Peterborough Panthers 2023

[LagutaRacingFan]

Nicki's Polish team have just got spanked at home. Hopefully they are relegated this year and they end up in financial difficulty, ultimately leading to their liquidation.

[chrismorton]

Just seen we are going R/R at Belle Vue... absolute joke..the club are not bothered so neither am I anymore..

[Mick Bratley]

3 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said:

OK understood  Mick. This is the same situation that Lakeside were in when they lost the use of their track for redevelopment. We still await the new facility that the developers "must" provide to comply with local planning policy in the Thurrock area. 

I wouldn't hold your breath.  :-(  :-(

 

Oh I won’t! But we all live in hope!

[JoeW436]

I try not get to wound up about everything that is wrong with my team atm but it just angers me that the one of few things I enjoy about living in this dead end town was it still had a speedway team to go and watch on a Monday night, it’s just depressing losing that for yet another housing estate which will have absolutely zero benefit for anyone aside from a small brown envelope minority, I wouldn’t be shocked if they went for Ferry Meadows next 

[LagutaRacingFan]

14 minutes ago, JoeW436 said:

I try not get to wound up about everything that is wrong with my team atm but it just angers me that the one of few things I enjoy about living in this dead end town was it still had a speedway team to go and watch on a Monday night, it’s just depressing losing that for yet another housing estate which will have absolutely zero benefit for anyone aside from a small brown envelope minority, I wouldn’t be shocked if they went for Ferry Meadows next 

Peterborough has a wide range of restaurants to satisfy your taste buds.

We are also only 50 minutes away from London Kings Cross.

[Chris116]

2 hours ago, Mick Bratley said:

Oh I won’t! But we all live in hope!

Hope is not far from Manchester and they already have the National Speedway Stadium!

[szkocjasid]

5 hours ago, chrismorton said:

Just seen we are going R/R at Belle Vue... absolute joke..the club are not bothered so neither am I anymore..

Given the last guest Peterborough used was awful, maybe they're giving their own riders a go?

[Bellers101]

5 hours ago, chrismorton said:

Just seen we are going R/R at Belle Vue... absolute joke..the club are not bothered so neither am I anymore..

It should be R/R. The guest facility is out of control.

[mikebv]

5 hours ago, Bellers101 said:

It should be R/R. The guest facility is out of control.

But a fit for purpose R/R facility.. 

Shouldnt have to potentially use both second strings to take a No1's ride..

[arnieg]

3 hours ago, mikebv said:

But a fit for purpose R/R facility.. 

Shouldnt have to potentially use both second strings to take a No1's ride..

At present r/r for no 2 is stronger than r/r for no 1. You get rides for 1,3,4 & 5 as opposed to nos 2,3,4 & 5.  A strange anomaly.

Suggest r/r for no 1 should allow 2 extra rides instead of one.

[mikebv]

21 minutes ago, arnieg said:

At present r/r for no 2 is stronger than r/r for no 1. You get rides for 1,3,4 & 5 as opposed to nos 2,3,4 & 5.  A strange anomaly.

Suggest r/r for no 1 should allow 2 extra rides instead of one.

For me, 

For No1. All the riders can take as many of his rides as the Manager wants. With every rider not allowed to take more than 7 in total. That would mean both HL's could (if the manager wanted), take all the missing riders rides and also do Ht 15..

For riders HL's 3 and 5. The other HL who is available takes two, (leaving him available for H15), and SS's/Reserves takes the other two depending on who the Manager chooses..

For missing SS's 2 and 4. The other SS takes three and one of the reserves takes one. (Or the manager may decide to give the reserves all the rides if they are performing well)..

For 6. The SS above takes two and the seven takes two. (Most teams will swap SS and No6's through the season as they are pretty close average wise at most tracks, so no major advantage, and if there is, you most likely lose it with an RS at No7)..

For 7 missing. The No6 takes two and a No8 takes two.. (Again, you may gain with the No6, but also lose out at No8)..

Plenty of extra rides for the riders which is what so many want, (and is really it appears a purpose of UK Speedway), and a credible offering to the public.. 

But what if another rider got injured? Then some IRR would need adapting like now. Bottom line is 7 man teams could all get injured on the same night given the dangerous nature of what takes place so you cannot plan for every eventuality...

At least every meeting would start with that teams contracted riders, not adhoc ringers..

Edited April 24, 2023 by mikebv

[Bagpuss]

21 minutes ago, mikebv said:

For me, 

For No1. All the riders can take as many of his rides as the Manager wants. With every rider not allowed to take more than 7 in total. That would mean both HL's could (if the manager wanted), take all the missing riders rides and also do Ht 15..

For riders HL's 3 and 5. The other HL who is available takes two, (leaving him available for H15), and SS's/Reserves takes the other two depending on who the Manager chooses..

For missing SS's 2 and 4. The other SS takes three and one of the reserves takes one. (Or the manager may decide to give the reserves all the rides if they are performing well)..

For 6. The SS above takes two and the seven takes two. (Most teams will swap SS and No6's through the season as they are pretty close average wise at most tracks, so no major advantage, and if there is, you most likely lose it with an RS at No7)..

For 7 missing. The No6 takes two and a No8 takes two.. (Again, you may gain with the No6, but also lose out at No8)..

Plenty of extra rides for the riders which is what so many want, (and is really it appears a purpose of UK Speedway), and a credible offering to the public.. 

But what if another rider got injured? Then some IRR would need adapting like now. Bottom line is 7 man teams could all get injured on the same night given the dangerous nature of what takes place so you cannot plan for every eventuality...

At least every meeting would start with that teams contracted riders, not adhoc ringers..

I'd give this post two likes if I could 

[Crump99]

22 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

If Buster reads this forum, I think your lucky he hasn’t turned the lights off already… He is trying to run 2 clubs on a budget, and I presume trying to not loose money in the process.

He's been around long enough to know that it comes with the territory. I'm sure that he's had plenty from Lynn. Peterborough had the Swales laying in to forums, Frost calling out the keyboard warriors many times, including calling some supporters (although he'd dispute that) worthless, and Hans saying that he has better things to do than read & bother about internet forums. Bratters had his moments with forums as well.

Running two clubs on a budget to make up the numbers might have been laudable at the time but even you must see that speedway for the sake of it without ambition or success isn't going to receive high praise and thanks. Yes it's always great to be running but it always goes pear shaped pretty quickly (2021 was a lucky/freak year when everything fell in to place) and that's how it stays.

 

 

[Flappy]

Even tonight if it's true it's Harris guesting now at 1 it's further proof that we don't actually go for the best available. 

[chrismorton]

I'm not going to knock Bomber as he would have been the first name on my teamsheet this season but this Panthers team in general is clearly not competitive so I can't understand why moves haven't been made as it's the owners who will get hit in the pocket when our season is all but over on May 8th..

[DizzAssStar]

22 hours ago, TTT said:

Read the Zagar £100 payment excuse a few times now.

I'll bet if you attempted to employ someone who significantly changed the terms prior to starting you  wouldn't then see it as an "excuse".

Anyway, more to the point who are you gonna balme if your lot go down at BV tonight with there being no RW??  (btw I would genuinely love to see your lot upset the form book tonight although I know it's unlikely the way BV are going!)

[maneacat]

2 hours ago, DizzAssStar said:

I'll bet if you attempted to employ someone who significantly changed the terms prior to starting you  wouldn't then see it as an "excuse".

Anyway, more to the point who are you gonna balme if your lot go down at BV tonight with there being no RW??  (btw I would genuinely love to see your lot upset the form book tonight although I know it's unlikely the way BV are going!)

 Buster obviously!  Lol.  
 

 

[TTT]

Buster kept the Richie Worrall situation under wraps well, Another situation that wouldn't have occurred if we just signed Rohan Tungate.

Tonight's planned line-up before the off probably saw Jack Smith or some other NL rider at No.1 considering we wouldn't be able to run R/R at No.1 and No.4.

Edited April 24, 2023 by TTT

[TTT]

2 hours ago, DizzAssStar said:

I'll bet if you attempted to employ someone who significantly changed the terms prior to starting you  wouldn't then see it as an "excuse".

Anyway, more to the point who are you gonna balme if your lot go down at BV tonight with there being no RW??  (btw I would genuinely love to see your lot upset the form book tonight although I know it's unlikely the way BV are going!)

If I was desperate for a HL then I'd just pay the money purely due to the fact that I wouldn't have a plan B HL on the table.

Nobody because tonight was a guaranteed loss even with a full 1-7. 

Belle Vue and Sheffield are head and shoulders above everyone in this league when lining up with a full 1-7 imo.

[Bald Bloke]

5 hours ago, Crump99 said:

He's been around long enough to know that it comes with the territory. I'm sure that he's had plenty from Lynn. Peterborough had the Swales laying in to forums, Frost calling out the keyboard warriors many times, including calling some supporters (although he'd dispute that) worthless, and Hans saying that he has better things to do than read & bother about internet forums. Bratters had his moments with forums as well.

Running two clubs on a budget to make up the numbers might have been laudable at the time but even you must see that speedway for the sake of it without ambition or success isn't going to receive high praise and thanks. Yes it's always great to be running but it always goes pear shaped pretty quickly (2021 was a lucky/freak year when everything fell in to place) and that's how it stays.

 

 

No one wants Buster to sell the club more than me. I didn’t like it from the start, but at the time he was trying to save a club or the Prem. I don’t for one minute think that Buster is enjoying it right now. Flappy has said that MT still want’s the club. If that is the case I hope they can thrash a deal out between then, that is acceptable to both parties.