Flappy Posted January 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, TTT said: I don't think it's for us that's for sure. I think we're going 2.30 under the limit if Tomalin buys the club because Michael clearly wants Holder in the side, @Gasser90 has stuck with the same 1-7 all winter and it just looks a formality at this point imo. Is Anders Rowe on the RS list? If yes then someone has probably dropped out at another Prem club and they've signed Anders as the replacement. We're not going 2.3 under the limit under MT fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasser90 Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 50 minutes ago, Flappy said: We're not going 2.3 under the limit under MT fact I can’t see how we won’t be. Holder is definitely riding in Prem, I can’t see worrall not having a team place somewhere and Peterborough would have said ages ago if Andersen wasn’t in the plans for next season. Honestly think Ipswich will have a big hitter and hume and we will have holder, worrall and Andersen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted January 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Gasser90 said: I can’t see how we won’t be. Holder is definitely riding in Prem, I can’t see worrall not having a team place somewhere and Peterborough would have said ages ago if Andersen wasn’t in the plans for next season. Honestly think Ipswich will have a big hitter and hume and we will have holder, worrall and Andersen Andersen is in. Holder is in, Worrall isn't confirmed as we want a heat leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) Michael Tomalin has referred to NKI as World Class as well as calling Jenkins the best rising star in the league this winter so going 2.30 under the limit wouldn't even be a shock to me now after those statements tbh considering they're way off the mark. Have to ask ourselves a question here and that's why has Tomalin even opened talks with Richie Worrall if he doesn't want him? Surely if you don't want a rider then you wouldn't even bother opening talks with them? Too me this screams desperation on the clubs behalf and it's relying on a big hitter making themselves available at the eleventh hour, If that doesn't happen then it's going to be Gasser90's team by default imo because we've not been linked with anyone else other than Tungate and he's 100% out apparently due to nobody willing to spanner for him. Nothing gets kept a secret in this day and age because everybody talks so it's unlikely that we've got a surprise name lined up that nobody knows about. We're up against it here imo, Everything is clear now and it's a race against time. The club's hope -> No.1 + Holder & Andersen The club's next best hope -> HL/Tungate + Holder & Andersen The club's default solution if the above doesn't happen -> Holder, Worrall & Andersen Edited January 31, 2023 by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 The last 100 odd pages are the same comments..... Serious case of Deja-Vu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 The last 100 odd pages are the same comments..... Serious case of Deja-Vu 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The last 100 odd pages are the same comments..... Serious case of Deja-Vu The last few years are deja vu..... Ipswich Town are in the third division 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 9 hours ago, Flappy said: Andersen is in. Holder is in, Worrall isn't confirmed as we want a heat leader U cant get them all in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: U cant get them all in... Indeed there's a couple of moving pieces. There's going to be a couple of unhappy riders if panthers and Ipswich get their wheels in line and sign preferred riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Flappy said: Indeed there's a couple of moving pieces. There's going to be a couple of unhappy riders if panthers and Ipswich get their wheels in line and sign preferred riders Lets hope .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 11 hours ago, Gasser90 said: I can’t see how we won’t be. Holder is definitely riding in Prem, I can’t see worrall not having a team place somewhere and Peterborough would have said ages ago if Andersen wasn’t in the plans for next season. Honestly think Ipswich will have a big hitter and hume and we will have holder, worrall and Andersen I remember you saying to me that Tomalin genuinely thinks it's a good side, Being 2.30 under the limit was a very tough sell for anyone to buy into imo. However considering some of the claims that Tomalin has made in recent weeks like 'Young Sensational racers' as well as referring to NKI as World Class and branding Jenkins the best rising star in the league it now makes the unthinkable 2.30 under the limit side actually believable because all of those claims are way off the mark. Who's Tomalin referring to with the 'Young Sensational Racers' claim when Ben Cook and Jordan Jenkins don't even have a years worth of Premiership experience combined, We've got 1 in Ben Basso but Tomalin said Racers and not Racer. World Class is a description you would use for riders like Janowski, Zmarzlik etc. Everyone knows that Leon Flint is the best RS in the league as well (His Championship average is head and shoulders above the rest) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Right,,,, TTT,,, go through it one more time what you think the team will be and why. Your version,,, Flappys version,,, Mr Ts version and Gassers version,,, and don't leave out any details 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Right,,,, TTT,,, go through it one more time what you think the team will be and why. Your version,,, Flappys version,,, Mr Ts version and Gassers version,,, and don't leave out any details Tomalin -> I was never going to go against Tomalin's comments considering he's one of the people who's involved in team building. However he's made some very far fetched statements as of late when referring to club signings so it's worth noting, If NKI is world class and Jenkins is sensational then maybe he does believe that Hans Andersen has more left in the tank and stuff to a point where he could roll back the years again? Gasser -> We've had a lot of riders in and out from week to week (Every linked rider has been doing the Hokey Cokey at some point) but only one account has remained adamant on the same 1-7 all winter, Literally hasn't budget despite any new rumour that does the rounds before getting shot down with immediate effect. We've been heavily linked with 4 riders (Holder, Tungate, Worrall and Andersen) Everyone is in sync regarding Tungate being out due to nobody willing to spanner for him because of his personality so by the process of elimination it leaves Holder, Worrall and Andersen. Riders talk, Mechanics talk, Sponsors talk etc. so the chance of a surprise signing being kept under wraps that nobody knows about is minimal, Not even a big six Premier League football club can keep transfer dealings under wraps and out of the public eye so what chance has a British Speedway club got lol. Flappy -> Some people have doubted him and accused him of throwing Darts but I think he's telling the truth too, We're currently in the process of a takeover and I cant imagine for a second that Buster wants the same 1-7 as Tomalin (Chris Holder and potentially Richie Worrall), Buster went public with his opinion on Chris Holder attitude at KL in 2017 and he replaced him with Josh Auty which is a case of get him out by all means even if I cant get a bang average rider in as a replacement. My personal opinion -> I don't like it at all and I don't want it as I think it's worse than last years side but as it stands things are pointing towards Holder, Worrall and Andersen starting the season unless we can catch a lucky break in the next 5/6 weeks. I'm still hoping that somebody steps up to spanner for Tungate (A situation that's out of the clubs hands) or a couple of EU riders make themselves available at the eleventh hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Would Troy Batchelor spanner for Tungate? Or would the spanner be more likely to become embedded in someone's skull? Edited January 31, 2023 by Hamish McRaker Clarity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) I thought Tungate was quoted as saying he's not doing UK this season?! At least, not until his other fixtures allow him to.....! Edited January 31, 2023 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Tungate did not exactly set world alight in Championship if I recall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasser90 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, TTT said: Tomalin -> I was never going to go against Tomalin's comments considering he's one of the people who's involved in team building. However he's made some very far fetched statements as of late when referring to club signings so it's worth noting, If NKI is world class and Jenkins is sensational then maybe he does believe that Hans Andersen has more left in the tank and stuff to a point where he could roll back the years again? Gasser -> We've had a lot of riders in and out from week to week (Every linked rider has been doing the Hokey Cokey at some point) but only one account has remained adamant on the same 1-7 all winter, Literally hasn't budget despite any new rumour that does the rounds before getting shot down with immediate effect. We've been heavily linked with 4 riders (Holder, Tungate, Worrall and Andersen) Everyone is in sync regarding Tungate being out due to nobody willing to spanner for him because of his personality so by the process of elimination it leaves Holder, Worrall and Andersen. Riders talk, Mechanics talk, Sponsors talk etc. so the chance of a surprise signing being kept under wraps that nobody knows about is minimal, Not even a big six Premier League football club can keep transfer dealings under wraps and out of the public eye so what chance has a British Speedway club got lol. Flappy -> Some people have doubted him and accused him of throwing Darts but I think he's telling the truth too, We're currently in the process of a takeover and I cant imagine for a second that Buster wants the same 1-7 as Tomalin (Chris Holder and potentially Richie Worrall), Buster went public with his opinion on Chris Holder attitude at KL in 2017 and he replaced him with Josh Auty which is a case of get him out by all means even if I cant get a bang average rider in as a replacement. My personal opinion -> I don't like it at all and I don't want it as I think it's worse than last years side but as it stands things are pointing towards Holder, Worrall and Andersen starting the season unless we can catch a lucky break in the next 5/6 weeks. I'm still hoping that somebody steps up to spanner for Tungate (A situation that's out of the clubs hands) or a couple of EU riders make themselves available at the eleventh hour. I think the young sensational riders in MT statements are cook/basso, and like you said he thinks NKI is world class. And I know he loves Andersen so I’m sticking with the team I’ve said all winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Buster needs to finalise the sale and the rest will look after itself. There's a new owner ready to go. Obviously no idea on the actual hold ups etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Gasser90 said: I think the young sensational riders in MT statements are cook/basso, and like you said he thinks NKI is world class. And I know he loves Andersen so I’m sticking with the team I’ve said all winter. He thinks different to us then ....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, wealdstone said: Tungate did not exactly set world alight in Championship if I recall Most recent Championship season was six years ago - GSA over 9 in 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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