cowboy cookie returns? Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: If the sale on both sides seemed like a formality then i dont see the issue with Tomalin going ahead and agreeing deals, Buster wouldn't of cared or even known maybe at the time, but for whatever reason the ownership has been delayed, Tomalin has shown his hand and buster doesn't agree, so to me it suggests the sale isn't imminent or buster could have let it happen knowing he was soon out Kevlars are sent to many riders before a contract has beeb signed so they can agree on personal sponsorship placements etc. Its normal to some Well as Tru Plant is no where to be seen I can't see Holder at Ipswich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, TTT said: I think it's this. 1. Holder agreed to ride under Tomalin's ownership where all parties including Buster expected a takeover to be completed. 2. Expected takeover hasn't happened and won't happen before the season starts. 3. Buster knowing he's going to be here at the start of the season for certain has blocked the deal for Holder and hasn't even bothered to inform him because he straight up doesn't like the bloke after the 2017 shambles. 4. In the end either Michael, Carl or Dale have had to be Busters fall guy to make a phone call to Holder to inform him that he's out, Then Holder's got even by releasing the new race suits on Instagram. If that is the case. TM ain't bought it, Holder don't ride. I can't imagine Buster not telling MT that if he ain't bought it then Holder don't ride. Who knows... I just don't like Buster getting the stick when people don't know what happened. Maybe it's just that they don't want to pee MT off as he has the £££. I hope he does buy the club, as it can only benefit both Lynn and Peterborough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 Surely there's got to be a point here where Holder could take out a lawsuit against Chapman? There must be some form of verbal or written agreement between himself and the promotion and unless he has signed for Ipswich, then all of his preparation for the season is going to go to waste. Once again the sport is an absolute shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Star Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, spin king junior said: Surely there's got to be a point here where Holder could take out a lawsuit against Chapman? There must be some form of verbal or written agreement between himself and the promotion and unless he has signed for Ipswich, then all of his preparation for the season is going to go to waste. Once again the sport is an absolute shambles. Welcome to the world of being self employed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted February 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, stevehone said: noone seems to know if Rob Lyon is still manager either Well he was under MT's ownership as he picked the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Bratley Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: Why show them to a rider who hasn't signed a contract for you then? Riders rarely sign a contract it’s pretty much verbal agreements until the start of the season when they get signed and are in the country. And yes I know that’s pretty crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 I did say the silence was deafening a couple of weeks ago so all of this unfolding isn't such a shock to me tbh, I see the Polish press are reporting on the Holder situation now. I'm just worried about potential cracks in our management with everyone not being on the same page as we've got much bigger issues to sort out like the clubs long term future and stuff. The saying no news is good news doesn't apply to us now because it's all a bit too messy now and it's starting to make us look bad in the media. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplepanthernotred Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 My concern going forward is it’s made the club look bad regardless, what effects will this have with signing riders in the long term and immediate future… Regardless of the fact we don’t know the full full story it’s painted a sorry picture on Peterborough speedways behalf. It needs addressing quick. Could seriously jeopardize the future with riders thinking why would I bother going there? If MT takes over then will he carry the can for something that a lot of people are saying is Busters fault… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplepanthernotred Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, TTT said: I did say the silence was deafening a couple of weeks ago so all of this unfolding isn't such a shock to me tbh, I see the Polish press are reporting on the Holder situation now. I'm just worried about potential cracks in our management with everyone not being on the same page as we've got much bigger issues to sort out like the clubs long term future and stuff. The saying no news is good news doesn't apply to us now because it's all a bit too messy now and it's starting to make us look bad in the media. This 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 This line aged well didn't it lol. “I have a terrific relationship with Buster (Keith Chapman – club owner), Dale (Allitt) and Carl, and I’m sure we will work well as one team building a future for the Peterborough Panthers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Falcon1983 said: If the sale on both sides seemed like a formality then i dont see the issue with Tomalin going ahead and agreeing deals, Buster wouldn't of cared or even known maybe at the time, but for whatever reason the ownership has been delayed, Tomalin has shown his hand and buster doesn't agree, so to me it suggests the sale isn't imminent or buster could have let it happen knowing he was soon out Kevlars are sent to many riders before a contract has beeb signed so they can agree on personal sponsorship placements etc. Its normal to some Surely you don't agree on deals unless you are actually the owner.Just because it seemed a formality it hadn't actually happened so he couldn't agree deals imo.It's like most things really in life,you can't make changes unless you own it. Edited February 20, 2023 by tellboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Nicki could well be TM's shinning light and not Busters. If TM went above his station and did agree a deal with Holder behind Busters back (after all TM has a connection with Holder i believe), then Buster has done nothing wrong at all in stopping the deal, and TM is the one who should be getting all the flack for fooking up. IF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 Last 24 hours. Holder taking revenge on Instagram by spoiling the race suits. Riders taking the p155 out of us on Instagram about how close they were to being in. Polish press reporting on how unprofessional we've been over the Holder situation. Social media backlash on all platforms (Buster needs to explain his version of events just to take the heat off of the club) Frustrated fan base that's reached boiling point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 2 hours ago, TTT said: Ben Cook has been left without a mentor now and he doesn't have any fellow Aussie's in the team. Hopefully the Danish quartet will help Ben settle in by making him feel welcome and stuff. Also he knows Basso a bit from 2021 season anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, TTT said: Last 24 hours. Holder taking revenge on Instagram by spoiling the race suits. Riders taking the p155 out of us on Instagram about how close they were to being in. Polish press reporting on how unprofessional we've been over the Holder situation. Social media backlash on all platforms (Buster needs to explain his version of events just to take the heat off of the club) Frustrated fan base that's reached boiling point. You wouldn't blame Nicki P thinking 'forget this ' and not coming over. Not like he needs to ride over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, TTT said: Last 24 hours. Holder taking revenge on Instagram by spoiling the race suits. Riders taking the p155 out of us on Instagram about how close they were to being in. Polish press reporting on how unprofessional we've been over the Holder situation. Social media backlash on all platforms (Buster needs to explain his version of events just to take the heat off of the club) Frustrated fan base that's reached boiling point. That last say sentence has never been heard of in British Speedway..... which is the issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 We should sign Artem Laguta. He should want extra track time surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Bratley Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TTT said: We should sign Artem Laguta. He should want extra track time surely? But, But, But . . . . . you said “It's Pedersen and Andersen for sure.” Edited February 20, 2023 by Mick Bratley 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 Just now, Mick Bratley said: But, But, But you said “It's Pedersen and Andersen for sure.” I'm just saying what I think we should do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 And people wonder why rider dont wanna ride in the uk . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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