Peterborough Panthers 2023

[TTT]

47 minutes ago, scoobydoo said:

That team will put far to much pressure on Basso especially away when Tungate goes missing , hes still got to learn to deal with the pressures of being a heat leader he needs to be paired with an experienced heat leader to aide his progress further  , his scores when returning to Poole to ride for Glasgow as an example showed he at present lacks the experience of dealing with pressure situations.but he will progress more IMO if hes protected in his development.

 

 

I'd put Basso at 2 for that reason.

[TTT]

With Hans I don't think it helped him riding for Plymouth last year because the place is very technical and that may have contributed to the significant drop off on the big tracks.

Not as good as he once was obviously but he'll be at 6 after the first set of GSA's imo and if he can just bring out some of his old self then we should be challenging for honours, If he struggles at 6 after the first set of GSA's then we can make an early team change before the second set gets released.

Edited January 10, 2023 by TTT

[Wolfie456]

2 hours ago, BassoRacingFan said:

I won't be attending if this is the team.

Close the door on your way out then.

[scoobydoo]

2 hours ago, Flappy said:

It may be better placing Basso at 2 and Andersen 4

But Andersen and Tungate away as a pairing would be a nightmare and Heat 14s with Hans as well

Disappointing if thats the team 

[Arch Stanton]

11 minutes ago, scoobydoo said:

But Andersen and Tungate away as a pairing would be a nightmare and Heat 14s with Hans as well

Disappointing if thats the team 

Worrall was definitely in at Peterborough so I wonder what changed? No idea why you’d suddenly take him out and replace him with Andersen, especially when there was no need to average wise. Very strange if true. 

Edited January 10, 2023 by Arch Stanton

[TTT]

14 minutes ago, scoobydoo said:

But Andersen and Tungate away as a pairing would be a nightmare and Heat 14s with Hans as well

Disappointing if thats the team 

This is how I would line-up away from home (1-5 only)

ON A TECHNICAL TRACK

1. NKI

2. Tungate (Struggles around technical tracks, NKI can ride any track so he can cover Tungate to some degree)

3. Basso (Allow Basso to be partnered with an experienced rider away from Home to ease the pressure)

4. Andersen (Still very strong around the technical tracks so I'm confident he'd do a better job than Tungate around IPS, LEI & WOL)

5. C. Holder

ON A BIG FAST TRACK

1. NKI

2. Basso (Ease the pressure on him away from Home when possible by allowing Ben to form a partnership with an experienced HL)

3. C. Holder

4. Andersen (C. Holder can carry Andersen on the big away tracks)

5. Tungate (Big track rider so he'll be alright @ No.5 around tracks like BV, KL & Sheffield)

[TTT]

20 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

Worrall was definitely in at Peterborough so I wonder what changed? No idea why you’d suddenly take him out and replace him with Andersen, especially when there was no need to average wise. Very strange if true. 

My guess.

Emil deal fell through, Chris Louis offered Worrall more money at the eleventh hour out of desperation and Peterborough weren't willing to pay over the odds for him so we've settled for Hans instead.

[JoeW436]

it’s interesting that some riders don’t seem to lose much speed if any as they get older yet in hans’ case last year he really struggled. I know reactions slow etc but why is that? Hopefully Hans can regain some form but it seems once that slide in form comes it’s a struggle to stop

[cowboy cookie returns?]

5 minutes ago, TTT said:

My guess.

Emil deal fell through, Chris Louis offered Worrall more money at the eleventh hour out of desperation and Peterborough weren't willing to pay over the odds for him so we've settled for Hans instead.

If the Emil deal has fell through, it was always going to be a tough one to get over the line with all the red tape, although once it was discovered he couldn't play golf that was it! 

[Mike0310]

I saw Andersen every meeting he rode for Plymouth last year at home and it was such a shame seeing age catch up with such a great rider he should retire a bloke like that and people would be happy to see him at reserve quite early in the season this is an ex GP rider he should retire and let people have memories of what a great rider he once was in a way I wish he didn’t ride for Plymouth last year as it took away some of the good memories I had a few years ago when I watched him.

[TINYS]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

My guess.

Emil deal fell through, Chris Louis offered Worrall more money at the eleventh hour out of desperation and Peterborough weren't willing to pay over the odds for him so we've settled for Hans instead.

What Emil deal just rumours i think.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

My guess.

Emil deal fell through, Chris Louis offered Worrall more money at the eleventh hour out of desperation and Peterborough weren't willing to pay over the odds for him so we've settled for Hans instead.

Keep guessing.....

[Flappy]

50 minutes ago, Mike0310 said:

I saw Andersen every meeting he rode for Plymouth last year at home and it was such a shame seeing age catch up with such a great rider he should retire a bloke like that and people would be happy to see him at reserve quite early in the season this is an ex GP rider he should retire and let people have memories of what a great rider he once was in a way I wish he didn’t ride for Plymouth last year as it took away some of the good memories I had a few years ago when I watched him.

Too many bangs to the head. 

Panthers legend but he's finished 

Edited January 10, 2023 by Flappy

[szkocjasid]

5 hours ago, Flappy said:

Hans will be at reserve very quickly 

Can't see that happening tbh. With rolling averages going back to 20 matches, it would take a while for Andersen's average to drop, I'd also say Cook could average about 4.7/4.8 (below Hans current ave).

[szkocjasid]

5 hours ago, scoobydoo said:

Batch instead of Cook would make Peterborough even weaker ,Cook at reserve could produce the same results as Basso last season

Cook has more scoring potential and a better attitude  than Batch as you will soon find out when the dorset mafia find out what your saying about a pie rats rider you'll be sorry 

Batchelor is better than Cook at the moment, so would strengthen Peterborough. I'm the future I'm sure Cook will improve but I'm not sure he'd overtake Batchelor in 2023.

[Sully]

27 minutes ago, Flappy said:

Too many bangs to the head. 

Panthers legend but he's finished 

I think that’s a bit harsh. Clearly a pale shadow of the rider he once was but it’s still in there. Away performances at Ipswich and Lynn last year showed he can still do it, and he got 10? last home meeting against Belle Vue? Not suggesting he will be much better next year but my heart says give him a farewell year at the showground and he could probably still average 5.5-6.0 if he can stay clear of injuries. 

[Panthers99]

15 minutes ago, Sully said:

I think that’s a bit harsh. Clearly a pale shadow of the rider he once was but it’s still in there. Away performances at Ipswich and Lynn last year showed he can still do it, and he got 10? last home meeting against Belle Vue? Not suggesting he will be much better next year but my heart says give him a farewell year at the showground and he could probably still average 5.5-6.0 if he can stay clear of injuries. 

I can't see Hans maintaining his average in fairness. Teams have improved, also his own team would have improved so where will he score the points? 

[Flappy]

27 minutes ago, Sully said:

I think that’s a bit harsh. Clearly a pale shadow of the rider he once was but it’s still in there. Away performances at Ipswich and Lynn last year showed he can still do it, and he got 10? last home meeting against Belle Vue? Not suggesting he will be much better next year but my heart says give him a farewell year at the showground and he could probably still average 5.5-6.0 if he can stay clear of injuries. 

3 race wins at the showground and 4 away last season tells the story. 

I get the impression he still thinks he can do it and I sincerely hope he can but the evidence suggests otherwise.

As for a farewell year, only if he's good enough, let's not forget we're going to be under the points limit to for him in when there's better riders available. 

[JoeW436]

Just now, Flappy said:

3 race wins at the showground and 4 away last season tells the story. 

I get the impression he still thinks he can do it and I sincerely hope he can but the evidence suggests otherwise.

As for a farewell year, only if he's good enough, let's not forget we're going to be under the points limit to for him in when there's better riders available. 

This.

 

As much as he might be a club legend looking at the line ups of other sides so far we aren’t in a position to have a rider in the side purely based on nostalgia. I think every panthers supporter does not want a repeat of last year that’s for sure.

[Flappy]

46 minutes ago, JoeW436 said:

This.

 

As much as he might be a club legend looking at the line ups of other sides so far we aren’t in a position to have a rider in the side purely based on nostalgia. I think every panthers supporter does not want a repeat of last year that’s for sure.

For me there's riders in the championship who could do a decent job in the Andersen position, Jonas Knudsen, Marcin Nowak, Kye Thomson, Jye Etheridge, Troy Batchelor all could do a decent job and improve their start average. 

 

Edited January 10, 2023 by Flappy