Peterborough Panthers 2023

[rusky]

7 hours ago, Mick Bratley said:

Currently Buster has nothing to sell and any potential buyer has nothing to buy, that has been the case all season, even the air fence needs replacing after this season. If a 2-3 year lease could be negotiated then that puts things into a different perspective, Buster could sell (or carry on), a buyer could buy and 2-3 years could be spent securing land and building a new track and facilities which according to the local plan the developers will have to pay for. With the best will in the world, nothing will be built where the track is for a long time. If AEPG would agree to 2-3 years it would get them much positive PR and everyone would (sort of) be happy (except the local residents, of which I am one).  At the moment AEPG are getting pelters and it is only going to get a lot lot worse for them. AEPG say they aren’t bothered by the local outrage, but they definitely are, they are not liking the non stop criticism and watching objections filed every day with not one single positive comment. They have misjudged Peterborough people big time and it’s moving towards a watershed moment for Peterborough City Council.

I think you are right Mick. Air fences don’t come cheap I suspect, and then of course there is the BSPL bond that would need to be paid. Even if Buster was to sell ‘Peterborough Speedway’ for a pittance, the startup costs for any purchaser would run into many, many Thousands I would expect, without even considering signing riders

Edited September 12, 2023 by rusky

[pleasureboy60]

8 hours ago, Crump99 said:

Mick Bratley wouldn't be wasting his time if he didn't know what was going on. He certainly doesn't p*** in the wind.

 

[pleasureboy60]

I would sooner have Mick Bratley fighting my corner rather than Buster Chapman !

[screm]

Cynical I know but you don't think that Buster isn't to fussed about trying to keep Peterborough speedway going as it might just get one or two extra along to his beloved Kings Lynn from Peterborough. 

[cinderfella]

12 minutes ago, screm said:

Cynical I know but you don't think that Buster isn't to fussed about trying to keep Peterborough speedway going as it might just get one or two extra along to his beloved Kings Lynn from Peterborough. 

Yes but surely the lost jncome in having at least 2 less home meetings a year would be greater? 

Edited September 12, 2023 by cinderfella
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[Flappy]

21 minutes ago, screm said:

Cynical I know but you don't think that Buster isn't to fussed about trying to keep Peterborough speedway going as it might just get one or two extra along to his beloved Kings Lynn from Peterborough. 

Or Peterborough paying him rent to ride out of King's Lynn....  .

This whole situation just doesn't sit well and the fight must continue.  We were told many months ago there was nothing we could do as the planning hadn't gone in which was correct from an AEPG/PCC point of view however I would've liked our end to be prepping us and the media for what is now happening 

Edited September 12, 2023 by Flappy

[Mick Bratley]

2 minutes ago, Flappy said:

Or Peterborough paying him rent to ride out of King's Lynn....  .

There is no way in the world Peterborough would race a season at another track outside of the city, that would be financial suicide.

[JoeW436]

45 minutes ago, screm said:

Cynical I know but you don't think that Buster isn't to fussed about trying to keep Peterborough speedway going as it might just get one or two extra along to his beloved Kings Lynn from Peterborough. 

Probably an element of this too, his team have been crap for years but a majority of this Peterborough side and one or two Lynn riders you have a half decent side. They might even scrape into the play offs since there is currently only 5 sides in the league next year.

[cinderfella]

1 minute ago, JoeW436 said:

Probably an element of this too, his team have been crap for years but a majority of this Peterborough side and one or two Lynn riders you have a half decent side. They might even scrape into the play offs since there is currently only 5 sides in the league next year.

Do you honestly believe the PL will run with only 5 teams? 

It would be financial suicide and I doubt any TV company would consider taking on a contract to televise a series of repeats. 

For speedway to survive in the UK the PL and CL have to amalgamate and if that means the loss of GP and other top riders it's a price worth paying imo. 

The fact there would be a shortage of riders given there could be no doubling up could be seen as a positive given it would give younger lads more opporchancities. 

We may initially  have to go backwards to make progress. 

[chrismorton]

8 hours ago, Mick Bratley said:

Currently Buster has nothing to sell and any potential buyer has nothing to buy, that has been the case all season, even the air fence needs replacing after this season. If a 2-3 year lease could be negotiated then that puts things into a different perspective, Buster could sell (or carry on), a buyer could buy and 2-3 years could be spent securing land and building a new track and facilities which according to the local plan the developers will have to pay for. With the best will in the world, nothing will be built where the track is for a long time. If AEPG would agree to 2-3 years it would get them much positive PR and everyone would (sort of) be happy (except the local residents, of which I am one).  At the moment AEPG are getting pelters and it is only going to get a lot lot worse for them. AEPG say they aren’t bothered by the local outrage, but they definitely are, they are not liking the non stop criticism and watching objections filed every day with not one single positive comment. They have misjudged Peterborough people big time and it’s moving towards a watershed moment for Peterborough City Council.

It's a shame our current owner doesn't have the same passion as you and others to help our club survive but we all know where his heart lies. He quickly got bored of his new toy after they had peaked a couple of seasons ago and they were good times tbf. The thing that stands out for me with him though that he seems to have no problems not telling the truth, he is not the brightest and his PR skills are absolutely woeful which was demonstrated last night. Surely the first step is to get him out and get Someone in who wants to take us forward...but how?

Edited September 12, 2023 by chrismorton

[JoeW436]

10 minutes ago, cinderfella said:

Do you honestly believe the PL will run with only 5 teams? 

It would be financial suicide and I doubt any TV company would consider taking on a contract to televise a series of repeats. 

For speedway to survive in the UK the PL and CL have to amalgamate and if that means the loss of GP and other top riders it's a price worth paying imo. 

The fact there would be a shortage of riders given there could be no doubling up could be seen as a positive given it would give younger lads more opporchancities. 

We may initially  have to go backwards to make progress. 

Course it would be financial suicide, but this is the British Speedway governing body we’re talking about, they seem totally oblivious to most things that are going on. I can imagine the conversations come March in that building “oh look, we’ve only got 5 teams registered for the premiership this year, why is that?”

[TTT]

Only person that has given up whilst encouraging others to give up is Buster which pretty much sums him up as a person tbh.

Mick Bratley, Carl Johnson, Michael Tomalin, Ged Rathbone have all fought / currently fighting for the club in their own different ways. 

Keep the objections coming because no planning permission has been granted therefore the club still has a pulse, It's on life support but it's not been pronounced dead therefore we still have something to fight for even though we're facing the most uphill battle yet in regards to the clubs survival.

[Panther1997]

Despite the 18 point win last night, I've never left a meeting feeling so deflated we have the current owner telling us to do nothing, we have no future. We had the current 'major sponsor' wandering round like he owns the place, but no one has ever heard anything from him since the start of the season after building his 'title challenging team'. That went well. He was going to be a promoter and the owner but none of that has come to bare. We have ex owners 'saying' they want to buy the club, but never want to say it publicly. I will keeping supporting any petitions that come out but is it really worth it?

We aren't the first club to be moved out of our home and to never return and we certainly wont be the last. Roll on the last 2 meetings around the best track in the country, but I've never felt so low about the club.

[JoeW436]

7 minutes ago, Panther1997 said:

Despite the 18 point win last night, I've never left a meeting feeling so deflated we have the current owner telling us to do nothing, we have no future. We had the current 'major sponsor' wandering round like he owns the place, but no one has ever heard anything from him since the start of the season after building his 'title challenging team'. That went well. He was going to be a promoter and the owner but none of that has come to bare. We have ex owners 'saying' they want to buy the club, but never want to say it publicly. I will keeping supporting any petitions that come out but is it really worth it?

We aren't the first club to be moved out of our home and to never return and we certainly wont be the last. Roll on the last 2 meetings around the best track in the country, but I've never felt so low about the club.

+1 on this. We’ve had some hammerings at home the last 18 months but I’ve never left a meeting so angry after hearing that interview. The dismissive attitude to those trying to do their up most to keep the club going or at the very least make it difficult for AEPG was disgraceful.

[Pitch]

58 minutes ago, JoeW436 said:

Probably an element of this too, his team have been crap for years but a majority of this Peterborough side and one or two Lynn riders you have a half decent side. They might even scrape into the play offs since there is currently only 5 sides in the league next year.

You'd have to race each team home & away at least three times, even then that's only 12 home league meetings.

[TTT]

Convinced after last night that Buster wants us to close so he can recoup his huge financial losses with the brown envelope hush money because you don't rollover like that and encourage others to do the same if you're someone who wants to the club to survive.

Look at CVS' annoucement at Wolves last week on Eurosport and then compare that with Buster's shambolic display last night, Can easily tell the difference between someone who cares and someone who doesn't.

I wouldn't be surprised if Buster didn't want to accept Ged's offer because the hush money would leave him financially better off than selling the Panthers to Ged at a lower price imo, A move like that would sum the guy up really wouldn't it?

Buster is probably cooking up a manipulative plan as we speak to sign lots of Panthers riders for KL next season in an attempt to reel Panthers fans in that see's them flock to the AFA on a regular basis to line his pockets (I won't be)

Edited September 12, 2023 by TTT

[Pitch]

Hopefully there is enough good will, love and support around Peterborough Panthers Speedway to get something sorted eventually. I mean we have Mick Bratley, GED Rathbone, Michael Tomalin, Carl Johnson, Crendon, a brilliant Supporters Club, and a large fantastic fan base who would love to help in anyway they can.

[cinderfella]

32 minutes ago, Pitch said:

Hopefully there is enough good will, love and support around Peterborough Panthers Speedway to get something sorted eventually. I mean we have Mick Bratley, GED Rathbone, Michael Tomalin, Carl Johnson, Crendon, a brilliant Supporters Club, and a large fantastic fan base who would love to help in anyway they can.

As a neutral I think it really is time the BSPA/SCB stepped in and took action for the good of the sport especially when there is so many different folk interested in keeping Peterborough alive. 

I all honesty Chapman's involvement in speedway over the years has only benefitted him and certainly not the sport as a whole. 

Anyone who can fake a heart attack and waste NHS resources  to give a rider extra time to get to a meeting is the lowest of the low and the SCB should consider doing a due diligence assessment to see if he fit to be a Speedway Promoter. 

[scoobydoo]

1 hour ago, Panther1997 said:

Despite the 18 point win last night, I've never left a meeting feeling so deflated we have the current owner telling us to do nothing, we have no future. We had the current 'major sponsor' wandering round like he owns the place, but no one has ever heard anything from him since the start of the season after building his 'title challenging team'. That went well. He was going to be a promoter and the owner but none of that has come to bare. We have ex owners 'saying' they want to buy the club, but never want to say it publicly. I will keeping supporting any petitions that come out but is it really worth it?

We aren't the first club to be moved out of our home and to never return and we certainly wont be the last. Roll on the last 2 meetings around the best track in the country, but I've never felt so low about the club.

Still think that the truth of the breakdown in MT buying the club will be known at some point ,

Also in hope,   the recent social media posts give you the impression there just maybe further fun and games to come .

[Gasser90]

We keep fighting. There is stuff going on in the background I promise you that, it’s not over yet in my eyes