SteveLyric2 Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) Having read the last few pages, if it was in most other businesses an employee (or self employed contractor) had been offered a deal, had accepted it and made all arrangements, had been measured for the company uniform and even received his uniform with his name on it - only to then find out that it wasn't going to happen, then for sure I wouldn't blame the person for going public! As for the point about giving away the kevlar design, I would suggest the Insta/FB photo gets more publicity than the exposure from P&P day!! Maybe from some 'fans' on here, its an anti-Aussie thing, but I hope young Ben Cook doesn't get similar treatment! Edited February 21, 2023 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 41 minutes ago, Crump99 said: Given that 2023 looked unlikely to happen at all at one point and 2024 is a pipe dream (If you think that Tomalin is the answer and PCC will be supportive then you may need to revisit that) then I'd enjoy the moment and be a bit more supportive of those putting in the time, effort & money in to give you speedway to watch and attend in the coming season. (just made bratters spit out his coffee ) Yes it's a cock up and has all of the business skill and communication output of a secondary school project but that's speedway, who's surprised? As Peterborough fans we know all too well what happens when you get an owner/promoter who wants to take the sport up a notch and take it in to the real world. Not only Peterborough fans either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Aries said: Nah. Can you imagine if everyone who felt hard done by decided to go on instagram or any kind of social media to slag off whoever it was they were annoyed about, and in turn ruin that club/persons upcoming publicity promotion of their new gear? They’d be carnage. It would literally be happening every day,,,Thankfully that doesn’t happen it’s just Holder being a dick which isn’t surprising is it? There’s 2 sides to every story and this is clearly a case of wires crossed. There seems to be a power struggle going on at Peterborough at the moment than nobody knows the full details of. Holder was never riding in a Buster team, maybe the new sponsor got a little ahead of himself and thought he could do a deal but jumped the gun and has had to backtrack? Hardly crime of the century is it? Holder may feel upset and annoyed sure, but take it on the chin like a man and stop acting like a bellend. Pretty clear you just aren’t a holder fan tbh know plenty of blokes who have been screwed out of a few thousand quid who take matters into their own hands, Would it have been better in your book if he went and paid buster a visit like the good auld days and sorted him out “like a man”?? holder will have invested thousands in equipment only to be dropped at the click of a fingers, tbh given the bad blood of yesteryear wouldn’t even be surprised if buster had gone along with it only to change his mind purposely to screw him over but that’s just conjecture of course. his own personal social media account is the perfect platform for him to warn others who may also work with said club/management in the future of how he’s been screwed, can do and say whatever he likes on there can’t he no official statement in response from pboro management so clearly they’re not bothered about clearing up the mess at all Edited February 21, 2023 by 89buttons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Having read the last few pages, if it was in most other businesses an employee (or self employed contractor) had been offered a deal, had accepted it and made all arrangements, had been measured for the company uniform and even received his uniform with his name on it - only to then find out that it wasn't going to happen, then for sure I wouldn't blame the person for going public! As for the point about giving away the kevlar design, I would suggest the Insta/FB photo gets more publicity than the exposure from P&P day!! Maybe from some 'fans' on here, its an anti-Aussie thing, but I hope young Ben Cook doesn't get similar treatment! Ultimately, if you don't have a sign contract, you should never count your eggs. Holder never signed a contract with Peterborough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, BassoRacingFan said: Ultimately, if you don't have a sign contract, you should never count your eggs. Holder never signed a contract with Peterborough. If you’re an honourable businessman then a verbal contract should be all that’s ever needed, too many people in the world operate with bad faith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, 89buttons said: If you’re an honourable businessman then a verbal contract should be all that’s ever needed, too many people in the world operate with bad faith Verbal contracts are legally enforceable (unless they relate to land/buildings) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Maybe from some 'fans' on here, its an anti-Aussie thing, but I hope young Ben Cook doesn't get similar treatment! I really don't think it is as the vast majority of Aussie speedway riders have and do ride here in a professional manner, the ones who don't are those who have been called out on this thread. If Ben Cook works hard and behaves he'll be fine I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bald Bloke Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Chris said: Chapman needs to p1ss off out the club. Didn't he only buy it because the top league needed a certain amount of clubs when he was chairman? He did his job, now go. Tomalin seems to have the passion and money behind him to move the club forward. Chapman is a dinosaur and the club won't last long if he's in charge for much longer. Can you really see Chapman going to the council and fighting for the future of the club and putting ideas for a new stadium in front of them? How a bloke like this was in charge of the sport sums it up I'm afraid. He owns the club. Why should he p155 off.. If TM would like to buy it for a reasonable price i'm sure a deal will be done. If not he can stay as a sponsor and not get above his station, and Buster remains the owner. Simples.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 Who Says No? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castrolargh Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Chris said: Chapman needs to p1ss off out the club. Didn't he only buy it because the top league needed a certain amount of clubs when he was chairman? He did his job, now go. Tomalin seems to have the passion and money behind him to move the club forward. Chapman is a dinosaur and the club won't last long if he's in charge for much longer. Can you really see Chapman going to the council and fighting for the future of the club and putting ideas for a new stadium in front of them? How a bloke like this was in charge of the sport sums it up I'm afraid. Talk about ungrateful.If Buster hadn't stepped in,chances are you wouldn't have a club to support any more.The public don't know the reasons why any sale hasn't happened because its none of our business .We can only speculate as to why holders tram place has fallen through, probably because the sale of the club hasn't gone ahead,then you only have to look at his response to see that its just as well with Buster still at the helm. Buster might not be everyone's cup of tea but if you count lynn, Leicester Peterborough, belle vue and rumours of a guarantee in ippo's first season back in the top flight as being helped to a greater or lesser degree by him in the last few seasons, there wouldn't be much of a league 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 Chris is a Rye House supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just a short story to take minds off the current situation, i read someone called buster a dinosaur So my only real experience of buster is as follows... Few years ago when he was BSPA chairman and running british speedway i tried to contact him without success to pitch.... a league streaming idea After non responses i emailed him saying i was interested in sponsoring the league I got a call back that day and i managed to pitch the streaming idea He apologised for not getting in touch He said he doesnt really do email He struggles to use his phone And doesn't think streaming will help as fans pay in person to watch speedway Definitely a dinosaur but one who has to his credit done alot of good for the sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted February 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: Just a short story to take minds off the current situation, i read someone called buster a dinosaur So my only real experience of buster is as follows... Few years ago when he was BSPA chairman and running british speedway i tried to contact him without success to pitch.... a league streaming idea After non responses i emailed him saying i was interested in sponsoring the league I got a call back that day and i managed to pitch the streaming idea He apologised for not getting in touch He said he doesnt really do email He struggles to use his phone And doesn't think streaming will help as fans pay in person to watch speedway Definitely a dinosaur but one who has to his credit done alot of good for the sport That's fair but the world moves on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Having read the last few pages, if it was in most other businesses an employee (or self employed contractor) had been offered a deal, had accepted it and made all arrangements, had been measured for the company uniform and even received his uniform with his name on it - only to then find out that it wasn't going to happen, then for sure I wouldn't blame the person for going public! As for the point about giving away the kevlar design, I would suggest the Insta/FB photo gets more publicity than the exposure from P&P day!! Maybe from some 'fans' on here, its an anti-Aussie thing, but I hope young Ben Cook doesn't get similar treatment! Hopefully Ben is only there for this season, then back to Poole, if we move back up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Bagpuss said: only two riders acted like brats in that night in July 2017. from what i saw on the night, there were Poole riders not wanting to continue also but the manager saw a chance to take advantage of the situation and got his team riding 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, stevehone said: from what i saw on the night, there were Poole riders not wanting to continue also but the manager saw a chance to take advantage of the situation and got his team riding Were the Poole riders concerned all Holders mates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 Seems typical of Speedway and the mindset of those in charge that they are content and possibly do not seem to give a stuff that they are turning what could be Panthers last season into an obscene charade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dave Jones said: Not only Peterborough fans either. So true. Nearly put that myself but didn't want to go off on a tangent. So many similarities between Coventry & Peterborough, in that we've both suffered the sublime and ridiculous ends of the promotional merry go round! Edited February 21, 2023 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dave Jones said: Were the Poole riders concerned all Holders mates? Well one of them was his brother! I don't completely blame Chris Holder, I spoke to him at the play offs at Poole and he still vividly remembers his crash at Coventry, like most of us who were there, he said he didn't think he would walk again let alone ride so understandable he had concerns about a slightly dodgy track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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