Steve Irving Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Call me wolfie said: Deluded Nothing deluded about it! You’re hoping it’s delusion because the ONLY set of fans that want Sayfutdinov here are Ipswich supporters. All this “I really hope he does come cos it’s great for our league but I just can’t see it” is complete b0llocks that most of us can see right through! Whether you or Tinywhatshisface from 6 finger land who continues to stick his fingers in his ears and go blah blah blah and pretend it’s all still rumour with no substance, the fact is that Louis is actively trying to get this deal done. Whether he’s ultimately successful is neither here nor there and won’t prove you or anyone else who maintains he’s “definitely not coming” right. Louis will know more than you on what this deal needs to get over the line, and the fact he’s still actively pursuing it tells you that he believes he can get it done. If it was black and white with little to no chance he would have moved on to someone else, that is currently NOT the case. Edited January 22, 2023 by Steve Irving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, Panthers70 said: I suppose it it depends on your definition of red tape. The Collins English dictionary defines red tape as "official rules and procedures as red tape that seem unnecessary and cause delay."Are you saying that the FIM ban on Sayfutdinov is unnecessary? I would suggest that the bans howing support for the Ukraine (and also our governments viewpoint on Russian sportsmen) could be considered rather more than just red tape. Of course it is if they’re allowing him to ride in Poland!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Steve Irving said: Nothing deluded about it! You’re hoping it’s delusion because the ONLY set of fans that want Sayfutdinov here are Ipswich supporters. All this “I really hope he does come cos it’s great for our league but I just can’t see it” is complete b0llocks that most of us can see right through! Whether you or Tinywhatshisface from 6 finger land who continues to stick his fingers in his ears and go blah blah blah and pretend it’s all still rumour with no substance, the fact is that Louis is actively trying to get this deal done. Whether he’s ultimately successful is neither here nor there and won’t prove you or anyone else who maintains he’s “definitely not coming” right. Louis will know more than you on what this deal needs to get over the line, and the fact he’s still actively pursuing it tells you that he believes he can’t get it done. If it was black and white with little to no chance he would have moved on to someone else, that is currently NOT the case. Believes he can get it done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Baldyman said: Believes he can get it done He does. He knows every single detail, every single obstacle, and yet still believes he can get it done. Old Wolfie knows better though obviously! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Steve Irving said: He does. He knows every single detail, every single obstacle, and yet still believes he can get it done. Old Wolfie knows better though obviously! Yeah,,, I just put that as your phone or computer decided to put can't get it done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, Panthers70 said: I suppose it it depends on your definition of red tape. The Collins English dictionary defines red tape as "official rules and procedures as red tape that seem unnecessary and cause delay." Are you saying that the FIM ban on Sayfutdinov is unnecessary? I would suggest that the bans howing support for the Ukraine (and also our governments viewpoint on Russian sportsmen) could be considered rather more than just red tape. A Polish citizen on a Polish licence..... Should be rather straightforward really so yes definitely red tape by the definition you provided 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Yeah,,, I just put that as your phone or computer decided to put can't get it done Thank you. Edited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers70 Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Steve Irving said: Of course it is if they’re allowing him to ride in Poland!!!! I suggest you read this https://www.fullnoise.com.au/fullnoise-news/fim-suspends-russian-and-belarusian-motorcycle-competitors-and-competitions/ Note this part…. "The FIM Board of Directors unanimously recommends to all Affiliated Members and Continental Unions to apply these measures at the national and continental levels." The situation with him in Poland is slightly different because he is a Polish citizen and rides and a Polish licence. Our government have made it clear that no Russian sportsmen are welcome in this country at the moment, tennis players at Wimbledon, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Panthers70 said: I suggest you read this https://www.fullnoise.com.au/fullnoise-news/fim-suspends-russian-and-belarusian-motorcycle-competitors-and-competitions/ Note this part…. "The FIM Board of Directors unanimously recommends to all Affiliated Members and Continental Unions to apply these measures at the national and continental levels." The situation with him in Poland is slightly different because he is a Polish citizen and rides and a Polish licence. Our government have made it clear that no Russian sportsmen are welcome in this country at the moment, tennis players at Wimbledon, for example. Well you’ve answered your own question really haven’t you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers70 Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: A Polish citizen on a Polish licence..... Should be rather straightforward really so yes definitely red tape by the definition you provided he rode for Russia in the SON in 2018/19/20. He's Russian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Panthers70 said: I suggest you read this https://www.fullnoise.com.au/fullnoise-news/fim-suspends-russian-and-belarusian-motorcycle-competitors-and-competitions/ Note this part…. "The FIM Board of Directors unanimously recommends to all Affiliated Members and Continental Unions to apply these measures at the national and continental levels." The situation with him in Poland is slightly different because he is a Polish citizen and rides and a Polish licence. Our government have made it clear that no Russian sportsmen are welcome in this country at the moment, tennis players at Wimbledon, for example. https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/20/tennis/natela-dzalamidze-wimbledon-nationality-change-spt-intl/index.html So citing this example from Wimbledon there should be no problem (other than the little matter of the Home Office and visa red tape) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers70 Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Steve Irving said: Well you’ve answered your own question really haven’t you? Yes, our government will never let him ride over based on their stance in other sports. Louis is deluded if he thinks any different 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Panthers70 said: I suggest you read this https://www.fullnoise.com.au/fullnoise-news/fim-suspends-russian-and-belarusian-motorcycle-competitors-and-competitions/ Note this part…. "The FIM Board of Directors unanimously recommends to all Affiliated Members and Continental Unions to apply these measures at the national and continental levels." The situation with him in Poland is slightly different because he is a Polish citizen and rides and a Polish licence. Our government have made it clear that no Russian sportsmen are welcome in this country at the moment, tennis players at Wimbledon, for example. And Wimbledon have been fined multi millions by their world governing body , ranking points were removed from the tournament and potential future expulsion is on the agenda should they continue with the stance in 2023..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Panthers70 said: Yes, our government will never let him ride over based on their stance in other sports. Louis is deluded if he thinks any different It’s “red tape”. Dance around it any way you like, it’s red tape. You’re another who is desperate for this not to happen, we get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 Peterborough thread chaps Although maybe this is relevant! Carpy did hint that Panthers were in the mix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers70 Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: And Wimbledon have been fined multi millions by their world governing body , ranking points were removed from the tournament and potential future expulsion is on the agenda should they continue with the stance in 2023..... 1 minute ago, Steve Irving said: It’s “red tape”. Dance around it any way you like, it’s red tape. You’re another who is desperate for this not to happen, we get it. Okay this is my last post on the subject. Yes, Wimbledon was fined because the ITF didn't agree with their stance of banning Russian players. However, the FIM have already banned Russians from their events and no way will the ACU/BSPA go against that knowing our government's views. Steve, you think it's just red tape? We'll have to agree to disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasser90 Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Panthers70 said: Combining what Gasser90 and Flappy have been saying fairly consistently, it seems that six of our riders might be as follows…. Niels-Kristian Iversen 7.59 Chris Holder 7.16 Benjamin Basso 6.81 Ben Cook 4.06 Hans Andersen 4.93 Jordan Jenkins RS .... and that leaves 8.45 for the final rider. Assuming that is correct for the moment I very much doubt whether either Worrall or Tungate is the missing rider as that would leave us to far under the limit to make any sense. Much more likely to be either Rasmus Jensen or someone who hasn't raced over here so far, coming in on an 8.00 assessed average. Rasmus doesn’t want to ride in the uk, pboro tired him months ago, I think the team will be NKI,Andersen,basso,worrall,holder,cook and jenkins. I know it’s under the limit but I think tomalin genuinely believes it’s a fantastic team that will challenge for the title. And if he’s got it in his head that it’s a good team of course all of his press and tweets are going to mimic that, we tried jensen, dudek,Bjerre, Thomson, lindgren, lindback, MJJ, woffinden, and loads of other young poles but they said no. Mainly due to the cost of having a UK set up and all the flights etc, most would rather have 1 said if bikes on the continent and race Poland/Sweden Denmark, nicki P said he will gladly ride in the uk for pboro or Ipswich but he wants nearly 4k a meeting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: He's not short on money... Neither was Frost and where did that get us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 We've got no excuse not to sign Nicki P then tbh. Nicki P Andersen Basso R. Worrall / Tungate NKI B. Cook Jenkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Gasser90 said: Rasmus doesn’t want to ride in the uk, pboro tired him months ago, I think the team will be NKI,Andersen,basso,worrall,holder,cook and jenkins. I know it’s under the limit but I think tomalin genuinely believes it’s a fantastic team that will challenge for the title. And if he’s got it in his head that it’s a good team of course all of his press and tweets are going to mimic that, we tried jensen, dudek,Bjerre, Thomson, lindgren, lindback, MJJ, woffinden, and loads of other young poles but they said no. Mainly due to the cost of having a UK set up and all the flights etc, most would rather have 1 said if bikes on the continent and race Poland/Sweden Denmark, nicki P said he will gladly ride in the uk for pboro or Ipswich but he wants nearly 4k a meeting Yeah your right ...he may think its a fab team .but is it ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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