scoobydoo Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 R.I.P Anne Jackson Sad to hear of the passing of Anne , She was a very likeable lady with a very big heart, she helped so many riders from Boston and Peterborough over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickyag Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 10 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: R.I.P Anne Jackson Sad to hear of the passing of Anne , She was a very likeable lady with a very big heart, she helped so many riders from Boston and Peterborough over the years. Very sad to hear the passing of Anne, lovely lady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleJ Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 52 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: R.I.P Anne Jackson Sad to hear of the passing of Anne , She was a very likeable lady with a very big heart, she helped so many riders from Boston and Peterborough over the years. Thanks for sharing, that’s really sad news. Anne was a lovely lady, we got to know her when she ran the organisation of Ian Barney’s testimonial year stuff back in the late 80’s RIP Anne xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Bratley Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 That is sad news. No one, and I mean no one, got by Anne on the gate if they weren’t supposed to. They don’t make ‘em like her anymore. RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitch Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 When would the deadline be for the Consortium, Buster, & AEPG etc to have come to some sort of agreement to allow time for the Panthers to return to the Showground for the 2025 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, Pitch said: When would the deadline be for the Consortium, Buster, & AEPG etc to have come to some sort of agreement to allow time for the Panthers to return to the Showground for the 2025 season. I think you have to be registered to race by January 1st if I remember correctly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 1 hour ago, Pitch said: When would the deadline be for the Consortium, Buster, & AEPG etc to have come to some sort of agreement to allow time for the Panthers to return to the Showground for the 2025 season. You need to declare your intention to run at the AGM so November usually 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 (edited) On 7/29/2024 at 11:31 AM, Pitch said: When would the deadline be for the Consortium, Buster, & AEPG etc to have come to some sort of agreement to allow time for the Panthers to return to the Showground for the 2025 season. Given that AEPG have totally vandalised the operational speedway circuit/stadium handed over to them in Oct 2023, then that agreement would have to be in place now. There would need to be serious work ongoing now to rectify the damage (track, lights, pits, fence, electrics, stand etc). Where is the money coming from for that lot? With only 12 weeks of British Summer Time left it's still stalemate waiting for Butterfield to blink first, which he shows no signs of doing as he builds his case behind the scenes. Unless the the consortium is working on their pulling a rabbit out of the hat trick then you can forget 2025. You might see Peterborough Speedway of some sort at some future point if people stay interested but it's going to be a long slog! Edited July 30 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 59 minutes ago, Crump99 said: Given that AEPG have totally vandalised the operational speedway circuit/stadium handed over to them in Oct 2023, then that agreement would have to be in place now. There would need to be serious work ongoing now to rectify the damage (track, lights, pits, fence, electrics, stand etc). Where is the money coming from for that lot? With only 12 weeks of British Summer Time left it's still stalemate waiting for Butterfield to blink first, which he shows no signs of doing as he builds his case behind the scenes. Unless the the consortium is working on their pulling a rabbit out of the hat trick then you can forget 2025. You might see Peterborough Speedway of some sort at some future point if people stay interested but it's going to be a long slog! Panthers could surely still return in 2025 at the Showground, initially in Championship say, as a weekend operation with the basics of a track - a bit like Workington, to start with. Then build upwards from there...........? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 4 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Panthers could surely still return in 2025 at the Showground, initially in Championship say, as a weekend operation with the basics of a track - a bit like Workington, to start with. Then build upwards from there...........? Whilst aepg are in charge that unfortunately will not happen they don’t want a sitting tenant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 (edited) 5 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Panthers could surely still return in 2025 at the Showground, initially in Championship say, as a weekend operation with the basics of a track - a bit like Workington, to start with. Then build upwards from there...........? AEPG want/wanted the site clear of commercial operations & they want Peterborough Speedway gone (as it has for 2024) and forgotten about so that they can argue that they've met at least one element of LP30 in the Peterborough Local Plan (2016-2036 Adopted 24 July 2019) before this all goes to the Peterborough City Council’s Planning Committee: LP30 k. The facility is demonstrably no longer fit for purpose and the site is not viable to be redeveloped for a new community facility; or - (Sport England acknowledged that Panthers not running has complicated the issue). l. The service provided by the facility is met by alternative provision that exists within reasonable proximity: what is deemed as reasonable proximity will depend on the nature of the facility and its associated catchment area - Funnily enough AEPG's commissioned site reports provider (Kings Lynn based) suggests that Panthers owner's preferred operation provides an equal customer experience to the EoES and the Panthers faithful can go there If Panthers were to return in 2025 then the AEPG plans are toast and I can't see them doing a re-write? Butterfield has 100,000 people supporting his unwanted vision! Edited July 30 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 (edited) The new government's pledge to build more houses over the next few years and the fact it seems there going to be putting even more pressure on all councils around the country to provide the necessary land to fulfill there part of the required numbers must put even more added doubts over the showground land , PCC may see the showground as an easy solution to them providing land within the Peterborough area , will the PCC just make AEPGs plans easier to approve or will they not be presssured into what could be the easy option. Edited July 31 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Bratley Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 The track could be returned to an ‘as was’ state in five weeks, there are people standing by who would do this. AEPG are not willing to sit round a table with anyone to discuss Peterborough Speedway’s future despite what the Peterborough Local Plan and specifically policies LP30/36 state or the National Planning Policy Framework. I have said all along that this is a watershed moment for Peterborough City Council and its planning department, the outcome of the planning applications will set the direction of travel for the city’s future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Bratley Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 On 7/30/2024 at 11:55 PM, scoobydoo said: The new government's pledge to build more houses over the next few years and the fact it seems there going to be putting even more pressure on all councils around the country to provide the necessary land to fulfill there part of the required numbers must put even more added doubts over the showground land , PCC may see the showground as an easy solution to them providing land within the Peterborough area , will the PCC just make AEPGs plans easier to approve or will they not be presssured into what could be the easy option. Peterborough is way above the national criteria requiring the number of houses to be built per year currently. It’s all very well building affordable houses but affordable houses are no longer affordable for a high percentage of people who are the target buyers, even in Peterborough which is supposedly cheaper than a lot of parts of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 3 hours ago, Mick Bratley said: Peterborough is way above the national criteria requiring the number of houses to be built per year currently. It’s all very well building affordable houses but affordable houses are no longer affordable for a high percentage of people who are the target buyers, even in Peterborough which is supposedly cheaper than a lot of parts of the country. Agreed. Plus, all the people who own more than one house keep prices rising and affect the supply/demand ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNutter Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 There are some paradoxes created by the differences between house spaces approved in plans and houses built. Big developments up the number of spaces available to be built but reality kicks in when it comes to buillding and big developers tend not start buildings unles they are sold first. This modus operandi means that small developments tend to be sold much more quickly once approved. The government is actually more interested in houses completed because you cannot live in an empty approved space or a part-built one. Currently a 1000 house development would take upwards of over 10-15 years to be finished and I wonder if whoever takes a site like this can always afford such a slow income. And I would expect this government to look at removing planning approval if houses are not built quickly. This is not over by any means yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted August 3 Author Report Share Posted August 3 I feel panthers have to run in some form next season to keep the interest up. The longer this goes on the easier it'll get for AEPG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 (edited) On 8/3/2024 at 11:41 AM, Flappy said: I feel panthers have to run in some form next season to keep the interest up. The longer this goes on the easier it'll get for AEPG What does some form mean? Any Panthers operation away from the EoES will just be the cherry on top for AEPG and nobody is going to put right the wreckage of the EoES for a short lease (even if Butterfield sees the light that he shows no interest in opening his eyes to). AEPG can't rewrite history or the planning process, despite the Labour government, and enough people are staying, and will stay interested regardless, to make it uncomfortable for them. Edited August 4 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 On 8/2/2024 at 9:27 AM, Mick Bratley said: Peterborough is way above the national criteria requiring the number of houses to be built per year currently. It’s all very well building affordable houses but affordable houses are no longer affordable for a high percentage of people who are the target buyers, even in Peterborough which is supposedly cheaper than a lot of parts of the country. Interesting piece in the ET today (Aug 9) about 100 new shared ownership houses (sounds like a dogs dinner?) at something called Haddon Abbott, for Hackney overspill I assume? More importantly it mentions the wider Great Haddon development which is expected to provide 5,350 homes, 9,000 jobs, four schools, three shopping centres and sports facilities. Makes Butterfield's AEPG vision look like an afterthought? It also challenges his claim that Peterborough is crying out for such a development at the EoES. In the unlikely event that it ever gets off the ground, in a decade's time there will be plenty of alternatives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 (edited) AEPG plans to be considered by councillors on October 15 If you objected to the East of England development then I guess that you've received an e-mail from planningcontrol@peterborough.gov.uk This has hit the local press today https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/people/30-days-more-consultation-as-decision-day-looms-for-east-of-england-showground-development-plans-4772020 Overall they reportedly have changed nothing of significance and Peterborough Speedway is gone, can permanently expire within the city of Peterborough and take its small selfish cohort of speedway fans with it. If you objected then I suggest that you quickly reiterate your position to counter the letters from friends and family that Butterfield is allegedly going to produce. If you haven't objected then give it a go and bump up the numbers. It's simple and painless: Planning Application 23/00412/OUT is where Peterborough Speedway sits. Planning Application 23/00400/OUT is the unagreed part of the development outside of the local plan which means that with the addition of this scheme AEPG can't meet the EoES part of their obligations within LP36 & LP30 Just a reminder of the objections from BSP Ltd/SCB: Sept 2023 http://plandocs.peterborough.gov.uk/PublicDocuments/01321287.pdf May 2024 http://plandocs.peterborough.gov.uk/PublicDocuments/01342678.pdf Edited September 6 by Crump99 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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