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1 hour ago, Crump99 said:

I wouldn't believe a word of it and negotiations along with suitable financial arrangements can fix most things.

Under pressure AEPG couldn't get their prepared statement out quick enough on Sunday and that said: 

What will happen to the track at the end of the 2023 season?

AEPG and the current owners of the Panthers are in conversation about the removal of any elements owned by Peterborough Speedway and Keith Chapman. There is a good relationship and a timeline which suits both parties will be agreed. At no time have AEPG given a deadline for this activity to take place.

And after yesterday's glimmer of hope they've similarly rushed out their counter story which I'm sure raises more questions than it answers.

 

That’s a rehash of the article / statement published a few days ago in the Cambridge news so I wouldn’t say a direct response to the article in the Peterborough Tel yesterday. 

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12 minutes ago, Sully said:

That’s a rehash of the article / statement published a few days ago in the Cambridge news so I wouldn’t say a direct response to the article in the Peterborough Tel yesterday. 

ok ta, didn't read that and I doubt that most locals did either. It will have more impact in Peterborough via the ET though and still needs challenging. As you say, it is a rehash of what they've said before so I'm sure it can be pulled apart as per usual.

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On 10/8/2023 at 11:21 AM, scoobydoo said:

Read on the FB page that the supporters club were covering the cost of entry for any ex Peterborough riders that having been invited to attend had said yes , there was another post which suggested both Andy Fisher and Mick Spinks wanted to attend but as they hadn't been invited , they could attend but pay at the turnstile to get in , there was no indication of how many invites were sent out and how many had said yes/no , 

The supporters club cannot be blamed at all for this as they made the gesture to riders no doubt on the back of the managements refusal to pay for those who wanted to attend as ex panthers riders.

 

Over 53 years 300 plus riders have ridden for the Panthers, if these riders particularly wanted to go nothing was stopping them from attending.

As for those who wanted to go but didn’t get invited, really, is it that important to for ex riders to think they need to get invited for free to consider attending the very last match at the Showground.

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42 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said:

 is it that important to for ex riders to think they need to get invited for free to consider attending the very last match at the Showground.

Yes

It's about saying goodbye respectfully

Both for the former riders and supporters.

One of the highlights of Smallmead's 'End of an Era' meeting for me was talking to John Hammond. 

 

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2 hours ago, bigcatdiary said:

Over 53 years 300 plus riders have ridden for the Panthers, if these riders particularly wanted to go nothing was stopping them from attending.

As for those who wanted to go but didn’t get invited, really, is it that important to for ex riders to think they need to get invited for free to consider attending the very last match at the Showground.

It would have been nice for a farewell meeting for some of the club legends to have been paraded to the crowd to make an event of it. All it would have required was an invite, that's all

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1 hour ago, Sully said:

Interesting that the last part says  (my highlight)

'AEPG has previously said that the DHL car storage operation is a means for the venue to secure an income until two outline planning applications to build 1,500 homes and a leisure village on the Showground, which is owned by the East of England Agricultural Society, are considered by the council.

However, officers will tell councillors next week that a decision is not expected to be made on these applications in the near future.'

With any luck AEPG will run out of money before the applications are determined

I've queried with the Council why it has put a statement from AEPG about the loss of speedway on it's website as though it is fact, without clarifying that this does not represent the Council's view

AEPG Statement regarding Peterborough Panthers use of East of England Showground - Peterborough City Council

 

Update: quick response from the Council as follows

 

From: Communications <Communications@peterborough.gov.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 1:18 PM
Plng Control Enquiries <planningcontrol@peterborough.gov.uk>
Subject: Re: https://www.peterborough.gov.uk/news/aepg-statement-regarding-peterborough-panthers-use-of-east-of-england-showground

 

Hi xxxx,

 

We added the statement to the PCC website on request of the council's Leader Wayne Fitzgerald, who spoke about this issue during a recent ' Ask the Leader' session.

 

We will add a line to emphasise that this statement is APEG's view and not the councils.

 

Kind regards,

Ken.

 

 

Many thanks,

 

The Communications Team

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3 hours ago, Sully said:

"There have been a total of 152 public responses to the plans with 151 being objections" - if they throw a wobbly at that then AEPG's planning applications are at 1400, most of which are objections, and they think that they'll quickly iron out the issues raised. They'll need an additional planning application to store the steamrollers they'll need to smooth out their cock up!  

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18 minutes ago, Crump99 said:

"There have been a total of 152 public responses to the plans with 151 being objections" - if they throw a wobbly at that then AEPG's planning applications are at 1400, most of which are objections, and they think that they'll quickly iron out the issues raised. They'll need an additional planning application to store the steamrollers they'll need to smooth out their cock up!  

They’ve backed themselves into a corner with their naivety and lack of experience. There is only one way this is going to end for them, they don’t know it yet, but they are a busted flush.

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27 minutes ago, Mick Bratley said:

They’ve backed themselves into a corner with their naivety and lack of experience. There is only one way this is going to end for them, they don’t know it yet, but they are a busted flush.

Butterfield allegedly said: "AEPG believe it is important for the community to be fully involved in the process" - if only that was true then they might not be in their current mess? Involving the community does not mean telling people what you've decided.

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8 hours ago, Sully said:

Cllr Julie Stevenson is worth a follow on Twitter. She’s shining a light on this whole issue on a regular basis and certainly making her feelings known about the panthers plight. 

Just been looking at her posts. Goods support from someone in the right place.

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2 hours ago, Sully said:

This is 100% correct, No BS.

Buster needs to be reasonable for a change by agreeing a quick sale at a reasonable price in order to give the consortium the best chance going forwards, The guy has been a thorn in people's sides for far too long now.

Massive thank you goes out to those who are part of the consortium (You know who you are), Your effort and passion for the club hasn't gone unnoticed.

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2 hours ago, TTT said:

This is 100% correct, No BS.

Buster needs to be reasonable for a change by agreeing a quick sale at a reasonable price in order to give the consortium the best chance going forwards, The guy has been a thorn in people's sides for far too long now.

Massive thank you goes out to those who are part of the consortium (You know who you are), Your effort and passion for the club hasn't gone unnoticed.

I can see some moving of the goalposts regarding the valuation of the club on the horizon already.

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3 hours ago, TTT said:

This is 100% correct, No BS.

Buster needs to be reasonable for a change by agreeing a quick sale at a reasonable price in order to give the consortium the best chance going forwards, The guy has been a thorn in people's sides for far too long now.

Massive thank you goes out to those who are part of the consortium (You know who you are), Your effort and passion for the club hasn't gone unnoticed.

At first glance it looks like the club is worth what  the lights, air fence are worth. Should be an easy straightforward deal on the face of it. But, I did read on here several months ago, that there is something written in a contract( i think) that says that if the stadium was demolished, a new site and amenities would have to be provided? If that is the case, and it does eventually happen, Peterborough speedway will have a safe new stadium, and be worth a lot more money.. 

If this is correct, then unfortunately, the sale might drag on for a while yet?

 

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