:

Are Bewley or Kurtz riding elsewhere then 

I very much doubt they’ve even been asked?  
 

 

[pleasureboy60]

We would be lucky to get Barker or Lambert knowing Chapman!

[89buttons]

17 hours ago, BassoRacingFan said:

The whole season feels like a write off. No new signing on the horizon.

The fixture list is also too sparse, I want to go to the Showground every 2 weeks.

 

I thought you said Freddie lindgren was coming?

[mikebv]

9 hours ago, stevehone said:

it's not just supporters that will be getting pissed off with the situation, i reckon the rest of the team are too

Will they have even noticed?..

Or even actually be bothered? 

One less top rider in the meeting to knock them back a place in a race, (maybe two or three times)...

Meaning instead of being third in a 4-2, they could be second in a 2-4....

And potentially extra RR, Tac Sub and Ht 15 rides

Kerching....!!

And there is always a team in a proper league to ride for elsewhere several times of the week...

Edited May 10, 2023 by mikebv

[pleasureboy60]

5 hours ago, 89buttons said:

I thought you said Freddie lindgren was coming?

More like Kermit the frog!

[Baldyman]

Think Kermit races in Greenland on Mondays and Thursdays

He also did some trial laps,,, he wasn't very fast, cos he didn't know how to revvit

 

Edited May 10, 2023 by Baldyman

[Bald Bloke]

1 hour ago, Baldyman said:

Think Kermit races in Greenland on Mondays and Thursdays

He also did some trial laps,,, he wasn't very fast, cos he didn't know how to revvit

 

I've given him a bell. He's warming up as we speak.

Video Ringtone - Crazy Frog - YouTube

 

[SteveLyric2]

2 hours ago, Baldyman said:

Think Kermit races in Greenland on Mondays and Thursdays

He also did some trial laps,,, he wasn't very fast, cos he didn't know how to revvit

 

He kept getting excluded for jumping the start!!

[DizzAssStar]

19 hours ago, chrismorton said:

Sounds like you have more issues than us mate....if you don't like the this chat then maybe go on Facebook where it's all sunshine and roses..and you can clap along with them...and tbf this what we have here is not serious enough for a tantrum....I haven't had one of those since Harry Kane missed that Pen against France!

Tbh, I've no major life issues (that i'm aware of) ..... but it does make me laugh looking in at a bunch of mature adults working themselves into a frenzy over issues that they have no control and in which they have no say.   It was actually your earlier post that triggered my reaction and you pretty much make the same point above eg....... go away (polite version) happy clappers your opinion don't count as it doesn't concur with mine  (bit odd from someone who also states people are entitled to an opinion??)

 

19 hours ago, Gasser90 said:

with no communication from the club

Seriously .............. do Asda's consult with you every time they discontinue a product or when their CEO passes wind?

 

16 hours ago, Flappy said:

We have every right to stamp our feet at the way out club is being run

Four or five of you can stamp your feet as much as you like .................. not getting you very far is it??

As for "rights" you should realise that your ONLY given right in this matter is:-  pay your admission money watch speedway (in safety) and go home........ The End.     (Of course you also have the right not pay and not attend?).

If i'm honest, I suppose it's probably this "I've got rights" issue (not just speedway but across the board) that winds me up most (possibly a throwback from my career days when people threw that in my face on a regular basis...... only to be shown otherwise) ....... point being if you've got all these rights why not enforce them??

The bottom line is that "Premiership" (by name only) Speedway is finally done for in the UK (writing has beeen on the wall for a few years now) ........ Poland completely and utterly rule the speedway roost now and top riders will certainly want to look after the goose that lays the golden egg (who can blame them).  If things go the way they appear to be going, 2024 will be one (not so big) championship level league for riders that are up and coming, those that will never make the big time and also those big names whose best years are long behind them! (apologies in advance for stating the obvious ....... I believe that most punters are already aware of this).

[Gasser90]

41 minutes ago, DizzAssStar said:

Tbh, I've no major life issues (that i'm aware of) ..... but it does make me laugh looking in at a bunch of mature adults working themselves into a frenzy over issues that they have no control and in which they have no say.   It was actually your earlier post that triggered my reaction and you pretty much make the same point above eg....... go away (polite version) happy clappers your opinion don't count as it doesn't concur with mine  (bit odd from someone who also states people are entitled to an opinion??)

 

Four or five of you can stamp your feet as much as you like .................. not getting you very far is it??

As for "rights" you should realise that your ONLY given right in this matter is:-  pay your admission money watch speedway (in safety) and go home........ The End.     (Of course you also have the right not pay and not attend?).

If i'm honest, I suppose it's probably this "I've got rights" issue (not just speedway but across the board) that winds me up most (possibly a throwback from my career days when people threw that in my face on a regular basis...... only to be shown otherwise) ....... point being if you've got all these rights why not enforce them??

The bottom line is that "Premiership" (by name only) Speedway is finally done for in the UK (writing has beeen on the wall for a few years now) ........ Poland completely and utterly rule the speedway roost now and top riders will certainly want to look after the goose that lays the golden egg (who can blame them).  If things go the way they appear to be going, 2024 will be one (not so big) championship level league for riders that are up and coming, those that will never make the big time and also those big names whose best years are long behind them! (apologies in advance for stating the obvious ....... I believe that most punters are already aware of this).

Someone got out of bed the wrong side this morning ! 

[Flappy]

1 hour ago, DizzAssStar said:

Tbh, I've no major life issues (that i'm aware of) ..... but it does make me laugh looking in at a bunch of mature adults working themselves into a frenzy over issues that they have no control and in which they have no say.   It was actually your earlier post that triggered my reaction and you pretty much make the same point above eg....... go away (polite version) happy clappers your opinion don't count as it doesn't concur with mine  (bit odd from someone who also states people are entitled to an opinion??)

 

Four or five of you can stamp your feet as much as you like .................. not getting you very far is it??

As for "rights" you should realise that your ONLY given right in this matter is:-  pay your admission money watch speedway (in safety) and go home........ The End.     (Of course you also have the right not pay and not attend?).

If i'm honest, I suppose it's probably this "I've got rights" issue (not just speedway but across the board) that winds me up most (possibly a throwback from my career days when people threw that in my face on a regular basis...... only to be shown otherwise) ....... point being if you've got all these rights why not enforce them??

The bottom line is that "Premiership" (by name only) Speedway is finally done for in the UK (writing has beeen on the wall for a few years now) ........ Poland completely and utterly rule the speedway roost now and top riders will certainly want to look after the goose that lays the golden egg (who can blame them).  If things go the way they appear to be going, 2024 will be one (not so big) championship level league for riders that are up and coming, those that will never make the big time and also those big names whose best years are long behind them! (apologies in advance for stating the obvious ....... I believe that most punters are already aware of this).

Without fans there's no club any 'owner' is a custodian if they're not running it well they should move on 

[cowboy cookie returns?]

53 minutes ago, Flappy said:

Without fans there's no club any 'owner' is a custodian if they're not running it well they should move on 

Kind of agree, however as owner you have the right to stay or sell up. Normally in order for the owner to sell someone has to make an offer that the owner is willing to accept.

The big issue for Peterborough speedway is currently as things stand come October the club is worthless as they have no home. Who in their right mind is going to buy out chapman?

as crap as it is just enjoy the time you have

[Daniel Smith]

2 hours ago, DizzAssStar said:

Tbh, I've no major life issues (that i'm aware of) ..... but it does make me laugh looking in at a bunch of mature adults working themselves into a frenzy over issues that they have no control and in which they have no say.   It was actually your earlier post that triggered my reaction and you pretty much make the same point above eg....... go away (polite version) happy clappers your opinion don't count as it doesn't concur with mine  (bit odd from someone who also states people are entitled to an opinion??)

 

Four or five of you can stamp your feet as much as you like .................. not getting you very far is it??

As for "rights" you should realise that your ONLY given right in this matter is:-  pay your admission money watch speedway (in safety) and go home........ The End.     (Of course you also have the right not pay and not attend?).

If i'm honest, I suppose it's probably this "I've got rights" issue (not just speedway but across the board) that winds me up most (possibly a throwback from my career days when people threw that in my face on a regular basis...... only to be shown otherwise) ....... point being if you've got all these rights why not enforce them??

The bottom line is that "Premiership" (by name only) Speedway is finally done for in the UK (writing has beeen on the wall for a few years now) ........ Poland completely and utterly rule the speedway roost now and top riders will certainly want to look after the goose that lays the golden egg (who can blame them).  If things go the way they appear to be going, 2024 will be one (not so big) championship level league for riders that are up and coming, those that will never make the big time and also those big names whose best years are long behind them! (apologies in advance for stating the obvious ....... I believe that most punters are already aware of this).

For someone who says they've got more important things to worry about than moaning, sure as hell is doing a lot of moaning 

[Mick Bratley]

1 hour ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

Kind of agree, however as owner you have the right to stay or sell up. Normally in order for the owner to sell someone has to make an offer that the owner is willing to accept.

The big issue for Peterborough speedway is currently as things stand come October the club is worthless as they have no home. Who in their right mind is going to buy out chapman?

as crap as it is just enjoy the time you have

But that isn’t necessarily so. The development plans should make provision for a new facility according to the councils Peterborough local plan (LP30). Whether this happens or not is what we are all waiting to see when the development plans are published on the councils planning portal. If a new facility is included in some way then the owner has something tangible to sell, if a new facility is not included, then a long drawn out battle will undoubtedly commence.

[Roger Jacobs]

2 hours ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

Kind of agree, however as owner you have the right to stay or sell up. Normally in order for the owner to sell someone has to make an offer that the owner is willing to accept.

The big issue for Peterborough speedway is currently as things stand come October the club is worthless as they have no home. Who in their right mind is going to buy out chapman?

as crap as it is just enjoy the time you have

Most speedway clubs are worthless.  Those who actually own their own stadium at least have that as an asset - the rest have nothing that would interest any investor.

[Bald Bloke]

2 hours ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

Kind of agree, however as owner you have the right to stay or sell up. Normally in order for the owner to sell someone has to make an offer that the owner is willing to accept.

The big issue for Peterborough speedway is currently as things stand come October the club is worthless as they have no home. Who in their right mind is going to buy out chapman?

as crap as it is just enjoy the time you have

I guess as it stand, it's worth whatever the shale, machinery and air fences are worth.. Maybe £25K ? i dunno. If a new venue has to be built, as Mick Bratley says it might, then the club will be worth a whole lot more with a brand  new venue.

I presume Tomalin wants it now for a case of beer and a pkt of porkies. While Buster want's more in case a new venue has to be provided.  If it is provided and Buster gives it away now, he would loose thousands. Stalemate.

 

[JoeW436]

13 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

I guess as it stand, it's worth whatever the shale, machinery and air fences are worth.. Maybe £25K ? i dunno. If a new venue has to be built, as Mick Bratley says it might, then the club will be worth a whole lot more with a brand  new venue.

I presume Tomalin wants it now for a case of beer and a pkt of porkies. While Buster want's more in case a new venue has to be provided.  If it is provided and Buster gives it away now, he would loose thousands. Stalemate.

 

Agreed last paragraph. MT has either got sick of Buster and lost interest or he’s just biding his time when he can pick it up for nothing at the end of the year…sadly both outcomes are detrimental to on track performances this year, I.e no new no.1 

[chrismorton]

5 hours ago, DizzAssStar said:

Tbh, I've no major life issues (that i'm aware of) ..... but it does make me laugh looking in at a bunch of mature adults working themselves into a frenzy over issues that they have no control and in which they have no say.   It was actually your earlier post that triggered my reaction and you pretty much make the same point above eg....... go away (polite version) happy clappers your opinion don't count as it doesn't concur with mine  (bit odd from someone who also states people are entitled to an opinion??)

 

Four or five of you can stamp your feet as much as you like .................. not getting you very far is it??

As for "rights" you should realise that your ONLY given right in this matter is:-  pay your admission money watch speedway (in safety) and go home........ The End.     (Of course you also have the right not pay and not attend?).

If i'm honest, I suppose it's probably this "I've got rights" issue (not just speedway but across the board) that winds me up most (possibly a throwback from my career days when people threw that in my face on a regular basis...... only to be shown otherwise) ....... point being if you've got all these rights why not enforce them??

The bottom line is that "Premiership" (by name only) Speedway is finally done for in the UK (writing has beeen on the wall for a few years now) ........ Poland completely and utterly rule the speedway roost now and top riders will certainly want to look after the goose that lays the golden egg (who can blame them).  If things go the way they appear to be going, 2024 will be one (not so big) championship level league for riders that are up and coming, those that will never make the big time and also those big names whose best years are long behind them! (apologies in advance for stating the obvious ....... I believe that most punters are already aware of this).

Alright Buster, calm yourself down and go and have a drive in your tractor..

[Crump99]

1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said:

I guess as it stand, it's worth whatever the shale, machinery and air fences are worth.. Maybe £25K ? i dunno. If a new venue has to be built, as Mick Bratley says it might, then the club will be worth a whole lot more with a brand  new venue.

I presume Tomalin wants it now for a case of beer and a pkt of porkies. While Buster want's more in case a new venue has to be provided.  If it is provided and Buster gives it away now, he would loose thousands. Stalemate.

 

Hasn't Chapman said enough times that he wants out? Every time Peterborough has been in this position over the years (when the infrastructure wasn't under threat) we were always told that there isn't a queue of buyers (usually one if you're lucky) lining up to take over the club. If Tomalin is interested, and I'm not convinced that he is, then Chapman's options are to at least take something for the pension fund (yes he may lose out a bit but that's far from certain and possibly based on a lengthy fight and pipe dream) or lose the only interest he's likely to get and end up with nothing.

[pleasureboy60]

1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said:

I guess as it stand, it's worth whatever the shale, machinery and air fences are worth.. Maybe £25K ? i dunno. If a new venue has to be built, as Mick Bratley says it might, then the club will be worth a whole lot more with a brand  new venue.

I presume Tomalin wants it now for a case of beer and a pkt of porkies. While Buster want's more in case a new venue has to be provided.  If it is provided and Buster gives it away now, he would loose thousands. Stalemate.

 

Shale? What shale? We've not had shale on the track since Chapman took over. 

Technically its more like grasstrack than speedway at the showground!