Peterborough Panthers 2023

[TTT]

What KL riders have an ACU license?

Buster could easily swap an ACU license rider out of KL and put them into the Panthers 1-7 and then search for a replacement at KL knowing full well that he can target overseas riders for them.

[Bald Bloke]

53 minutes ago, Flappy said:

It's worth nothing. The supporters club gifted the equipment to the club not Buster.  Anything of his by all means he should be paid for.

Then MT could surely buy it now. Buster isn't stupid, he knows how long you have at the Showground, and what the club is worth in this state. It's not worth much, unless it has a future. MT probably won't pay anything until he has a guaranteed site for it. The value of the club goes up if another site is found and Peterborough Panthers continue.

My guess is MT wont buy it until he has a site, which i thought he said he did? Nothing Buster can do if that is the case. I'm sure he don't want/need the crap hes's been getting along with the stress it brings.

[rearingtogo]

2 hours ago, Najjer said:

Yes there would be a ban - Nicki would be deemed to be withholding his services and get a 28 day ban along with a 28 day facility granted to Peterborough. 
 

With regards your second point, this is what pi$$es me off so much with British speedway promotions. Everybody is well aware Nicki has left yet you hear nothing from the club who treat their supporters like muppets. Almost straight away they should have come out and said “Nicki has left and we are working on our options” instead of the silent treatment which makes the whole situation worse. It will be embarrassing tomorrow and have such a worse effect when he isn’t there, especially after banging in 18 points last night in Poland. 

I try not to compare football to speedway but there is no way this sort of situation goes on. You only have to look at the recent scenarios with Chelsea, Spurs and Leicester with their managers. All 3 confirmed a departure right away and said they would be working on replacements and will update in due course. Communication with your fan base is so important nowadays.

Damn well said.

[Flappy]

10 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

Then MT could surely buy it now. Buster isn't stupid, he knows how long you have at the Showground, and what the club is worth in this state. It's not worth much, unless it has a future. MT probably won't pay anything until he has a guaranteed site for it. The value of the club goes up if another site is found and Peterborough Panthers continue.

My guess is MT wont buy it until he has a site, which i thought he said he did? Nothing Buster can do if that is the case. I'm sure he don't want/need the crap hes's been getting along with the stress it brings.

But that depends on what he's selling and why he's asking X amount 

[rearingtogo]

Seems to me there is only room for six clubs in the premiership do to a shortages of class riders. Credit to Leicester on building a team that they have got.Had they had not moved up there would have been no rider shortages and Lynn and Peterborough would have no problems.

[Flappy]

2 minutes ago, rearingtogo said:

Seems to me there is only room for six clubs in the premiership do to a shortages of class riders. Credit to Leicester on building a team that they have got.Had they had not moved up there would have been no rider shortages and Lynn and Peterborough would have no problems.

No Lynn and Peterborough cocked team building up, now what's the common denominator here? 

[Haza]

3 minutes ago, rearingtogo said:

Seems to me there is only room for six clubs in the premiership do to a shortages of class riders. Credit to Leicester on building a team that they have got.Had they had not moved up there would have been no rider shortages and Lynn and Peterborough would have no problems.

That is a very good point 

[Bald Bloke]

5 minutes ago, Flappy said:

But that depends on what he's selling and why he's asking X amount 

That's what i mean. I don't think Buster is asking to much, whatever that is, i don't know. But given he knows the situation you are in, and has been around the block a bit where speedway is concerned, i don't think he would want a fortune.

My guess would be that MT don't want to buy if yet, even for cheap. Not without a new venue. I read he had brought a 26 acre site, but who knows. He's been as quiet as Buster on the situation.

A statement from either on the subject would be nice.

 

[Daniel Smith]

10 minutes ago, Flappy said:

But that depends on what he's selling and why he's asking X amount 

Do you & all fans still want to be the "Peterborough Panthers"?

The price is irrelevant, to remain as the "Panthers" you have to give Buster what he wants. There's no if, buts or maybes. He can maintain that licence for 10yrs if he wishes until it's paid for. 

MT can find a new track after the Showground closes but you cannot be called "Peterborough Panthers". 

Buster can also challenge the opening of a new track while he holds the licence for the town of Peterborough. 

You may have to go outside the City & be something like March Monsters or something. 

 

[Flappy]

There's riders out there willing to ride in this league but certain people refuse to sign them.  

Chris Holder deal agreed

Rohan Tungate willing to ride 

Antonio Lindback willing to ride part of the season

Troy Bachelor 

[Flappy]

Just now, Daniel Smith said:

Do you & all fans still want to be the "Peterborough Panthers"?

The price is irrelevant, to remain as the "Panthers" you have to give Buster what he wants. There's no if, buts or maybes. He can maintain that licence for 10yrs if he wishes until it's paid for. 

MT can find a new track after the Showground closes but you cannot be called "Peterborough Panthers". 

Buster can also challenge the opening of a new track while he holds the licence for the town of Peterborough. 

You may have to go outside the City & be something like March Monsters or something. 

 

And he'd be willing to have that reputation? 

Buster saved panthers at the time but now it's time to go.

[Flappy]

2 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

That's what i mean. I don't think Buster is asking to much, whatever that is, i don't know. But given he knows the situation you are in, and has been around the block a bit where speedway is concerned, i don't think he would want a fortune.

My guess would be that MT don't want to buy if yet, even for cheap. Not without a new venue. I read he had brought a 26 acre site, but who knows. He's been as quiet as Buster on the situation.

A statement from either on the subject would be nice.

 

They have a 26 acre site at Fengate that came from Carl Johnson in a radio interview 

[Daniel Smith]

1 minute ago, Flappy said:

And he'd be willing to have that reputation? 

Buster saved panthers at the time but now it's time to go.

Point the finger at the potential owner then to get his finger out if you want Buster gone. It's really not difficult. 

[Flappy]

Just now, Daniel Smith said:

Point the finger at the potential owner then to get his finger out if you want Buster gone. It's really not difficult. 

I get what you're saying but no businessman is buying a lame duck.  Wonder how much Buster paid for it 

[LisaColette]

1 hour ago, Flappy said:

ACU licence holders but won't be signed because they were silly years ago 

Chris Holder, Troy Bachelor 

Not wanting to ride on a track they think isn't safe, isn't silly. 

[Bald Bloke]

4 minutes ago, Flappy said:

No Lynn and Peterborough cocked team building up, now what's the common denominator here? 

Holder being a complete co*k wasn't Busters fault. And trying to get him in the team was MT's fault, trying to run before he could walk imo. Your 18 point maximum man apparently wont come back after 100 yards on track. If NP had bagged 10-12 points in that meeting no one would want Holder over NP. Buster deserved some credit for getting NP in imho. I bet it's not Buster who has told him not to return.. It will be his Polish club or NP, or a bit of both.

[Flappy]

2 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

Holder being a complete co*k wasn't Busters fault. And trying to get him in the team was MT's fault, trying to run before he could walk imo. Your 18 point maximum man apparently wont come back after 100 yards on track. If NP had bagged 10-12 points in that meeting no one would want Holder over NP. Buster deserved some credit for getting NP in imho. I bet it's not Buster who has told him not to return.. It will be his Polish club or NP, or a bit of both.

They were allowed to build the team they wanted and then had the goalposts moved.

Pedersen and Holder would quite likely have been in the team together 

Edited April 9, 2023 by Flappy

[Flappy]

3 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Not wanting to ride on a track they think isn't safe, isn't silly. 

It's certainly not a reason to pull someone out years down the line 

[Bald Bloke]

14 minutes ago, Flappy said:

There's riders out there willing to ride in this league but certain people refuse to sign them.  

Chris Holder deal agreed ... Buster didn't, the sponsor did it.

Rohan Tungate willing to ride.... No one wants him. He's to expensive.

Antonio Lindback willing to ride part of the season... Might be a goer, but no replacement for NP.

Troy Bachelor ...   . No one wants him, let alone someone he did that to.

 

[mikebv]

2 hours ago, TTT said:

Agree, Shouldn't be down to ITK fans to let other fans know about situations that are happening behind the scenes.

Club communication with it's fan base doesn't come at a cost.

It is because the only professionals in the sport (in the UK) are the riders...

The rest are well intentioned amateurs doing their best to appear professional, but often without the necessary skill set required to carry off the tasks they have been asked to do/volunteered to do..

The professional marketing of the sport as a collective, rather than going it alone at each club in a small way, and the governance of the sport through the use of a credible operating model, is, sadly,  a huge opportunity never taken up by those "well meaning amatuers".

Hence, being insular, working in secret, and deep mistrust is often the reputation earned in the opinion of many of it's current, fanbase, and (probably more importantly),  its ex fanbase, who still follow the sport closely...